Prospective 991 GT3 Owners Discussion

[MCSL]

DiscoColin said:

PCCB = no for track, maybe for road if you plan to keep the car for a while or really hate cleaning your wheels.

i disagree. unless you are properly caning the track-circuit (which 99.9% of us aren't, and if you were, you would probably be running Alcons or similar?) then PCCB's are fine. I've had a GT3 off a guy that used it on track and the PCCB's were mint when i bought it. Also bought an ex-PEC car with ceramics, and they too had no wear (only a chip from careless handling/wheel-removal). Too much fear spread on forums re PCCB's and 'track use' IMO.

[DiscoColin]

MCSL said:

DiscoColin said:

PCCB = no for track, maybe for road if you plan to keep the car for a while or really hate cleaning your wheels.

i disagree.

Which is your prerogative. I've been running GT3s for 7 years (tracking them for 6 of those, but only 9-14 per year) and mixing with people who do likewise, which is how my opinion was formed. The problem with PCCB is that eventually everything will wear out, and on a properly driven GT3 that seems to be anywhere between 10 and 20 track days depending upon driver and circuits. After that they cost more than a brand new Ford Focus to replace. No sane person spends upwards of £700 per day on brakes unless they are very, very rich.....

PCCB fans seem more often than not to be people who don't keep the car long enough to hit the cost of replacing them from track activity.

...and yes - I do indeed run Alcons. The above is why.

Edited by DiscoColin on Sunday 19th May 21:35

[gtsralph]

Is the 991 GT3 subject to the new maintenance schedule for 997 centre lock wheels i.e. the safety check after every track use, and new parts after 4,200 and 14,000 track miles?

[sidicks]

gtsralph said:

Is the 991 GT3 subject to the new maintenance schedule for 997 centre lock wheels i.e. the safety check after every track use, and new parts after 4,200 and 14,000 track miles?

Remains to be seen, but no doubt a question that will be asked at the GT3 depositor's day in June / July....


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[HokumPokum]

DiscoColin said:

No sane person spends upwards of £700 per day on brakes unless they are very, very rich.....

Edited by DiscoColin on Sunday 19th May 21:35

Nah.. just like the technology and can afford the replacement cost. nothing to do with sanity.

[DMC2]

I've just been offered a slot for early next year. I promised myself I wouldn't buy one (I don't need or want a track orientated car anymore) but old habits die hard...

[DiscoColin]

gtsralph said:

Is the 991 GT3 subject to the new maintenance schedule for 997 centre lock wheels i.e. the safety check after every track use, and new parts after 4,200 and 14,000 track miles?

Detail geeks will have notice within what has been released so far that they have redesigned them on the 991. However that is no guarantee that there will be no such schedule nor indeed that they will not choose to introduce one (or shorten the component life) at a later date as has been the case with the 997 - even after a number of recalls on the system.

[AndyBrew]

When is the brochure being sent out anybody know?

[tjlees]

mollytherocker said:

tjlees said:

PCCBs are good for road cars since they look good, do not rust and there is no brake dust. For my garage queen its always a fighting battle, which I usually loose with me ending up having to prematurely replace £2.5k worth of corroded disks. No such probs with PCCBs.

For the track, PCCBs do not seem to perform well with wear and potentially have disk cracking problems. Though the performance is is meant to be better re heat retention and dissipation, and obviously less unsprung weight for the track. Personally I always used steels and never really noticed any fading on track.

So ceramics for garage queens, steels for track?

For PCCBs IMHO yes!!

I'm sure for the LMP 2 types, ceramic brakes are the best thing since sliced bread...

[BMCG]

AndyBrew said:

When is the brochure being sent out anybody know?

Supposedly end this month...( German version already posted on eBay)

Edited by BMCG on Monday 20th May 21:27

[Pip1968]

cayman-black said:

Zyp said:

Riviera - one of the best Porsche colours

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/advertgalle...

Funny how they take so long to sell in this colour though.

Bit of a post hi-jack but apart from being a 'marmite' colour (I love it for a track car but I am biased) it has a RS spoiler and bucket seats but no roll cage so it is neither one nor other. I think this why it has taken so long to sell. Was not this also the one with the 'faker' GT3RS decals -???

Pip

[SonnyM]

DiscoColin said:

gtsralph said:

Is the 991 GT3 subject to the new maintenance schedule for 997 centre lock wheels i.e. the safety check after every track use, and new parts after 4,200 and 14,000 track miles?

