Above average miles commute - what do you drive?
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56 mile round trip so less than many here, but a nice mix of flowing A and B roads, a quick hop down the M58 and a little bit of city grind at the end. Usually in the office by 7:30am to avoid the worst of the traffic both ways.
Lucky to have the choice between Octavia VRS, Saab 900 t16s and the Monaro at the moment.
Try to use the Octavia 3 days per week as it is the most economical, and if I go with the traffic flow and use hypermiling techniques I see an indicated 47mpg average quite frequently (about 43 actual).
The Saab and Monaro get driven more enthusiastically, but due to the largely flowing nature of my commute, I can still see 25mpg and 29mpg on a typical day.
Lucky to have the choice between Octavia VRS, Saab 900 t16s and the Monaro at the moment.
Try to use the Octavia 3 days per week as it is the most economical, and if I go with the traffic flow and use hypermiling techniques I see an indicated 47mpg average quite frequently (about 43 actual).
The Saab and Monaro get driven more enthusiastically, but due to the largely flowing nature of my commute, I can still see 25mpg and 29mpg on a typical day.
phib said:
155 miles a day in a 730d, bought it with 35k on the clock now has 120k on the clock and has been good as gold, cant really think of anything to change it for thats as good and gets decent mpg ( except the new 730/740) which no doubt i will buy in time
Phib
Great shout. What MPG's are you getting? (And on what type of road and speed?)Phib
daemon said:
scarble said:
Yea those PD engines are bomb proof.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=112...
oh.
Don't take "only affects XXX engine code" for gospel as the list can get longer if you google around.
eta: Have to say, I completely abhor autos and cruise and aircon and any form of comfort in cars, but after a year my right knee sometimes had a slight ache.
Yes, an auto would be a good idea in the long term too. The Fiat is a great wee thing. I took it as a trade in (i motor trade part time), it goes like a train and starts with half a turn of the key every morning. Wont win any beauty awards, but who cares?http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=112...
oh.
Don't take "only affects XXX engine code" for gospel as the list can get longer if you google around.
eta: Have to say, I completely abhor autos and cruise and aircon and any form of comfort in cars, but after a year my right knee sometimes had a slight ache.
Had 170k miles under it's belt and felt like it would run forever.
I'm not going to make any friends with this... My commute is 80 miles, mostly done at between 90-120mph in a C63AMG.
Oh... It's from Dubai to Abu Dhabi and I have to fill up every day and a half. For GBP 18. As I said... not going to make any friends with that, but you did ask the question!
Oh... It's from Dubai to Abu Dhabi and I have to fill up every day and a half. For GBP 18. As I said... not going to make any friends with that, but you did ask the question!
mrmr96 said:
phib said:
155 miles a day in a 730d, bought it with 35k on the clock now has 120k on the clock and has been good as gold, cant really think of anything to change it for thats as good and gets decent mpg ( except the new 730/740) which no doubt i will buy in time
Phib
Great shout. What MPG's are you getting? (And on what type of road and speed?)Phib
35 miles M25 chertsey - A1
15 miles A1
10 miles fast dual carriage way
10 miles A road
Leave at 6am in for 7.15/7.30 leave at 7.30 home for 8.45 /9pm
The trip computer says 32.8 mpg over the last c. 50k miles, in the first 50ish k it was 33.8 ( from memory)
also did this journey in :
Porsche 997 2s 28mpg ( 60,000 miles)
Porsche 997 2s Gen 1 28mpg ( 60,000 miles)
BMW 535d 32mpg ( for 6 weeks hateful thing !!)
Porsche 996 26mpg ( 80,00 miles)
Porsche 996 gt2 27mpg (3,000 miles went wrong !!)
Porsche 993 26mpg ( 60,000 miles)
Massrati granturismo 4.2 27mpg ( 30,000 miles)
Subaru wrx prodrive 25mpg ( 110,000 miles)
Defender v8 about 14mpg ( once !!!)
355 once !! ( have no idea)
Phib
daemon said:
Currently have an 02 120K Fiat Marea JTD thats superbly reliable and averaging 44mpg.
Glad you're pleased with the Marea. You're normally one of the loudest "Boohoo all modern diesels are rubbish, the injectors/EGR/DMF is GUARANTEED to break blah blah blah" contributors on anti-diesel threads, so hopefully this car will change your mind. The 1.9 JTD is the same common rail engine used in mid-noughties Vauxhalls, right?DannyT said:
I'm not going to make any friends with this... My commute is 80 miles, mostly done at between 90-120mph in a C63AMG.
