Dornier 17 wreck
Discussion
Eric Mc said:
Exactly - all divers need to have an intimate acquaintance with pressure. It could be the difference between life or death.
Lucky his gauge had a 1940 Luftwaffe thread!DH01 said:
Safely towed into Rammy this afternoon, soon to be cut up and transported.
Why then did they not cut it before they lifted it?IanMorewood said:
I'm glad they lifted it and hope to see it on display some time in the future, however I cant help think the result was way poorer than could have been achieved even if the air is still in the tyres, I know conditions where poor and diving tricky but I would say the initial plan took two years to devise and the way they actually lifted it took no more than two hours to think about.
That is more commonly known as 'Decision by Committee' !
FourWheelDrift said:
some more photos on here - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2339428/La...
Made all the more interesting by the inclusion of a comment from our very own Eric. Like wandering into a pub you've never visited before and finding an old friend at the bar.
Yertis said:
FourWheelDrift said:
some more photos on here - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2339428/La...
Made all the more interesting by the inclusion of a comment from our very own Eric. Like wandering into a pub you've never visited before and finding an old friend at the bar.
Cosford arrival video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDpI838THpI
Good, good. So far it hasn't dissolved like a sugar cube in a cup of tea.
Hopefully they'll get this de-salting solution right and manage to conserve/preserve as much of it as possible. Interesting to see from the video that it was built by Henschel under license from Dornier.
One question I have is "did the Enemy Aircraft Evaluation unit at Farnborough never have a Do17?" They had an awful lot of other stuff throughout the war and after - even a couple of two-seat Do335s, although they were both lost in crashes. I remember in the 1970s there was a large collection of historic Axis aircraft at RAF St Athan, where I believe volunteer/apprentice fitters worked to keep them in good order. Some of them even ran, on the ground at least. I recognised the Hendon Fw190 2 seater last time I visited, and have often wondered what happened to the rest of the collection, and also what became of the Wales Air Museum's collection at Rhoose, although I fear a lot of that was cut up on site after if closed.
So much aviation history was within the reach of preservation, but left to rot in open storage/display to the point where scrapping was the inevitable result. Lessons have been learned too late for some types, so it's good that another 'extinct' aircraft has been brought back into the light.
The preservation/conservation of these 'enemy' types is hugely important. They stand as a memorial to the skill and bravery of their young crews, ordinary young men sent to fight and die in a war they had no part in starting.
Hopefully they'll get this de-salting solution right and manage to conserve/preserve as much of it as possible. Interesting to see from the video that it was built by Henschel under license from Dornier.
One question I have is "did the Enemy Aircraft Evaluation unit at Farnborough never have a Do17?" They had an awful lot of other stuff throughout the war and after - even a couple of two-seat Do335s, although they were both lost in crashes. I remember in the 1970s there was a large collection of historic Axis aircraft at RAF St Athan, where I believe volunteer/apprentice fitters worked to keep them in good order. Some of them even ran, on the ground at least. I recognised the Hendon Fw190 2 seater last time I visited, and have often wondered what happened to the rest of the collection, and also what became of the Wales Air Museum's collection at Rhoose, although I fear a lot of that was cut up on site after if closed.
So much aviation history was within the reach of preservation, but left to rot in open storage/display to the point where scrapping was the inevitable result. Lessons have been learned too late for some types, so it's good that another 'extinct' aircraft has been brought back into the light.
The preservation/conservation of these 'enemy' types is hugely important. They stand as a memorial to the skill and bravery of their young crews, ordinary young men sent to fight and die in a war they had no part in starting.
[quote=yellowjack]One question I have is "did the Enemy Aircraft Evaluation unit at Farnborough never have a Do17?" [/quote
According to this, a 217 but not a 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_217
According to this, a 217 but not a 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_217
Simpo Two said:
yellowjack said:
One question I have is "did the Enemy Aircraft Evaluation unit at Farnborough never have a Do17?"
According to this, a 217 but not a 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_217I know we can't keep all of everything, but history is an easier thing to understand when you can see the relics and artefacts for yourself. Which is why the recovery of this Do17, despite it's poor condition, is important.
Edited by yellowjack on Monday 17th June 22:55
Apologies for the thread resurrection. There’s a DO17 crashsite near me in Norway, took a hike up there today.
There’s what I assume to be the tail box section, a landing gear (with hydraulic strut) and bits of engine still there. There’s some sheet metal that I assume to be from the tail body. It’s a good 90 minutes hike and I’d guess inaccessible for three months of the year in Winter. It’s not marked from the path so you do need to know where to look, even though it’s been highlighted on Google Maps and mobile coverage up there.
It’s been years since I posted pictures on here, If I can be lazy and link to my Instagram. (I’ll get the computer out if anyone wants me to post pictures here)
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7OvvNdDoGe/?igshid=i1...
There’s what I assume to be the tail box section, a landing gear (with hydraulic strut) and bits of engine still there. There’s some sheet metal that I assume to be from the tail body. It’s a good 90 minutes hike and I’d guess inaccessible for three months of the year in Winter. It’s not marked from the path so you do need to know where to look, even though it’s been highlighted on Google Maps and mobile coverage up there.
It’s been years since I posted pictures on here, If I can be lazy and link to my Instagram. (I’ll get the computer out if anyone wants me to post pictures here)
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7OvvNdDoGe/?igshid=i1...
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