Riots in Stockholm
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AnonSpoilSport

12,955 posts

202 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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vodkalolly said:
We fail to declare this is a first class country with first class trading terms with the best economies in the world. We have a few world class assets such as technology and Universities, We should therefore invite only first class people to come and settle here.
They're on it already...


irocfan

47,624 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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AnonSpoilSport said:
PISS WELL AND TRULY BOILED!!

IroningMan

10,598 posts

272 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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vodkalolly said:
To avoid the problems in Sweden and the situation in Woowich it would be a start to disconnect the sky fairy from the legitimate business of running our nation. I fail to see why our second chamber is packed with bishops and devoid of other religious leaders. Where is the Jedi lord? It seems to me at the moment the purpose of the government and the civil service is to set us against each other. It would be helpful if this stopped. Now.
26 Lords Spiritual out of a total of 830-odd is not really 'packed', is it? Given that the CofE is the State's Established religion.

The Chief Rabbi also gets a seat - I'm sure that the Chief Imam would do, too, were there such a thing.

wolves_wanderer

12,941 posts

263 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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irocfan said:
AnonSpoilSport said:
PISS WELL AND TRULY BOILED!!
Absolutely. I hope that booklet is available in more languages than just English, otherwise how is a new arrival to understand it?

irocfan

47,624 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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wolves_wanderer said:
irocfan said:
AnonSpoilSport said:
PISS WELL AND TRULY BOILED!!
Absolutely. I hope that booklet is available in more languages than just English, otherwise how is a new arrival to understand it?
exactly - it should be available in all 47ish languages commonly found in the UK.

FiF

48,303 posts

277 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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wolves_wanderer said:
Absolutely. I hope that booklet is available in more languages than just English, otherwise how is a new arrival to understand it?
Booklet said:
This leaflet is available in Welsh and other languages(Arabic, Bengali, Chinese, Gujarati, Punjabi, Somali,Urdu and Vietnamese)
full contents

vodkalolly

985 posts

162 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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IroningMan said:
26 Lords Spiritual out of a total of 830-odd is not really 'packed', is it? Given that the CofE is the State's Established religion.

The Chief Rabbi also gets a seat - I'm sure that the Chief Imam would do, too, were there such a thing.
Considering that they can produce no evidence for the existence of god and so few people are practicing sky fairy worshippers then why do they have what is proportionally a massive presence in the Lords? There are, as I said no representatives of Jedi knights. There are no representatives of prison inmates and there are certainly more people in prison or on release than attend churches regularly. There are more gays and lesbians than attend churches, yet they are not officially represented. What about motorist interest groups? How many representing them are there?

My contention is that we need rapidly to disconnect the sky fairy silliness from the serious business of government. These people can have no claim to represent anything, yet they claim to be "in charge" of the moral code of our society, well they certainly don't represent me, no religious leaders do. Atheists are now a significantly cohort of the population and its high time we had a democratic say in the way our society is run and this needs to be removed from the hands of idiots with 2000 year old out of date ideas.

IroningMan

10,598 posts

272 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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You can vote - you have no less a democratic say than anyone else.

Proselytising atheists are a conflicted bunch.

AnonSpoilSport

12,955 posts

202 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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FiF said:
wolves_wanderer said:
Absolutely. I hope that booklet is available in more languages than just English, otherwise how is a new arrival to understand it?
Booklet said:
This leaflet is available in Welsh and other languages(Arabic, Bengali, Chinese, Gujarati, Punjabi, Somali,Urdu and Vietnamese)
full contents
It seems from the booklet that as long as someone has a legal right to be here (EU and various other countries as listed) and have been here for 26 weeks you can claim quite a few benefits, even if you have contributed no NI/tax.

Re. the nations with special NI rules where paying the equivalent there can count as if someone has contributed NI, does that mean the other country offers some recompense?

