944 S2 increasing in value?

[Strawman]

Yeah but what is commonly referred to as the S2 (3l and 2.7L engine) has further changes to the oval dash model like the turbo front grill/bumper/spoiler, I owned an '88 ventilier, pic in profile.

[GC8]

The S2 is a model and the 2.7l car is a series two, as is every 944 built from September 1985.

[mickyveloce]

Whatever the market worth, buy a good one and treasure it for what it is.
A good early 944 will bring as much pleasure as a good late 944, given that neither are in the first flush of youth.
If you need huge performance, you're probably looking in the wrong place, but as a relevant cost effective beautifully engineered piece of 80s history, they're great.
I had a mint, 1984 early 944 some while ago, and it was considerably easier and more pleasant to drive than a 924 carrera gt I subsequently owned.
Timeless and pure design.

[GC8]

Strawman said:

Yeah but what is commonly referred to as the S2 (3l and 2.7L engine) has further changes to the oval dash model like the turbo front grill/bumper/spoiler, I owned an '88 ventilier, pic in profile.

Btw: ventiller means valve in German. 16 Ventiller wing trims were available on the S as a cost option, but 16 Ventiller or Ventiller isnt a model name.

[GC8]

Whilst Im busting myths: Lux is a trim level, not a model!

[GC8]

And the 968 was a series three, not an S3.

[Strawman]

GC8 said:

Btw: ventiller means valve in German.

I knew that, not sure what your point is, I always thought the 944 I owned was a 944S and not an S2. Carfoliio lists the model as that, as did the logbook, are/were they wrong too? The badge on the back said 944 S as well, I'm sure it was OEM.

[GC8]

My point is that S2 and series two arent the same thing. People incorrectly refer to the 1989-1991 944S2 as 'the series two' mistakenly believing that this is what its model name refers to, but it doesnt.

The S in 944S and 944S2 stands for Super. Both are series two 944s.

All 944s built before August 1985 are series one models and all 944s built after August 1985 are series two models, be they 2.5l, 2.7l, S, S2 or Turbo.

[Strawman]

Fair enough.

[SidewaysSi]

I have always loved the look of the 944 and 968. Nearly bought a CS or a tricked 944 with cage/diff etc. at the end of last year. In the end it didn't seem special enough so pulled out at the last minute.

Lovely cars as a sole car but missing spark as a weekend warrior I feel.

[Strawman]

SidewaysSi said:

Lovely cars as a sole car but missing spark as a weekend warrior I feel.

You can four wheel drift them going around a corner, which is worth the entry price alone IMO, plus the feel of the gear shift, steering e.t.c.

[SidewaysSi]

Strawman said:

You can four wheel drift them going around a corner, which is worth the entry price alone IMO, plus the feel of the gear shift, steering e.t.c.

Maybe-the feel better of all the controls was very weighty but I would have wanted more steering feel and less mass to haul around.

I do like them but I found the running costs hard to justify. All IMO of course.

[DubZeus]

Marc p said:

I just bought a 944 S2 in Guards red, I looked at the Boxster aswell as they were a bit cheaper, but the driving experience in the 944 is just awesome and blew the Boxster away when it came to driving involvement, I have wanted one since I was 3 years old and as the saying goes 'never meet your heros', I was worried that the car wasn't going to be that good.........but christ, it is better than I could ever have expected, when I sold my MX5 a couple of years back, I doubted that another car would ever be as good in the 'fun factor' department, well, the 944 has it aswell!

Mine is at 105,000 now after getting back from a trip through France and what would I sell it for? I wouldn't take less the £7k for it, it's rust free and immaculate inside and out(even though it's the linen leather interior). I don't intend on letting go of it though.

Oh and the Integra Type R comment, put some fresh suspension on the 944 and the Integra wouldn't have a hope in hells chance of keeping up, If you left on 24 year old suspension, they are about the same, the 944 S2 would have it in a straight line though(p.s. I have had a B18 Teg Type R so have a good understanding of them).

Thank you, I was abit worried about meeting your hero's bit.

[SidewaysSi]

Are you sure re. the ITR? Very different cars but I would not say there is much in straight line performance. Which has the better engine and is the better drive is up for debate.

[s m]

Strawman said:

You can four wheel drift them going around a corner, which is worth the entry price alone IMO, plus the feel of the gear shift, steering e.t.c.

At least a couple of tyre companies used 944s as test mules in the mid 80s as they have well balanced handling

[HAB]

SidewaysSi said:

Are you sure re. the ITR? Very different cars but I would not say there is much in straight line performance. Which has the better engine and is the better drive is up for debate.

S2 0-60 6.0, 0-100 15.5, 150max. Great midrange too. Pretty sure this is a bit quicker than an ITR?

mickyveloce said:

I had a mint, 1984 early 944 some while ago, and it was considerably easier and more pleasant to drive than a 924 carrera gt I subsequently owned.
Timeless and pure design.

Me too, I also had an S2. Much preferred the early dash car. Drive of the 944 bunch imo.

[Fat Albert]

GC8 said:

bigunit00 said:

i think the fact that only 179 RHD 968 CSs were delivered to UK helps keep the price differential where it is over a Sport

You may be right, but I believe that it is the '968CS myth', which I dont subscribe to as a 968CS owner in the early nineties.

The is a 968CS bandwagon, I think, propelled by more recent owners.

The Sports came out of the factory as CS's!!!! (they have CS chassis numbers) they were just specced differently for the niche UK market by the dealers

A 968 is about 10-15% better than an S2, if that is worth the price premium then go for a 968 otherwise an S2 is a fine car.

The 944T, however, is a different beastie and I really missed that effortless surge of torque when I swapped mine for the 968S...and still miss it now in my XK8, I imagine a 968 turbo is a beautiful thing

[GC8]

I was appreciating it today.

[Alex]

HAB said:

SidewaysSi said:

Are you sure re. the ITR? Very different cars but I would not say there is much in straight line performance. Which has the better engine and is the better drive is up for debate.

S2 0-60 6.0, 0-100 15.5, 150max. Great midrange too. Pretty sure this is a bit quicker than an ITR?

DC2 0-60 6.7, 0-100 16.8, 145mph max.

So, on paper the 944 S2 is quicker in a straight line. However, what the ITR has, and I choose my words carefully, is an astonishing chassis and exceptional brakes, out of the box.

[motor mad]

As with pretty much every car comparison or "vs" thread it's all down to the drivers. I've had shoe boxes come past me on track days when my car should be x seconds quicker.

Evo summed up the Integra. ‘It’s a car as sweet and all-consuming as any I’ve experienced at any price, and as pure and focused in its own way as any Porsche RS. Forget the accolade of greatest front-wheel-drive car. The Integra Type-R ranks as one of the truly great drivers’ cars of any kind.’

Back to the topic - Porsche 944 S2's are cracking cars.