"Incident" at Heathrow - runways closed
Discussion
Puggit said:
BA762 to Oslo with only 75 pax on board.
How come I never get these quiet flights?!
Because you're Mr Star Alliance How come I never get these quiet flights?!
I was at work today at the other end in Oslo, got interesting mid morning.
RE PIA interception, SAS were intercepted last month also :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
Different circumstances but it still goes on.
sneijder said:
Puggit said:
BA762 to Oslo with only 75 pax on board.
How come I never get these quiet flights?!
Because you're Mr Star Alliance How come I never get these quiet flights?!
I was at work today at the other end in Oslo, got interesting mid morning.
RE PIA interception, SAS were intercepted last month also :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
Different circumstances but it still goes on.
el stovey said:
fflyingdog said:
So basically a massive non event ,aircraft has possible bird strike or other failure,pilot does an air return on one fully seviceable engine ,pilot does single engine approach ,lands safely and everyone gets off and has a cup of tea.
ETA.Now seems as though the engine cowls 'may' have let go,they do if not latched...............
Massive non event? You don't land and throw everyone down the slides for a non event. You only evacuate passengers if it's an emergency. When was the last time you did a single engine landing in a two engined passenger jet? ETA.Now seems as though the engine cowls 'may' have let go,they do if not latched...............
fflyingdog said:
el stovey said:
fflyingdog said:
So basically a massive non event ,aircraft has possible bird strike or other failure,pilot does an air return on one fully seviceable engine ,pilot does single engine approach ,lands safely and everyone gets off and has a cup of tea.
ETA.Now seems as though the engine cowls 'may' have let go,they do if not latched...............
Massive non event? You don't land and throw everyone down the slides for a non event. You only evacuate passengers if it's an emergency. When was the last time you did a single engine landing in a two engined passenger jet? ETA.Now seems as though the engine cowls 'may' have let go,they do if not latched...............
el stovey said:
fflyingdog said:
el stovey said:
fflyingdog said:
So basically a massive non event ,aircraft has possible bird strike or other failure,pilot does an air return on one fully seviceable engine ,pilot does single engine approach ,lands safely and everyone gets off and has a cup of tea.
ETA.Now seems as though the engine cowls 'may' have let go,they do if not latched...............
Massive non event? You don't land and throw everyone down the slides for a non event. You only evacuate passengers if it's an emergency. When was the last time you did a single engine landing in a two engined passenger jet? ETA.Now seems as though the engine cowls 'may' have let go,they do if not latched...............
fflyingdog said:
el stovey said:
fflyingdog said:
el stovey said:
fflyingdog said:
So basically a massive non event ,aircraft has possible bird strike or other failure,pilot does an air return on one fully seviceable engine ,pilot does single engine approach ,lands safely and everyone gets off and has a cup of tea.
ETA.Now seems as though the engine cowls 'may' have let go,they do if not latched...............
Massive non event? You don't land and throw everyone down the slides for a non event. You only evacuate passengers if it's an emergency. When was the last time you did a single engine landing in a two engined passenger jet? ETA.Now seems as though the engine cowls 'may' have let go,they do if not latched...............
BUT I think it's pretty clear to everyone that an incident like this, especially one that results in a passenger evacuation isn't a "massive non event". No airline evacuates the cabin if they don't need to.
Frik said:
Plane lost an engine on take off, whatever that means.
https://twitter.com/JeremyCThompson/status/3378408...
Did BA find it yet?https://twitter.com/JeremyCThompson/status/3378408...
Not that I speak for flyingdog or anyone but meself like, but I think I get the sentiment.
Obviously it's a significant event for the aircraft and more so for the passengers, but in the overall scheme of things, it's a relatively minor incident in that the machine was controllable, under power throughout & handled exactly as the crew would have practised in the sim.
On this occasion, I imagine the crew's chat with the chief pilot would have involved tea with biscuits rather than without.
If it turns out the cowlings were left unlatched though, then that might change. We shall see.
Obviously it's a significant event for the aircraft and more so for the passengers, but in the overall scheme of things, it's a relatively minor incident in that the machine was controllable, under power throughout & handled exactly as the crew would have practised in the sim.
On this occasion, I imagine the crew's chat with the chief pilot would have involved tea with biscuits rather than without.
If it turns out the cowlings were left unlatched though, then that might change. We shall see.
GTDNB said:
trains are full. the website lied.
well fortunately we have access to a T5 camper and it's ready to go. i've always wanted to do it like that but not in these circumstances!!
Did you make it???well fortunately we have access to a T5 camper and it's ready to go. i've always wanted to do it like that but not in these circumstances!!
I was supposed to be on the 18:05 from Heathrow. It was supposed to be delayed, but ended up being cancelled at 9pm. Too late to do anything about it - Gutted!!!!!
Video of V2500 engine (as fitted to the Heathrow airbus) cowling procedures. Staged in a well lit, warm & dry hnagar which I imagine will irritate an engineer or two working in the cold dark & wet airports around the place. Interesting to see what you need to do to release or conversely do up the main fan cowls. Could be an argument made for less than thorough checking given the contortions required.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...
fflyingdog said:
Ok this is what happened,from a BA Captain colleague of mine. Cowl latches not latched after maintenance on both number 1 and number 2 engine , pilot doing walk around missed it.As for fire and ruptered fuel nothing as yet.
Wow that's some serious human error there. I assume these guys have a rather large heck list and somebody checks they have checked and sign it off?
I've seen the reports raf guys fill out when doing maintenance.
Justin Cyder said:
skyrover said:
ever seen a pilot spend much time checking the plane before flight?
Erm...yes. Lots. Of course if it's pissing down, then the honour usually goes to the first officer.Edited by fflyingdog on Saturday 25th May 19:45
fflyingdog said:
Eng 1 fan cowl came off at rotation disturbed the air flow and caused a series of stalls and surges,the crew very nearly shut it down,then eng 2 caught fire,flight crew kept both going luckily.
Nothing on why eng 2 caught fire as yet.
Cause it lost a cowl or both two, rupturing something. Nothing on why eng 2 caught fire as yet.
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