Rape Gang - How'd they get away with it for so long?
Rape Gang - How'd they get away with it for so long?
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Countdown

48,304 posts

222 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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jas xjr said:
they were my best customers
They may well have been. Lots of "Muslims" drink, but if they were regularly drink driving I'd expect at least some of them to get caught/arrested. Wouldn't you?

Mermaid

21,492 posts

197 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Countdown said:
They may well have been. Lots of "Muslims" drink, but if they were regularly drink driving I'd expect at least some of them to get caught/arrested. Wouldn't you?
I have no idea, but would be appalled at the idea of taxi drivers drink/driving.

Of course many Muslims drink, and why not.

Countdown

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Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Mermaid said:
I have no idea, but would be appalled at the idea of taxi drivers drink/driving.
Me too. Maybe they were doing it at the end of a shift / after work like most people do (so not necessarily drink driving).

jas xjr

11,309 posts

265 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Countdown said:
Mermaid said:
I have no idea, but would be appalled at the idea of taxi drivers drink/driving.
Me too. Maybe they were doing it at the end of a shift / after work like most people do (so not necessarily drink driving).
from what i saw , whilst waiting for jobs

Mermaid

21,492 posts

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Tuesday 18th June 2013
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jas xjr said:
Countdown said:
Mermaid said:
I have no idea, but would be appalled at the idea of taxi drivers drink/driving.
Me too. Maybe they were doing it at the end of a shift / after work like most people do (so not necessarily drink driving).
from what i saw , whilst waiting for jobs
Have used many Pakistani taxi drivers over the years, and have never encountered intoxicated drivers. But I am sure they exist, as there are airline pilots who drink before they fly. And of course in the wider population.

Edited by Mermaid on Tuesday 18th June 18:38

Countdown

48,304 posts

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Tuesday 18th June 2013
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jas xjr said:
Countdown said:
Mermaid said:
I have no idea, but would be appalled at the idea of taxi drivers drink/driving.
Me too. Maybe they were doing it at the end of a shift / after work like most people do (so not necessarily drink driving).
from what i saw , whilst waiting for jobs
Waiting at a cab rank drinking alcohol? Given how public these places tend to be I'm surprised they didn't get caught ...

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Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Mermaid said:
Have used many Pakistani taxi drivers over the years, and have never encountered intoxicated drivers. But I am sure they exist, as there are airline pilots who drink before they fly. And if course the wider population.
But isn't there a difference between a drunk bloke hoping to drive home alone without being caught and a bloke drinking in open sight , picking up customers who might notice/report him, and knowing he's going to be on the road for up to 12 hours (thereby increasing the chZnce of being stopped by BIB or having a crash)???

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Tuesday 18th June 2013
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jas xjr said:
from what i saw , whilst waiting for jobs
I thought you were in the shop, serving them....

Mermaid

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Tuesday 18th June 2013
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So what was this thread all about?

Pickled Piper

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261 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Mermaid said:
So what was this thread all about?
It's about derailing any objective discussion on teh matter.

singlecoil

35,817 posts

272 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Pickled Piper said:
Mermaid said:
So what was this thread all about?
It's about derailing any objective discussion on teh matter.
According to some posters there hasn't been any objective discussion since the thread started. According to them, everybody has an axe to grind.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

265 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Countdown said:
jas xjr said:
from what i saw , whilst waiting for jobs
I thought you were in the shop, serving them....
i was located on a corner , their cars were parked on the side street

Mermaid

21,492 posts

197 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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singlecoil said:
According to some posters there hasn't been any objective discussion since the thread started. According to them, everybody has an axe to grind.
Those same posters will even question the need to start the thread.

Bill

57,992 posts

281 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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Don't be such a drama queen, people are just disagreeing in the cause of the problem.

Personally I think the whole 'muslim community' thing is distracting us from the fact that these girls (and others like them who haven't been taken by these gangs but are out on the streets turning tricks for pennies) have been comprehensively failed by the system that was meant to be caring for them.

Pickled Piper

6,451 posts

261 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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I heard a late night interview on Radio 4 a few weeks back. The interviewer was speaking with a local Councillor in one of the areas where a gang had just been convicted. The Councillor was Muslim and this was obviously the reason she had been invited and accepted the interview. Throughout the interview she was adamant that the ethnicity, religious and cultural affiliations of the convicted gang members showed no correlation. The interviewer reeled off case after case, pointing out that there were several sets of brothers, but still she was adamant and steadfastly denied any link. Her answer was that the correlating factors were that the perps all worked in the "night time economy", as taxi drivers and kebab shop workers and understandably they socialised with others that worked in the same sectors.

He point was that the perps should be identified as private hire vehicle operators and late night, fast food (meat based) operatives.

Edited by Pickled Piper on Wednesday 19th June 10:27

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

258 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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Pickled Piper said:
I fast food (meat based) operatives.
biglaugh Is that an actual category or did you add it for comedy purposes?

andymadmak

15,445 posts

296 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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Pickled Piper said:
I heard a late night interview on Radio 4 a few weeks back. The interviewer was speaking with a local Councillor in one of the areas where a gang had just been convicted. The Councillor was Muslim and this was obviously the reason she had been invited and accepted the interview. Throughout the interview she was adamant that the ethnicity, religious and cultural affiliations of the convicted gang members showed no correlation. The interviewer reeled off case after case, pointing out that there were several sets of brothers, but still she was adamant and steadfastly denied any link. Her answer was that the correlating factors were that the perps all worked in the "night time economy", as taxi drivers and kebab shop workers and understandably they socialised with others that worked in the same sectors.
Well, she might be right. That might be the factor. It is certainly worth considering, along with the other potential factors identified so far.
We won't know for sure until we examine all the potential factors..... which we cannot do because some people are sensitive about some of the potential factors being subjected to examination. Mind you, I suspect that other members of the night time economy might object then!

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

258 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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Yay. Let's have a 104 page thread on whether people who work in the night time economy (meat and transport based) should be responsible for ousting their own rapists.

Fantic SuperT

887 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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So, can we summarize the answer to this thread yet? The original question was: "How'd they get away with it for so long?"

Are night workers such as taxi drivers and kebab shop staff less likely to be investigated by the Police when serious crimes are committed?
Or was there some other factor?

IainT

10,040 posts

264 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
Yay. Let's have a 104 page thread on whether people who work in the night time economy (meat and transport based) should be responsible for ousting their own rapists.
If one were to work in the night time mean and transport based economy and were aware of others you associate with, due to also being in the meat and transport [night time] community then of course they bloody well should be outing them to the authorities.

Same way that if I, in my rural community, were aware of someone abusing children would have an absolute duty to go to the police.

Would there be a problem if, in my rural community, there was a statistically significant elevation in the instances of abuse? Of course there would be and it'd need addressing and clearly my rural community would have a responsibility there.
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