Hanging is too good . Kuwait .

[TheHeretic]

rohrl said:

Anyone who advocates the reintroduction of the death penalty ought to read up on some of the UK's miscarriages of justice.

Start with Stefan Kiszko - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lesley_Mols...

Do people really trust the justice system with life and death?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerated_de...

[elster]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Didn't they hang the girl who was raped, for bringing shame on her family? They must be going soft!

No, normally it is lashes or other such violent punishments.

[aw51 121565]

rohrl said:

Anyone who advocates the reintroduction of the death penalty ought to read up on some of the UK's miscarriages of justice.

Start with Stefan Kiszko - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lesley_Mols...

Thank you, saved me posting this .

[Finlandia]

rohrl said:

Anyone who advocates the reintroduction of the death penalty ought to read up on some of the UK's miscarriages of justice.

Start with Stefan Kiszko - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lesley_Mols...

It can be debated whether the death penalty would have been any worse than becoming mentally ill from being locked up for 16 years and to finally die as a broken man.

Personally I would have opted for the quicker death.

[Oakey]

mikial said:

Why ? I like it here , away from individuals similar to you .

No crime in the Philippines then?

[wolves_wanderer]

It is a rich irony that every other thread is moaning about Muslims but people seemingly cant get enough of mutilating thieves and stringing up people tortured into confessions.

If Al Qaeda are watching, rebrand yourselves as the party of law and order. Pistonheads readers will have the black flag over Downing St by next week.

[rohrl]

Finlandia said:

rohrl said:

Anyone who advocates the reintroduction of the death penalty ought to read up on some of the UK's miscarriages of justice.

Start with Stefan Kiszko - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lesley_Mols...

It can be debated whether the death penalty would have been any worse than becoming mentally ill from being locked up for 16 years and to finally die as a broken man.

Personally I would have opted for the quicker death.

Well just about anything can be debated.

If Stefan Kiszko's case didn't persuade you of the folly of capital punishment try Colin Stagg - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Rachel_Nick...

[wolves_wanderer]

With 100% clear up rate good, honest company directors can sleep safe in their mansions. These visionaries have much to teach our lazy forces of so-called justice

[Rovinghawk]

WeirdNeville said:

That and the fact it makes all of us complicit in Barbarism.

Killing someone needn't be barbaric; it can be done in a clinical, civilised manner, eg lethal injection.

Just because you disapprove doesn't make it barbarism.

[wolves_wanderer]

Rovinghawk said:

Killing someone needn't be barbaric; it can be done in a clinical, civilised manner, eg lethal injection.

Just because you disapprove doesn't make it barbarism.

The barbarism isn't the method its the outcome. (leaving alone all the times that lethal injection has worked less than perfectly).

[Rovinghawk]

Sometimes the only thing you can do with a mad dog is to kill it. There's an argument that some people are the same.

[anonymous-user]

Rovinghawk said:

Killing someone needn't be barbaric; it can be done in a clinical, civilised manner, eg lethal injection.

Just because you disapprove doesn't make it barbarism.

There's nothing civilised about the lethal injection.

[TheHeretic]

Rovinghawk said:

Killing someone needn't be barbaric; it can be done in a clinical, civilised manner, eg lethal injection.

Just because you disapprove doesn't make it barbarism.

Except when said civilised way has evidence that it is in fact an utterly horrible way to die.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7269-executi...

[Dr Doofenshmirtz]

You only have to spend 10 minutes on bestgore.com [Warning: nasty stuff in there] to realise that hanging is pretty horrendous in a civilised society (which is what the UK is, compared so some parts of the world) and doesn't solve the problem.

[StottyZr]

rohrl said:

Anyone who advocates the reintroduction of the death penalty ought to read up on some of the UK's miscarriages of justice.

Start with Stefan Kiszko - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lesley_Mols...

Surely the problem here lies with the justice system and not the ideology of the death penalty.

Its a seperate issue.

[Finlandia]

rohrl said:

Finlandia said:

rohrl said:

Anyone who advocates the reintroduction of the death penalty ought to read up on some of the UK's miscarriages of justice.

Start with Stefan Kiszko - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lesley_Mols...

It can be debated whether the death penalty would have been any worse than becoming mentally ill from being locked up for 16 years and to finally die as a broken man.

Personally I would have opted for the quicker death.

Well just about anything can be debated.

If Stefan Kiszko's case didn't persuade you of the folly of capital punishment try Colin Stagg - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Rachel_Nick...

As you said, anything can be debated.
A long prison sentence for a crime not committed vs. capital punishment for a crime not committed, both horrendous. Arguments against death penalty always quotes the "you cannot repay an innocent his life", but having been locked in for decades will have robbed you of your life in an even worse way, you will never be the same person again, no amount of compensation will buy your lost years back.

If I had the choice, put me down quick.

[bad company]

Rovinghawk said:

Killing someone needn't be barbaric; it can be done in a clinical, civilised manner, eg lethal injection.

Just because you disapprove doesn't make it barbarism.

Non of that answers the question of what if you execute somebody who is subsequently found not guilty?

[StottyZr]

TheHeretic said:

Rovinghawk said:

Killing someone needn't be barbaric; it can be done in a clinical, civilised manner, eg lethal injection.

Just because you disapprove doesn't make it barbarism.

Except when said civilised way has evidence that it is in fact an utterly horrible way to die.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7269-executi...

Surely that article points out that they need to increase the amounts of anaesthesia used to ensure the recipitant cannot feel.

They're doing it wrong, which is seperate issue.

[mikial]

Oakey said:

mikial said:

Why ? I like it here , away from individuals similar to you .

No crime in the Philippines then?

I don't recall saying there wasn't but since you've asked, in the corner of the world I'm situated in there's very little crime which is one of the reasons I chose to be here.

[TheHeretic]

StottyZr said:

Surely the problem here lies with the justice system and not the ideology of the death penalty.

Its a seperate issue.

When you can ensure the first one is 100% then the latter is surely wrong? Are you willing to allow innocent folk to be executed in order to have your execution?