600 Afghan Interpreters and families to move to UK
600 Afghan Interpreters and families to move to UK
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cjb1

2,000 posts

177 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Zod said:
cjb1 said:
Zod said:
cjb1 said:
Well I just hope that this lot can at least speak English if they're coming to live here?smile
I presume that smiley was supposed to be this one: wink
Ahh, so we have a 'smiley expert in our gathering, indeed you were correct Sir.teacher
I learned through hard experience of people not understanding when I was being humorous!
And I've learned why I recently had few weeks break from PH Forums (because of the pedantic sad nerds that pick up on the most petty things). Cheerio PH, enough is enough............
byebye

Zod

35,295 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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cjb1 said:
Zod said:
cjb1 said:
Zod said:
cjb1 said:
Well I just hope that this lot can at least speak English if they're coming to live here?smile
I presume that smiley was supposed to be this one: wink
Ahh, so we have a 'smiley expert in our gathering, indeed you were correct Sir.teacher
I learned through hard experience of people not understanding when I was being humorous!
And I've learned why I recently had few weeks break from PH Forums (because of the pedantic sad nerds that pick up on the most petty things). Cheerio PH, enough is enough............
byebye
Are you serious? You are being a little over-sensitive, I feel.

Colonial

13,553 posts

231 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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richinleeds said:
Having just been working with them for the last 6 months I think my opinion is worth more than most tbh.

It's a big fat NO from me, they signed a contract with ISAF no one forced them to sign it and no where on it does it say they can come and live in our already overcrowded country, and it is oh so easy for them to say oh last night we had a visit from the taliban and they threatened to do this that and the other etc.
They are not stupid they know that is all they have to say and az usual we will bend over backwards to help them do people really think they were working for us to help no it's because they were getting bloody huge wages in comparison to what there used to.
Can you get one of them to translate that into English for me?

Thanks.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

243 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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laugh

smegmore

3,091 posts

202 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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How many 'sleepers' could we expect among this lot then?

Mr_B

10,480 posts

269 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Colonial said:
richinleeds said:
Having just been working with them for the last 6 months I think my opinion is worth more than most tbh.

It's a big fat NO from me, they signed a contract with ISAF no one forced them to sign it and no where on it does it say they can come and live in our already overcrowded country, and it is oh so easy for them to say oh last night we had a visit from the taliban and they threatened to do this that and the other etc.
They are not stupid they know that is all they have to say and az usual we will bend over backwards to help them do people really think they were working for us to help no it's because they were getting bloody huge wages in comparison to what there used to.
Can you get one of them to translate that into English for me?

Thanks.
Why don't you try and address the point, rather than just try and belittle someone ?

Colonial

13,553 posts

231 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Mr_B said:
Why don't you try and address the point, rather than just try and belittle someone ?
Nah. I thought I'd follow your lead for a bit instead.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

269 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Colonial said:
Mr_B said:
Why don't you try and address the point, rather than just try and belittle someone ?
Nah. I thought I'd follow your lead for a bit instead.
I did at least take time to explain what I think. You are of the opinion your view is better and don't need to do that when someone expresses their view.

richinleeds

738 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Colonial said:
Mr_B said:
Why don't you try and address the point, rather than just try and belittle someone ?
Nah. I thought I'd follow your lead for a bit instead.
Thanks for your input on the thread......I think most people that read what I posted understood it, I do apologise for missing a couple of comma's and a typo I didn't realise I was sitting an English exam.

cjb1

2,000 posts

177 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Zod said:
cjb1 said:
Zod said:
cjb1 said:
Zod said:
cjb1 said:
Well I just hope that this lot can at least speak English if they're coming to live here?smile
I presume that smiley was supposed to be this one: wink
Ahh, so we have a 'smiley expert in our gathering, indeed you were correct Sir.teacher
I learned through hard experience of people not understanding when I was being humorous!
And I've learned why I recently had few weeks break from PH Forums (because of the pedantic sad nerds that pick up on the most petty things). Cheerio PH, enough is enough............
byebye
Are you serious? You are being a little over-sensitive, I feel.
I'm not listening, you can't make me!
wink

Anyway, I've gone, I'm not here so there.

rfisher

5,059 posts

309 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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kowalski655 said:
Maybe we can send back 600 afghan illegals-keep the numbers even
Enticingly logical.

