RE: Exhaust fakery: Tell Me I'm Wrong
Discussion
loudlashadjuster said:
Cheburator mk2 said:
kambites said:
I don't think the number of cylinders matters; it's all about layout and orientation.
No inline engine should ever have exhaust tips on both sides of the car. An inline engine should have them on the exhaust valve side of the head only;
I always thought the quad pipes on six-pot BMW M-cars were the epitome of tackiness.
Has it ever occured to you, that the quad pipes on BMWs often are necessitated by the need to route the system via the rear suspension? No inline engine should ever have exhaust tips on both sides of the car. An inline engine should have them on the exhaust valve side of the head only;
I always thought the quad pipes on six-pot BMW M-cars were the epitome of tackiness.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 19th June 14:09
Although my Z4 MC is slightly confused...
marshall100 said:
Of course it can go the other way.....
I do like the burble of a flat four, the stock exhaust on my forester turbo possibly isn't loud enough, and even this picture doesn't quite illustrate quite what I'm getting at. I'm talking about those scoobies with dustbins for silencers, the kind of car that slipped into shed territory before being scooped up by barry and his mates so they can boost the tits off it. Too loud, too noisey, your spoiling it for everyone else. More importantly, you look like a dick doing it.
+1I do like the burble of a flat four, the stock exhaust on my forester turbo possibly isn't loud enough, and even this picture doesn't quite illustrate quite what I'm getting at. I'm talking about those scoobies with dustbins for silencers, the kind of car that slipped into shed territory before being scooped up by barry and his mates so they can boost the tits off it. Too loud, too noisey, your spoiling it for everyone else. More importantly, you look like a dick doing it.
This is a massive gripe of mine. The size of the exhausts fitted to some subarus nowadays is hilarious and completely ruins the car for me.
"Noise should be consistent across the rev range and not artificially augmented; contrived start-up blips with the system fully open before closing the valves and settling down to a quiet idle are especially objectionable (see Porsche, Ferrari, etc).
"Pops, bangs and crackles should only occur 'naturally' and not due to contrived ECU controlled 'misfires'. Ditto flames."
All so true!!
"Pops, bangs and crackles should only occur 'naturally' and not due to contrived ECU controlled 'misfires'. Ditto flames."
All so true!!
I love the twin silencer system on an original BMW 323i and went out of my way to convert the 316 I used to re shell it. I had to cut out and replace the rear offside chassis rail, to do a factory fit conversion. It was a lot of effort and avoidable expense, but it's a styling cue that helps make the 323i special. (to me anyway) It does have 6 cylinders and 300bhp though, so warrants the extra pipe.
chappardababbar said:
otolith said:
Appalling breach of cylinder count / exhaust tips rules;
Really? Wasn't there a function related reason for this? I think it suits the car, I also think the Motorsport pedigree means it's earned the right to break the rules and be a bit arrogant.No?
crostonian said:
They look like the 'Heated Towel Rails' you see added to chavved up 4x4s and why they put motorbike silencers on the Tuscan I could never understand, the Griffiths pipes were cool though.
Only space for the silencers and forms an important styling detail. Coupled with the fact that they're a genuine 2 pipe system with 2 3-into-1 manifolds to optimize exhaust scavenging.
PH has a point on excess exhaustage, but rules being proposed whilst only for fun do show a lack of technical grounding for an enthusiast website.
Another point, F40 has an exhaust for each cylinder bank, ie 2 only. The third center pipe is not an exhaust, rather the wastegate vent pipe. Consequently 458 triple exhausts are a completely naff styling exercise as there is no reason for the third pipe.
dvs_dave]pic]http://www.x-tremetuning.de/wallpapers/images/tvr_tuscan_05.jpg[/pic said:
Only space for the silencers and forms an important styling detail. Coupled with the fact that they're a genuine 2 pipe system with 2 3-into-1 manifolds to optimize exhaust scavenging.
PH has a point on excess exhaustage, but rules being proposed whilst only for fun do show a lack of technical grounding for an enthusiast website.
Another point, F40 has an exhaust for each cylinder bank, ie 2 only. The third center pipe is not an exhaust, rather the wastegate vent pipe. Consequently 458 triple exhausts are a completely naff styling exercise as there is no reason for the third pipe.
Clumpsy.PH has a point on excess exhaustage, but rules being proposed whilst only for fun do show a lack of technical grounding for an enthusiast website.
Another point, F40 has an exhaust for each cylinder bank, ie 2 only. The third center pipe is not an exhaust, rather the wastegate vent pipe. Consequently 458 triple exhausts are a completely naff styling exercise as there is no reason for the third pipe.
I quite like the symmetrical look on my Accord. They only come with 3 engines.....derv has no exhaust, 2.0 has one and the 2.4 has two.
Surprised no-one has mentioned the first XF....dunno if it's me but I really think the tailpipes on these always look wonky and a bit of an afterthought.....and they are clearly fake.
My favourite..
Surprised no-one has mentioned the first XF....dunno if it's me but I really think the tailpipes on these always look wonky and a bit of an afterthought.....and they are clearly fake.
My favourite..
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