Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 2]
Discussion
CraigyMc said:
Gizmoish said:
I understand the "yeah, I'd love to see 100m run in 5 secs if the athlete is willing to do it to themselves" point: it'd be awesome. But would you be happy to see that 5-second race if three competitors died during it? If the winner keeled over on the podium, or in the night afterwards because their heart couldn't pump their blood it was so thick with extra blood cells? Where there's money - and there would be money - poor kids from around the world would be persuaded to take a cocktail of drugs to make themselves amazing and provide for their families forever...
That sounds brilliant.I suggest the first competition is an ultimate-fighting style match.
C
goldblum said:
Shaolin said:
goldblum said:
Your analogy of poor kids being given a 'cocktail of drugs' is entirely sensationalist. Unless these poor kids showed exceptional genetic talent anyway no one would be remotely interested in them.
The pool of desperate enough poor kids is pretty large though.However the norm is it's elite athletes who take serious PEDs, or in the case of cycling it's most pros on the Euro circuit (this was the case a couple of years ago... I can't imagine much has changed).
What's very interesting is the number of amateur athletes who are apparently taking EPO and similar in competitive rides and sportives...
Gizmoish said:
Do try and pay attention then. It's changing. Slowly.
A slow change doesn't really warrant too much 'attention' now, does it? Couldn't I just glance across every now and then? 
Amateurs taking erythropoietin not supplied by team doctors or at least not following an orthodox boosting protocol set by experienced sports doctors is an extremely risky business. I would have thought analogous transfusions were far safer. Human recombinant EPO was synthesised '87 so it's possible the price has come down far enough for the well-off amateur. Altitude training would also be far safer, but less convenient for an amateur. Shows how desperate people are to maintain a competitive edge, and why PED usage will never be eradicated.
goldblum said:
Gizmoish said:
Do try and pay attention then. It's changing. Slowly.
A slow change doesn't really warrant too much 'attention' now, does it? Couldn't I just glance across every now and then? Amateurs taking erythropoietin not supplied by team doctors or at least not following an orthodox boosting protocol set by experienced sports doctors is an extremely risky business. I would have thought analogous transfusions were far safer. Human recombinant EPO was synthesised '87 so it's possible the price has come down far enough for the well-off amateur. Altitude training would also be far safer, but less convenient for an amateur. Shows how desperate people are to maintain a competitive edge, and why PED usage will never be eradicated.
Gizmoish said:
Yeah seen that before, but thanks. Tokar said:
Why on building sites, where they are shifting tonnes of earth, do they have uprights of wood with cross members at the top, often in different colours?
I though it maybe for the grading or depth or something?
Its a throwback to the days when the mob ran construction-it marks where they buried the bodies. Different colours mark different types of hit:white for stool pigeons,green for cops, red for crooked politicians that got too greedy,etc. I though it maybe for the grading or depth or something?
goldblum said:
Gizmoish said:
Yeah seen that before, but thanks. 
Tokar said:
Why on building sites, where they are shifting tonnes of earth, do they have uprights of wood with cross members at the top, often in different colours?
I though it maybe for the grading or depth or something?
They are profile boards, and they'll come with a "traveller" which is another T shaped stick you'd carry around with you.I though it maybe for the grading or depth or something?
Each board would be set at about 1m above the finished target level, so pick a spot and put the traveller down, get in a position where you can see 2 profiles in the background and bend down so that the 2 pre-set boards are level with each other.
This will put your eye at exactly 1m above the target level, and you'll be able to see what that is like compared to the traveller to see if you need to build the area up, or grade it down a bit more.
OlberJ said:
If stealing from a shop requires you to leave the premises with the goods, what if you walked into Sainsburys, drank a case of beer and then went for a slash in the toilets before leaving suitably drunk.
Still theft?
Presumably, as most of the alchohol content was on (in) your person as you left the store.Still theft?
monthefish said:
OlberJ said:
If stealing from a shop requires you to leave the premises with the goods, what if you walked into Sainsburys, drank a case of beer and then went for a slash in the toilets before leaving suitably drunk.
Still theft?
Presumably, as most of the alchohol content was on (in) your person as you left the store.Still theft?
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