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

305 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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RSoovy4 said:
For once, I welcome them with open arms. They put their lives on the line for the UK.
Funny. I thought they put their lives on the line for ISAF, NATO and their own Afghan government. We are helping them, not the other way around.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

259 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Ayahuasca said:
RSoovy4 said:
For once, I welcome them with open arms. They put their lives on the line for the UK.
Funny. I thought they put their lives on the line for ISAF, NATO and their own Afghan government. We are helping them, not the other way around.
This and money pushes me into a 'sorry we are full' camp.

They are getting wages they never dreamed of, they are not being forced to do this work, they know the risks when they sign up and part of the sign up is not automatic leave to reside in UK. In addition to this it is not just Barry but also his family and however wide that net is thrown.

Harsh but that's what they signed up for and is that same vein as that I took on fire-fighters and the comments that were going around when in the early '90's a few soldiers were all shocked to find out that they might actually have to fire a weapon in anger.

Blue Oval84

5,381 posts

187 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Rude-boy said:
Ayahuasca said:
RSoovy4 said:
For once, I welcome them with open arms. They put their lives on the line for the UK.
Funny. I thought they put their lives on the line for ISAF, NATO and their own Afghan government. We are helping them, not the other way around.
This and money pushes me into a 'sorry we are full' camp.

They are getting wages they never dreamed of, they are not being forced to do this work, they know the risks when they sign up and part of the sign up is not automatic leave to reside in UK. In addition to this it is not just Barry but also his family and however wide that net is thrown.

Harsh but that's what they signed up for and is that same vein as that I took on fire-fighters and the comments that were going around when in the early '90's a few soldiers were all shocked to find out that they might actually have to fire a weapon in anger.
When they signed up though is it not possible that they naively thought we may get shot of the Taliban properly and not leave them liable to be tortured and killed? (genuine question)

From another angle, part of me thinks they are still welcome because we want other people around the world to help us (granted in exchange for a good salary), if they think they will be abandoned and condemned to death then surely we'll struggle to get help in future?

BMW3s6

2,860 posts

224 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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I'm fine with it, some of the interpreters I meet really did want a better country and thought they were doing good and liked the us/Brit forces over there. They were also quite liberal.

But what does annoy the fk out of me is how poorly treated Gurkhas get from the government

ecain63

10,646 posts

201 months

Saturday 25th May 2013
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Having met and worked with a number of 'terps' in Afghanistan I can only see this as us honouring ourend of the deal. We lost a few terps when I was there through kidnap, grenade attacks and the like. They'd be dead meat if we left them behind now.

And, as above, we should have done more for our Ghurkas.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

281 months

Saturday 25th May 2013
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ecain63 said:
Having met and worked with a number of 'terps' in Afghanistan I can only see this as us honouring ourend of the deal. We lost a few terps when I was there through kidnap, grenade attacks and the like. They'd be dead meat if we left them behind now.

And, as above, we should have done more for our Ghurkas.
People were up in arms about the treatment of the Ghurkas... I hope folks won't change that stance because these chaps are Persian.

davepoth

29,395 posts

225 months

Saturday 25th May 2013
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richinleeds said:
Having just been working with them for the last 6 months I think my opinion is worth more than most tbh.
And immediately, the opposite is true...

richinleeds

738 posts

226 months

Saturday 25th May 2013
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Hmmmm so it seem's, let's just open the borders i mean we have the room and infrastructure don't we.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

281 months

Saturday 25th May 2013
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richinleeds said:
Hmmmm so it seem's, let's just open the borders i mean we have the room and infrastructure don't we.
Wow. From letting in folks who risked their lives, to open the borders to anyone? Can you say 'Strawman'?

With regards to your opinion... No, it is not worth more than anyone else's.