Jimmy Savile

[Jonesy23]

Will wait for more details, there are always stories floating around but difficult to know which to believe! Doesn't help when people slap injunctions on things either.

In any case even a confirmed arrest would mean nothing, anything prior to a guilty verdict is always speculation and opinion rather than solid fact.

[Roo]

petemurphy said:

there will be a lot of people facing a lawsuit if its not him

Just had a quick look. Two names cropped up and I thought one of those people was currently in Ireland.

[Jonesy23]

petemurphy said:

there will be a lot of people facing a lawsuit if its not him

This is the thing I'm not surprised at. Twitter seems to hold an endless supply of people lining up to keep the legal profession busy. You'd think they'd have woken up a little after Bercow.

[Pesty]

oh a light bulb has just come on my head you know that urgent meeting the other day?

was it to do with this?

[onyx39]

If its who I think it is from the twitter hints, I am stunned.

[Justayellowbadge]

onyx39 said:

If its who I think it is from the twitter hints, I am stunned.

Roo said:

Apparently all speculation as it's not a front page name.

[onyx39]

Justayellowbadge said:

onyx39 said:

If its who I think it is from the twitter hints, I am stunned.

Roo said:

Apparently all speculation as it's not a front page name.

That's the only thing that does not fit, I agree...could it be a BACK page name, ie:sports person perhaps?

[longblackcoat]

No surprise at the latest name - Chris Denning's been in and out of jail for chaild sex offences for the last three decades. As usual, Twitter was way wide of the mark

[Hugo a Gogo]

from BBC news:

... helped launch the careers of the Bay City Rollers and Gary Glitter ....

[onyx39]

Hugo a Gogo said:

from BBC news:

... helped launch the careers of the Bay City Rollers and Gary Glitter ....

A chap I worked with about 10 years ago (an Aussie) used to be in a band and knew the BCR's, told me that the reason the band split was because they would entertain his "requests"

[tubbystu]

Stuart Hall sentenced to 15 months prison.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22932222

The first occupant of the newly required "celebrity wing" - god forbid but there's a C5 TV showing dying to be comissioned

[Frik]

Details of the assaults:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...

Most of these women came forward after Hall's arrest. This is why anonymity for the suspect is a problem.

[goldblum]

Really? Why couldn't the women come forward before Hall's arrest? It's either a crime or it isn't.

[Pat H]

goldblum said:

Really? Why couldn't the women come forward before Hall's arrest? It's either a crime or it isn't.

They could have done.

But crimes are not always reported. Especially sexual offences, where there is shame, stigma and the significant risk of being dismissed as a liar.

It is a good job that there was publicity, or no one else would have come forward.

Then it would have been Hall's word against that of a middle aged woman regarding something that happened a very long time ago.

And he would have made a persuasive, eloquent and disarming witness. And he would probably have been acquitted.

Before the others came forward I would never have believed he was this sort of chap. I rather liked him.

But thank God for the lack of anonymity and his (very stupid) protestations of innocence.

Which resulted in more victims having the courage to come forward, thereby reducing the likelihood of an acquittal.

And so he finally admitted what he had done. An unequivocal guilty plea in the face of overwhelming evidence.

I have absolutely no doubt that he is as guilty as Crippen.

This case is a resounding endorsement that the law regarding anonymity is absolutely bang on.

[Mr Snap]

goldblum said:

Really? Why couldn't the women come forward before Hall's arrest? It's either a crime or it isn't.

He pleaded guilty.

Are you now saying he should have got off?

[vodkalolly]

Mr Snap said:

He pleaded guilty.

Are you now saying he should have got off?

It is right he has been convicted. What was quite disturbing was that the public prosecutor was on R4 tonight saying he may well prosecute Hall again if further complaints are made. It is bad enough having to jail an 83 year old, but to then set the sword of Damocles swinging is, in effect, threatening with sequential sentences. I think that is wrong because of his age. It would be fine if he had years of life ahead of him. Will we prosecute the prosecutor of Hall dies in jail? Or is the death sentence now the preferred outcome for these prosecutions of old men?

[Globs]

vodkalolly said:

It is bad enough having to jail an 83 year old

Actually no it isn't, and TBH he should have got at least 15 years IMO, for the many years of lives he wrecked.
If you start letting people off their crimes just because they are old, you reduce the deterrent effect: sending this psychotic criminal to prison sends a clear message that your past can always catch up with you.

[Justayellowbadge]

vodkalolly said:

It is right he has been convicted. What was quite disturbing was that the public prosecutor was on R4 tonight saying he may well prosecute Hall again if further complaints are made. It is bad enough having to jail an 83 year old, but to then set the sword of Damocles swinging is, in effect, threatening with sequential sentences. I think that is wrong because of his age. It would be fine if he had years of life ahead of him. Will we prosecute the prosecutor of Hall dies in jail? Or is the death sentence now the preferred outcome for these prosecutions of old men?

If there are other offences, and he didn't cough and ask for them to be taken into consideration, then yes, he should be prosecuted for them.

[anonymous-user]

vodkalolly said:

It is right he has been convicted. What was quite disturbing was that the public prosecutor was on R4 tonight saying he may well prosecute Hall again if further complaints are made. It is bad enough having to jail an 83 year old, but to then set the sword of Damocles swinging is, in effect, threatening with sequential sentences. I think that is wrong because of his age. It would be fine if he had years of life ahead of him. Will we prosecute the prosecutor of Hall dies in jail? Or is the death sentence now the preferred outcome for these prosecutions of old men?

He's a fking child molester! His age is irrelevant.

[vodkalolly]

Globs said:

Actually no it isn't, and TBH he should have got at least 15 years IMO, for the many years of lives he wrecked.
If you start letting people off their crimes just because they are old, you reduce the deterrent effect: sending this psychotic criminal to prison sends a clear message that your past can always catch up with you.

Oooh really 15 years? So, more than for rape then? I respect your view, however it would be easier to understand if I had something to measure it with. Like is murder to be met with disembowelment and rape to attract a 50 year sentence? Anything more than a year or so would be a death sentence for Hall. We are talking about groping offenses here. The sort of thing that still happens all the time. I honestly think that most of what I have read about the details would leave most of his victims repulsed and offended. Perhaps even traumatised in the short term. Honestly though is your life wrecked if someone puts his hand up your skirt? One of my friends was driven round Oulton by James Hunt when she was 16. The entire lap was gearstick leg gearstick leg, getting higher as the lap progressed. It did not ruin her life. 15 months in clink has certainly ruined Halls though.