Detail geeks will have notice within what has been released so far that they have redesigned them on the 991. However that is no guarantee that there will be no such schedule nor indeed that they will not choose to introduce one (or shorten the component life) at a later date as has been the case with the 997 - even after a number of recalls on the system.

IIRC in an interview with Andreas Preuninger he said the 991 GT3 uses the same centre lock as the Cup car, therefore it must follow a regular maintenance schedule following a period of track time.

[DiscoColin]

SonnyM said:

IIRC in an interview with Andreas Preuninger he said the 991 GT3 uses the same centre lock as the Cup car, therefore it must follow a regular maintenance schedule following a period of track time.

It is the hub design from the cup, but not the locking bolt system. The stresses will not be the same anyway though - the road car is appreciably heavier, with much softer spring rates and is not generally going to be wearing slicks.

[sidicks]

Do Porsche offer the GT3 with the 90 litre fuel tank in ANY right hand drive markets?

I don't think this is an option in the UK, but, for long distance driving, it would be a useful option to have, to give a 500 (or so) mile range!!


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[sidicks]

sidicks said:

Do Porsche offer the GT3 with the 90 litre fuel tank in ANY right hand drive markets?

I don't think this is an option in the UK, but, for long distance driving, it would be a useful option to have, to give a 500 (or so) mile range!!


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Anyone??

[DiscoColin]

sidicks said:

Do Porsche offer the GT3 with the 90 litre fuel tank in ANY right hand drive markets?

I don't think this is an option in the UK, but, for long distance driving, it would be a useful option to have, to give a 500 (or so) mile range!!

I don't know about the 991, but in all previous 911s the 90l tank will only physically fit into the LHD car, so thus far the answer is no.

[Macca993]

There is no 90L tank option for RHD cars. I can confirm that as its written in the factory dealer order guide.

Also from factory comes this information on the CL


"991 GT3 Central locking

The central locking on the new 911 GT3 is a completely new development with higher load limits and improved suitability for track use. The new 911 GT3-specific central lock is identified by a more robust wheel hub for a significantly improved camber stability and carrier bolts that are now fixed to the wheel hub (997 GT3 II: fastened to the brake chamber).

The significantly improved connection system is enhanced by larger bearing journals and larger wheel bearings that are now identical to the 911 GT3 Cup racing cars. The central screws have a friction optimised trapezoidal screw thread and a thread runout with reduced notch effect. The new central screws can be recognized visually by the revised ring gear. The dimensions and the basic shape of the central screws have been retained and the teeth re-accented by distinctive spaces between them. The central screws are anodised black on the new 911 GT3 and have a black wheel hub cover with a silver colored “GT3” logo. "

[fastcello]

Having spent an hur in my OPC Guildford I have decided against the Saphire Blue and gone for Rhodium silver:
http://www.gtspirit.com/2013/04/21/shanghai-2013-p...

Think it looks great.

[RSVP911]

fastcello said:

Having spent an hur in my OPC Guildford I have decided against the Saphire Blue and gone for Rhodium silver:
http://www.gtspirit.com/2013/04/21/shanghai-2013-p...

Think it looks great.

I'm really struggling on colour - currently I have a white Turbo and really wanted a change and as such wanted my GT3 in sliver ( as I think Silver 911's are starting to look great again) however , I'm really sorry, but I just don't think the GT3 looks right in Silver (IMHO) as the wheels and vents just blend in too much - Unfortuatly, I think it looks best in white ( as the opposite is true) But I'm sick of white and as such, I really don't know what to do ? It may look better in real life : you know what colour is such a personal thing so please don't be put off by my post - it is interesting though , loads of posts about people struggling on Colour .

[sidicks]

RSVP911 said:

I'm really struggling on colour - currently I have a white Turbo and really wanted a change and as such wanted my GT3 in sliver ( as I think Silver 911's are starting to look great again) however , I'm really sorry, but I just don't think the GT3 looks right in Silver (IMHO) as the wheels and vents just blend in too much - Unfortuatly, I think it looks best in white ( as the opposite is true) But I'm sick of white and as such, I really don't know what to do ? It may look better in real life : you know what colour is such a personal thing so please don't be put off by my post - it is interesting though , loads of posts about people struggling on Colour .

I'm in a similar position - I agree white looks fantastic, but don't want a white car. As good as red looks, I don't want something so loud either!

Agate grey and Rhodium Silver are now top of the list, but really want to see both colours in the flesh before committing either way!

Regards

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