FiF

48,303 posts

277 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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AnonSpoilSport said:
FiF said:
wolves_wanderer said:
Absolutely. I hope that booklet is available in more languages than just English, otherwise how is a new arrival to understand it?
Booklet said:
This leaflet is available in Welsh and other languages(Arabic, Bengali, Chinese, Gujarati, Punjabi, Somali,Urdu and Vietnamese)
full contents
It seems from the booklet that as long as someone has a legal right to be here (EU and various other countries as listed) and have been here for 26 weeks you can claim quite a few benefits, even if you have contributed no NI/tax.

Re. the nations with special NI rules where paying the equivalent there can count as if someone has contributed NI, does that mean the other country offers some recompense?
I don't know the answer to your question but a lot hinges on right to reside. If one looks at the Aussie system, if you have the right to settle (similar to right to reside I think) then any children would be educated under the state schooling system. Right to settle dependent upon what skills and will they be beneficial to Australia.

If right to settle is not granted then education has to be in private schooling.

Just one example, I don't see what is wrong with that.

Anyone can come from anywhere, but it hinges on what you can contribute.

Finlandia

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7,815 posts

257 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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FiF said:
I don't know the answer to your question but a lot hinges on right to reside. If one looks at the Aussie system, if you have the right to settle (similar to right to reside I think) then any children would be educated under the state schooling system. Right to settle dependent upon what skills and will they be beneficial to Australia.

If right to settle is not granted then education has to be in private schooling.

Just one example, I don't see what is wrong with that.

Anyone can come from anywhere, but it hinges on what you can contribute.
In Sweden "papperslösa flyktingar", illegal/rejected asylum seekers or so called "paperless refugees" can use the healthcare and educational systems for free, contrary to residents.

Finlandia

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7,815 posts

257 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Riots kicking off again, for the fifth night, cars set alight in several suburbs and tube trains being vandalised.

Pesty

42,655 posts

282 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Finlandia said:
Riots kicking off again, for the fifth night, cars set alight in several suburbs and tube trains being vandalised.
Oh you are just focusing on the negatives, think of the positives bringing in third world immigrants brings.

Edited by Pesty on Thursday 23 May 21:06

rovermorris999

5,339 posts

215 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Pesty said:
Oh you are just focusing on the negatives, think of the positives bringing I third world immigrants brings.
Indeed, such vibrancy!

skyrover

12,698 posts

230 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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you can take them out of the third world but...

Finlandia

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7,815 posts

257 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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rovermorris999 said:
Pesty said:
Oh you are just focusing on the negatives, think of the positives bringing I third world immigrants brings.
Indeed, such vibrancy!
Excuse me for seeing this in a negative light (of a burning car) but I'm the one having to pay for these bonfire nights with my tax... wink

I don't understand why this is allowed to go on and on, it needs to be stopped now, it should have been stopped the second night!

Seek

1,228 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Finlandia said:
rovermorris999 said:
Pesty said:
Oh you are just focusing on the negatives, think of the positives bringing I third world immigrants brings.
Indeed, such vibrancy!
Excuse me for seeing this in a negative light (of a burning car) but I'm the one having to pay for these bonfire nights with my tax... wink

I don't understand why this is allowed to go on and on, it needs to be stopped now, it should have been stopped the second night!
Racilist!

(my taxes too)

Pesty

42,655 posts

282 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Seek said:
Finlandia said:
rovermorris999 said:
Pesty said:
Oh you are just focusing on the negatives, think of the positives bringing I third world immigrants brings.
Indeed, such vibrancy!
Excuse me for seeing this in a negative light (of a burning car) but I'm the one having to pay for these bonfire nights with my tax... wink

I don't understand why this is allowed to go on and on, it needs to be stopped now, it should have been stopped the second night!
Racilist!

(my taxes too)
Yeah but curry and err loads of other stuff.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

212 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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its worth it for all those lovely left wing votes.
smile

supersingle

3,205 posts

245 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Finlandia said:
Excuse me for seeing this in a negative light (of a burning car) but I'm the one having to pay for these bonfire nights with my tax... wink

I don't understand why this is allowed to go on and on, it needs to be stopped now, it should have been stopped the second night!
It's their culcha innit.

You should be celebrating the enrichment that third world immigration is bringing to Sweden. Just think where you'd be without it!