997 turbo totally screwed up.
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AndrewMontgomery said:
Said he didn't sleep a wink and looked it. I think he was afraid I'd b
k him to the AA and get him in serious trouble. But I wouldn't do that to someone for an innocent mistake. We both learnt from it. Left him on good terms and I think relief would be more like it.
You have a respect that's rare in this modern age - I take my hat off to you. Best of luck getting the situation sorted.k him to the AA and get him in serious trouble. But I wouldn't do that to someone for an innocent mistake. We both learnt from it. Left him on good terms and I think relief would be more like it.
Update is that I will need an ignition control unit (about £120) - I suspect this is what the initial no start problem was. Will also however need an electronic master control unit (about £225) which caused all of the other madness. Total with labour is likely to come in around £680 if nothing else is wrong. OPC say the failure of both is unique in their experience.
Will ask them the cause of the master control failure (ie was it the AA actions) and consider my options but unless they tell me that definitely caused it I won't take it any further and put it down to experience. Can't see how just disconnecting a battery would wreck it myself.
Will ask them the cause of the master control failure (ie was it the AA actions) and consider my options but unless they tell me that definitely caused it I won't take it any further and put it down to experience. Can't see how just disconnecting a battery would wreck it myself.
all things considered given the symptons £600 seems pretty reasonable!
I had water get into the main power control unit (sensibly situated in the lowest point of the boot...) on my BMW 550i which pretty much gave the car a mental break down (wipers stuck on intermittent, speedo and dash flicking on and off).
I had water get into the main power control unit (sensibly situated in the lowest point of the boot...) on my BMW 550i which pretty much gave the car a mental break down (wipers stuck on intermittent, speedo and dash flicking on and off).
highway said:
If Porsche have never known this issue occur before and assuming you have OPC history I'd like to think they will offer sizeable goodwill here. If they don't, ask. If the dealer is unreasonable then straight to Porsche GB.
OPC in Belfast have never known it to happen before but no idea if Porsche themselves have. Given that I didn't buy the car from them I can't push too hard with them but will certainly have a go at Porsche GB - on safety grounds if nothing else.w5pwr said:
I took the battery out of my 997 Turbo a couple times when I had to change battery without any particular care and never had any symptoms you describe.....
Me too. Fitted a new battery recently, didn't follow the recommeneded process entirely and no problem. Only error - PASM, reset itself after ten feet of driving.julian64 said:
I've not been in a car where the electrics were required to release me from the inside of the car.
Somewhat dangerous in an accident.
Sounds so doesn't it but I understand it is quiten common. I know that my VW deadlocks so that it can't be opened from outside, even if a window is smashed. That implies that you couldn't open the door from inside without full power.Somewhat dangerous in an accident.
REALIST123 said:
julian64 said:
I've not been in a car where the electrics were required to release me from the inside of the car.
Somewhat dangerous in an accident.
Sounds so doesn't it but I understand it is quiten common. I know that my VW deadlocks so that it can't be opened from outside, even if a window is smashed. That implies that you couldn't open the door from inside without full power.Somewhat dangerous in an accident.
mrmr96 said:
REALIST123 said:
julian64 said:
I've not been in a car where the electrics were required to release me from the inside of the car.
Somewhat dangerous in an accident.
Sounds so doesn't it but I understand it is quiten common. I know that my VW deadlocks so that it can't be opened from outside, even if a window is smashed. That implies that you couldn't open the door from inside without full power.Somewhat dangerous in an accident.
Can you imagine the class action in America from people trapped in cars after accidents? Unquantifiable harm, but very lucrative law suits are us.
I just don't believe in this day and age a car doesn't have an internal manual release for the door.
julian64 said:
mrmr96 said:
REALIST123 said:
julian64 said:
I've not been in a car where the electrics were required to release me from the inside of the car.
Somewhat dangerous in an accident.
Sounds so doesn't it but I understand it is quiten common. I know that my VW deadlocks so that it can't be opened from outside, even if a window is smashed. That implies that you couldn't open the door from inside without full power.Somewhat dangerous in an accident.
Can you imagine the class action in America from people trapped in cars after accidents? Unquantifiable harm, but very lucrative law suits are us.
I just don't believe in this day and age a car doesn't have an internal manual release for the door.
He finally managed to pull a rear seat down and fish my keys from the boot through the frameless window or I'd have had to wait 4 hours for the wife to bring the spare key 160miles!
REALIST123 said:
I absolutely agree with you both, I'm just saying what my VW seems to be. I locked myself out once and had to call out VW rescue. After a fruitless attempt to pick the door lock I suggested he broke a front window and was told it wouldn't help as we wouldn't be able to open the door anyway.
He finally managed to pull a rear seat down and fish my keys from the boot through the frameless window or I'd have had to wait 4 hours for the wife to bring the spare key 160miles!
This is the quandary I had on Sunday. Except that I was in the car. Obviously no boot option but the wife was only 40 miles away rather than 160 so ran with that one. I can't imagine there is much air entering a 911 cabin either and its not the largest volume of air either. Toyed with the idea of putting the keys around a bent-out frameless window and would have done so if no plan A available with the wife. Plan C was smashing the window. Slightly unsettling experience.He finally managed to pull a rear seat down and fish my keys from the boot through the frameless window or I'd have had to wait 4 hours for the wife to bring the spare key 160miles!
AMG Merc said:
Bottom line is you need to pull the door handle twice to exit from the inside - dunno why 
Yes, but what we are discussing is that apparently this doesn't work if there is an ignition or key failure.I was out in the wife's Z4 this afternoon. Key in the ignition, pull the handle twice and the door unlocks. Lock the car with the key out of the ignition and it doesn't. When you pull the handle the button on the door lifts but drops straight back in when you release the handle.
It would appear that being locked inside is a possibility in all three cars we have, though a key or ECU failure is unlikely. Isn't it?
REALIST123 said:
AMG Merc said:
Bottom line is you need to pull the door handle twice to exit from the inside - dunno why
Yes, but what we are discussing is that apparently this doesn't work if there is an ignition or key failure.I was out in the wife's Z4 this afternoon. Key in the ignition, pull the handle twice and the door unlocks. Lock the car with the key out of the ignition and it doesn't. When you pull the handle the button on the door lifts but drops straight back in when you release the handle.
It would appear that being locked inside is a possibility in all three cars we have, though a key or ECU failure is unlikely. Isn't it?
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