Oh... It's from Dubai to Abu Dhabi and I have to fill up every day and a half. For GBP 18. As I said... not going to make any friends with that, but you did ask the question!
Interesting that you have a huge commute in the UAE.Oh... It's from Dubai to Abu Dhabi and I have to fill up every day and a half. For GBP 18. As I said... not going to make any friends with that, but you did ask the question!
My commute here in Dubai is about 3 miles each way, before I came here I was commuting 138 miles each way in a variety of cars, best of which was 80k or so in a WRX.... almost all B roads as well!
excel monkey said:
daemon said:
Currently have an 02 120K Fiat Marea JTD thats superbly reliable and averaging 44mpg.
Glad you're pleased with the Marea. You're normally one of the loudest "Boohoo all modern diesels are rubbish, the injectors/EGR/DMF is GUARANTEED to break blah blah blah" contributors on anti-diesel threads, so hopefully this car will change your mind. The 1.9 JTD is the same common rail engine used in mid-noughties Vauxhalls, right?As i said on the other thread, its anything under 10 years old that starts to worry me because thats when they started to try to refine diesels with DMFs and anti pollution devices.
Besides if there is a 'major' failure, i can only 'lose' the price i paid for the car minus the £200 scrap value i'd get for it, so not going to be a big hill of beans
Not so cheap to do that in an 07 vectra with a rattly DMF and the DPF anti pollution light on.
Used a Astra Sporthatch 1.7cdti when I commuted from Orpington to Reading/Kingston daily.
I used to average 55mpg at 80ish (OBC) but if taking it easy could get it to 60mpg ish. It was perfect for the job until it imploded at 90k miles after 3 years of ownership, at 4 years old so I part-exed it.
I used to average 55mpg at 80ish (OBC) but if taking it easy could get it to 60mpg ish. It was perfect for the job until it imploded at 90k miles after 3 years of ownership, at 4 years old so I part-exed it.
excel monkey said:
daemon said:
Currently have an 02 120K Fiat Marea JTD thats superbly reliable and averaging 44mpg.
Glad you're pleased with the Marea. You're normally one of the loudest "Boohoo all modern diesels are rubbish, the injectors/EGR/DMF is GUARANTEED to break blah blah blah" contributors on anti-diesel threads, so hopefully this car will change your mind. The 1.9 JTD is the same common rail engine used in mid-noughties Vauxhalls, right?kiethton said:
Used a Astra Sporthatch 1.7cdti when I commuted from Orpington to Reading/Kingston daily.
I used to average 55mpg at 80ish (OBC) but if taking it easy could get it to 60mpg ish. It was perfect for the job until it imploded at 90k miles after 3 years of ownership, at 4 years old so I part-exed it.
I used to average 55mpg at 80ish (OBC) but if taking it easy could get it to 60mpg ish. It was perfect for the job until it imploded at 90k miles after 3 years of ownership, at 4 years old so I part-exed it.
What happened to this - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Surely that would be pretty much the perfect car for a long commute?
Surely that would be pretty much the perfect car for a long commute?
va1o said:
What happened to this - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Surely that would be pretty much the perfect car for a long commute?
Up for sale.Surely that would be pretty much the perfect car for a long commute?
Not terribly economical - averaging early 30's. I may use it a bit until its sold, but i dont want to tie up cash from my part time business into my daily commuter.
daemon said:
Up for sale.
Not terribly economical - averaging early 30's. I may use it a bit until its sold, but i dont want to tie up cash from my part time business into my daily commuter.
Oh right. Worth trying though I think as the 530d will be significantly better than the Fiat for NVH. When you spend 2hrs upwards a day in the car it makes a difference IMO. Not terribly economical - averaging early 30's. I may use it a bit until its sold, but i dont want to tie up cash from my part time business into my daily commuter.
daemon said:
excel monkey said:
daemon said:
Currently have an 02 120K Fiat Marea JTD thats superbly reliable and averaging 44mpg.
