How much of a risk is a 986 Porsche Boxster?
Discussion
elephantstone said:
I just don't fancy a £1000 bill and my new pride and joy left useless on the drive.
If that is the case then, IMHO, you need to be looking elsewhere.To be honest even a Ford or a Vauxhall can leave you with a 4 figure bill these days.
I certainly wouldn't be looking at a Porsche if the prospect of a 1k bill is a problem for you.
Devil2575 said:
If that is the case then, IMHO, you need to be looking elsewhere.
To be honest even a Ford or a Vauxhall can leave you with a 4 figure bill these days.
I certainly wouldn't be looking at a Porsche if the prospect of a 1k bill is a problem for you.
Yeah ive just been speaking to a mate who works on "high end" cars. He says he wont sell 986 boxsters due to the warranty work being too much of a risk. Hes steered me towards the Z3 and Z4, I accept even on these two models the running costs will be slightly higher than a hatchback but the rewards are far greater!To be honest even a Ford or a Vauxhall can leave you with a 4 figure bill these days.
I certainly wouldn't be looking at a Porsche if the prospect of a 1k bill is a problem for you.
elephantstone said:
Could well get a 3.0 Z4 but the Z3 appeals to me aswell and you can get minter for my budget.
Maybe, but a Z4 is a much better car than a Z3.But given the choice of Z4 or Boxster, I'd take the Boxster. The Z4 has a decent engine (in 3.0 form)....but that's about it.
A lovely one popped up on my FB page yesterday, got to be worth a look!
https://www.facebook.com/HomelessCars
He's got a nice Z4 too.
https://www.facebook.com/HomelessCars
He's got a nice Z4 too.
zed4 said:
A lovely one popped up on my FB page yesterday, got to be worth a look!
https://www.facebook.com/HomelessCars
He's got a nice Z4 too.
The Z4 is lovely, I cant help but think I am not ready to own a Porsche. Id want the MK2 model ideally so will probs got for a beemer until I can afford to get the Porsche I really want..https://www.facebook.com/HomelessCars
He's got a nice Z4 too.
This thread is very much worth a read:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Only you can decide if the risk of expensive repairs is worth the pleasure of owning the thing...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Only you can decide if the risk of expensive repairs is worth the pleasure of owning the thing...
Devil2575 said:
300bhp/ton said:
Still pricey, but I bet you'd struggle to do the same thing to a Fiesta for less, which sort of puts it in relative terms.
I seriously doubt it.Initial diagnostic of why A/C fooked - £40
£110 for the compressor off ebay, fitted myself (took an hour or so)
Aircon regass another £40
So £190 all in. You can spend between £3-800 on a compressor alone depending on if it's remanufactured or new, and where you buy it from. I doubt Porsche make their own but you never know?
Just an example anyway, there's usualy a cheap(er) solution if you can do a bit of groundwork and mess about with thing.
Great cars anyway (Boxsters not Corrolas!)
300bhp/ton said:
Curious, but were did you source the parts and get the work done? Not saying either way is wrong, but there usually cheaper and more expensive ways of attaining the same result.
e.g.
condenser for £110
Rad for £113
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Porsche-986-Boxster-...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-911-996-BOXSTER-...
Of which I suspect most mechanics charging £25-35/hr would be more than capable of fitting (something you could even attempt yourself).
Lets say 6 hours work :@ £35/hr
Labour £210
Parts £223
Misc £90 (re-gas, clips, fluid, etc etc)
Still pricey, but I bet you'd struggle to do the same thing to a Fiesta for less, which sort of puts it in relative terms.
Not too mention there is always the possibility that it didn't need a new rad anyhow.
There was more work included in most of those. All the work was done by http://www.hpmotorsport.co.uk/ The parts were always reasonable I thought. If I'd not sold the car I would have all the receipts to check...e.g.
condenser for £110
Rad for £113
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Porsche-986-Boxster-...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-911-996-BOXSTER-...
Of which I suspect most mechanics charging £25-35/hr would be more than capable of fitting (something you could even attempt yourself).
Lets say 6 hours work :@ £35/hr
Labour £210
Parts £223
Misc £90 (re-gas, clips, fluid, etc etc)
Still pricey, but I bet you'd struggle to do the same thing to a Fiesta for less, which sort of puts it in relative terms.
Not too mention there is always the possibility that it didn't need a new rad anyhow.
N Dentressangle said:
This thread is very much worth a read:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Only you can decide if the risk of expensive repairs is worth the pleasure of owning the thing...
Everyone seems so happy with their poverty Porsche!!! arghh http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Only you can decide if the risk of expensive repairs is worth the pleasure of owning the thing...
schmalex said:
There are loads of Internet scare stories about the 986, but they're not that bad to run at all.
RMS is the main oft touted terror story. It is simply the seal betwixt engine and gearbox. If you are changing the cluth, it is about a £20 job. If you need to take the engine out to replace the RMS, it's a few hundred quid at an Indy (mainly for time taken to remove the engine). However, a slight weep from the seal is nothing really to worry about - just keep an eye on it. My old Box had an RMS weep for about 18 months and my (very well known) local Indy just advised to leave it and keep an eye on it u til I got the clutch changed.
They are pretty robust, really. Auxhillary rads can pick up some stone chips, but they are easily accessible. They are pretty sensitive to tracking being correct. Just use a good Indy and it will be no more expensive to run than a similar age BMW or Merc. In the 3 years I owned mine, it didn't cost any more than than the E39 it replaced to run.
The S also sounds heavenly when over about 3.5k rpm and is one of the composedm chuckable cars you will ever drive.
Genuine question here (Coming from the POV of knowing nothing about porsche engines). What does the RMS 'seal'? If it's between the engine and gearbox, why does it leak fluid? It's a dry clutch, so there shouldn't be oil sloshing around in there?RMS is the main oft touted terror story. It is simply the seal betwixt engine and gearbox. If you are changing the cluth, it is about a £20 job. If you need to take the engine out to replace the RMS, it's a few hundred quid at an Indy (mainly for time taken to remove the engine). However, a slight weep from the seal is nothing really to worry about - just keep an eye on it. My old Box had an RMS weep for about 18 months and my (very well known) local Indy just advised to leave it and keep an eye on it u til I got the clutch changed.
They are pretty robust, really. Auxhillary rads can pick up some stone chips, but they are easily accessible. They are pretty sensitive to tracking being correct. Just use a good Indy and it will be no more expensive to run than a similar age BMW or Merc. In the 3 years I owned mine, it didn't cost any more than than the E39 it replaced to run.
The S also sounds heavenly when over about 3.5k rpm and is one of the composedm chuckable cars you will ever drive.
TheRoadWarrior said:
Genuine question here (Coming from the POV of knowing nothing about porsche engines). What does the RMS 'seal'? If it's between the engine and gearbox, why does it leak fluid? It's a dry clutch, so there shouldn't be oil sloshing around in there?
Erm, engine oil!!!!It is the Rear Main Seal, hence RMS. It seals the crankshaft as it comes out of the back of the engine. Any leaks here drip down the bellhousing twixt engine & box. Various reasons for leakage, early engines sometimes had poor machining, also the seal wasn't pushed in far enough, so possibly damaged by cranks whip.
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