Dieting help for an obese person with zero willpower
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Hoofy ya cheeky b
d! 
I'll have you know my fiancée is a rather nice curvy with massive knockers
And no I can't post a pic because she wants to trim up. Then I'll get one on my car and pretend I'm in max power magazine
As for this woman if she doesn't mind spending dosh as it seems, what about that diet chef where they deliver the meals and you microwave them and loose weight? She doesn't have to do fk all then except pay 
d! I'll have you know my fiancée is a rather nice curvy with massive knockers
And no I can't post a pic because she wants to trim up. Then I'll get one on my car and pretend I'm in max power magazine
As for this woman if she doesn't mind spending dosh as it seems, what about that diet chef where they deliver the meals and you microwave them and loose weight? She doesn't have to do f
k all then except pay Offer her a deal: NO exercise but NO sugar and NO alcohol. Three months.
There's no way she can work off the weight with the sugar load she has. At least this sounds easy. If she does get past cold turkey the weight will fall off her, which might be enough to make her try a bit more.
There's no way she can work off the weight with the sugar load she has. At least this sounds easy. If she does get past cold turkey the weight will fall off her, which might be enough to make her try a bit more.
TheJimi said:
A wholesale diet change isn't going to happen, it's just not feasible. That is obviously the medium-long term goal, but going nuclear straight off the bat is going to be utterly counter-productive.
It's the only feasible option for an addict... but first she needs it drilled in that she is an addict and addicted as much as any drug user such as a cocaine or heroin user. They are only ever cured by going teetotal.TheJimi said:
She, like most in her position, has drifted in and out of various diets and bouts of exercising.
...otherwise ^this happens. Again and again and again. See? The fix really is as simple as it is obvious. The hard bit is in breaking down the addicted-brain's barriers. "Addiction always speaks in the voice of excuses". Repeat that to her, everytime you hear an excuse. ANY reason she can come up with to slack, no matter how petty or feasible, is an excuse. 100%. Your battle (as is mine with new people all the time) is to get her to recognise the addiction, the excuses and how her mind works. Drill. Repeat. Nag. Pester. Push.
smiffy180 said:
Hoofy ya cheeky bd!
I'll have you know my fiancée is a rather nice curvy with massive knockers
And no I can't post a pic because she wants to trim up. Then I'll get one on my car and pretend I'm in max power magazine
As for this woman if she doesn't mind spending dosh as it seems, what about that diet chef where they deliver the meals and you microwave them and loose weight? She doesn't have to do fk all then except pay
Noooo not diet chef! My friend just wasted a fortune on meals that were all high GI and she was starving and having sugar crashes all the time. d! I'll have you know my fiancée is a rather nice curvy with massive knockers
And no I can't post a pic because she wants to trim up. Then I'll get one on my car and pretend I'm in max power magazine
As for this woman if she doesn't mind spending dosh as it seems, what about that diet chef where they deliver the meals and you microwave them and loose weight? She doesn't have to do f
k all then except pay smiffy180 said:
Rach* said:
Noooo not diet chef! My friend just wasted a fortune on meals that were all high GI and she was starving and having sugar crashes all the time.
Fair enough I've only seen the advert She can only change if she wants to, she can look at her diet sheet and know she's eating a load of s
t. But she needs to bring the change about from within herself. Be a good friend, don't nag or criticize.
Walking is an awesome fat burner, can you join her for a walk after work or something?
I used the MFP app for a month or so and it gave me a surprising insight into my daily calorie consumption. Without actually really changing what I eat or my (extremely) low activity levels I've dropped around a stone in the last 2-3 months.
I now find myself thinking automatically about things like portion size, fat and calorie content whereas before I just carried on regardless. My weight took a long time to go on, it will take a long time to come off - and I don't really even feel like I'm 'dieting', I've just changed how much I eat mainly.
I now find myself thinking automatically about things like portion size, fat and calorie content whereas before I just carried on regardless. My weight took a long time to go on, it will take a long time to come off - and I don't really even feel like I'm 'dieting', I've just changed how much I eat mainly.
smiffy180 said:
Hoofy ya cheeky bd!
I'll have you know my fiancée is a rather nice curvy with massive knockers
And no I can't post a pic because she wants to trim up. Then I'll get one on my car and pretend I'm in max power magazine
d! I'll have you know my fiancée is a rather nice curvy with massive knockers
And no I can't post a pic because she wants to trim up. Then I'll get one on my car and pretend I'm in max power magazine
Sorry.I look forward to photos. Got the tissues ready.
throt said:
Why does anyone need a bloody mid morning snack and a supper before beddie byes.
Well, in a way, you're right. Hunger's just a feeling... Oh boo-fking-hoo. She's hungry. I've been hungry since December 2011. She won't die unless she's already very ill, just recovering from an op or has a bodyfat% below 5 in which case we wouldn't be having this conversation. Tell her to just eat half of what she's eating now and don't change that pattern of eating for 2 years.SparkPeople is a bit nauseating on first impression but it's very, very, VERY good at helping people like your colleague take stock of where they are and work out what to do next.
I agree, this lady is only going to cope with tiny changes made gradually - I'd be inclined to start not by removing anything per se but by trying to add some fresh, tasty fruit/veg to her day, precut bags as it sounds like she doesn't really cook much, if necessary. Hopefully that and encouraging her to drink a lot more (cold water) will help her feel full and be a big step towards dropping the bags of crisps.
I agree, this lady is only going to cope with tiny changes made gradually - I'd be inclined to start not by removing anything per se but by trying to add some fresh, tasty fruit/veg to her day, precut bags as it sounds like she doesn't really cook much, if necessary. Hopefully that and encouraging her to drink a lot more (cold water) will help her feel full and be a big step towards dropping the bags of crisps.
Hoofy said:
SunDiver said:
Rather frighteningly, McDonalds' website lists large fries as 755kcals alone...!
Even worse, then! Maybe the portion is bigger than I thought. How far out were my other estimates? ETA: http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/ukhome/meal_builder.htm...
As always, it's an easy sum, Calories In has to be less than Calories Out.
The way most people try to do it is to cut down Calories In. That's hard to do quickly, your body wants the food too much. Calories out is just as important.
The stairs are a good first step, and shifting all that bulk will burn a lot of calories. Little things like that, putting movement into her lifestyle (which at a guess is drive to work, sit at desk, drive to M&S, Drive back, sit at desk, drive to McDs, drive home, sit to watch TV, bed) is the most important thing. Even walking to get the sandwich at lunch would be a good start.
Of all the things to cut out, she needs to start with the supper first IMO. The body will lay all of that down as fat overnight as it won't get burnt off.
The way most people try to do it is to cut down Calories In. That's hard to do quickly, your body wants the food too much. Calories out is just as important.
The stairs are a good first step, and shifting all that bulk will burn a lot of calories. Little things like that, putting movement into her lifestyle (which at a guess is drive to work, sit at desk, drive to M&S, Drive back, sit at desk, drive to McDs, drive home, sit to watch TV, bed) is the most important thing. Even walking to get the sandwich at lunch would be a good start.
Of all the things to cut out, she needs to start with the supper first IMO. The body will lay all of that down as fat overnight as it won't get burnt off.
Alex106 said:
Hoofy said:
SunDiver said:
Rather frighteningly, McDonalds' website lists large fries as 755kcals alone...!
Even worse, then! Maybe the portion is bigger than I thought. How far out were my other estimates? ETA: http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/ukhome/meal_builder.htm...
Once upon a time, I could recall all the main sports car BHPs. Nowadays, I seem to be good at guestimating kcals of food.
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