Glad you're pleased with the Marea. You're normally one of the loudest "Boohoo all modern diesels are rubbish, the injectors/EGR/DMF is GUARANTEED to break blah blah blah" contributors on anti-diesel threads, so hopefully this car will change your mind. The 1.9 JTD is the same common rail engine used in mid-noughties Vauxhalls, right?kiethton said:
Used a Astra Sporthatch 1.7cdti when I commuted from Orpington to Reading/Kingston daily.
I used to average 55mpg at 80ish (OBC) but if taking it easy could get it to 60mpg ish. It was perfect for the job until it imploded at 90k miles after 3 years of ownership, at 4 years old so I part-exed it.
I used to average 55mpg at 80ish (OBC) but if taking it easy could get it to 60mpg ish. It was perfect for the job until it imploded at 90k miles after 3 years of ownership, at 4 years old so I part-exed it.
Hot start problem which wouldn't be cured with sensor changes - £unknown
Injector replacment all around - £££££
Cambelt due within 4 months - ££££
Brakes due all-round (rear was origional and still on original front disc's) - £300
So decided to cut my losses, use man maths, and trade it in when driving from cold againt my old 335i, cutting £1k in the private/Part-ex value.
va1o said:
daemon said:
Up for sale.
Not terribly economical - averaging early 30's. I may use it a bit until its sold, but i dont want to tie up cash from my part time business into my daily commuter.
Oh right. Worth trying though I think as the 530d will be significantly better than the Fiat for NVH. When you spend 2hrs upwards a day in the car it makes a difference IMO. Not terribly economical - averaging early 30's. I may use it a bit until its sold, but i dont want to tie up cash from my part time business into my daily commuter.
Just cant justify what would be effectively taking the cash 'out' of my business to use that.
ATWRX said:
Only problem with such threads is that you only ever hear/read of the problems, there's not many people start off threads on forums or conversations where the topic is titled "well, I went to work today and the car didn't break down again". Just think of how small that percentage of cars in that thread is compared to when has actually been produced (millions).
But in the automotive industry we measure failures in parts per million and anything over 0 is considered a f**k up and anything over 3 is considered a serious f**k up, particularly if it results in bent rods and holes through the block.On the subject of automatics that's not necessary for a well timed motorway commute. You'll have the odd day where there's an accident or it rains a little bit and everything grinds to a halt but it's the right leg that gets the strain from constantly modulating and/or holding in one place the accelerator, that's where CC comes in handy.
I think the Marea has a certain weird European charm to it
If you want something that's manual but has CC and aircon and auto lights and other niceties on a budget get an old top-trim Clio, called the 172 or 182
Edited by scarble on Wednesday 19th June 12:41
daemon said:
va1o said:
daemon said:
Up for sale.
Not terribly economical - averaging early 30's. I may use it a bit until its sold, but i dont want to tie up cash from my part time business into my daily commuter.
Oh right. Worth trying though I think as the 530d will be significantly better than the Fiat for NVH. When you spend 2hrs upwards a day in the car it makes a difference IMO. Not terribly economical - averaging early 30's. I may use it a bit until its sold, but i dont want to tie up cash from my part time business into my daily commuter.
Just cant justify what would be effectively taking the cash 'out' of my business to use that.
scarble said:
If you want something that's manual but has CC and aircon and auto lights and other niceties on a budget get an old top-trim Clio, called the 172 or 182
I do a 184 mile round commute , 95% of which is motorways, in a clio 182, fortunately only once or twice a week. I wouldn't recommend it mainly because the seats are awful, otherwise i think it's ok, i get 40-42mpg and been very reliable over the last 40k miles - although i think most cars would be with this sort of commute.Edited by scarble on Wednesday 19th June 12:41
Looking to change it now as i have arthritis in me back, which doesn't mix well with the uncomfortable seats!
Grandfondo said:
daemon said:
va1o said:
daemon said:
Up for sale.
Not terribly economical - averaging early 30's. I may use it a bit until its sold, but i dont want to tie up cash from my part time business into my daily commuter.
Oh right. Worth trying though I think as the 530d will be significantly better than the Fiat for NVH. When you spend 2hrs upwards a day in the car it makes a difference IMO. Not terribly economical - averaging early 30's. I may use it a bit until its sold, but i dont want to tie up cash from my part time business into my daily commuter.
Just cant justify what would be effectively taking the cash 'out' of my business to use that.
I would be a bit afraid of it though, in terms of big bills. Plus as i said, i cant really justify the outlay out of the business for it.
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