Discussion
MikeDov said:
bertieg said:
im hoping to work in them soon!
the Blue Peter presenting style is awful. can they not present it in a serious manner?
I work at BAMC, where they did the 747 engineering giants programme last year but also spent 6 months last year working at TBC, the offices on the 9th floor above the car park at the BA facility. It's a great place, busy as hell, I've got an interview up there on Friday for a fleet planner position, always interesting the Blue Peter presenting style is awful. can they not present it in a serious manner?
You expect them to properly explain how ILS works when they keep talking about things happening 'on runways', which are actually taxiways, aprons etc?
It's simplistic, but watchable. What I can't understand is the obsession with LIVE! television like this, as if the technology has only just become available. It adds nothing as far as I can see, apart from making the script sound a bit dodgy.
It's simplistic, but watchable. What I can't understand is the obsession with LIVE! television like this, as if the technology has only just become available. It adds nothing as far as I can see, apart from making the script sound a bit dodgy.
el stovey said:
Such a missed opportunity, all that great behind the scenes access and interesting people to interview and they have children's TV level inane drivel aimed at simpletons.
Agreed. I saw Tuesdays programme and what could have been fascinating was ruined by the presenters inane drivel, or by simply answering the questions they were asking.Presenter bloke "I've got Jon Pilot here with me now to answer some of your questions, and here's one from Andrew Viewer who asks 'what are those sticky up bits on the end of the wings for', which is an interesting question because I think they are called winglets and they are there to reduce the wingtip vortices which reduces drag so makes the aircraft more efficient. So, Jon, what are they?"
Jon Pilot "Yes that's right, they are called winglets and they are there to reduce the wingtip vortices which reduces drag so makes the aircraft more efficient."
Presenter Bloke "That's great Jon thanks for explaining it".
In contrast, the programme after it at 9pm about how Transport for London tries to keep Londons traffic moving was fascinating and insightful, and well worth a watch on iPlayer for anyone who missed it.
Prawo Jazdy said:
You expect them to properly explain how ILS works when they keep talking about things happening 'on runways', which are actually taxiways, aprons etc?
It's simplistic, but watchable. What I can't understand is the obsession with LIVE! television like this, as if the technology has only just become available. It adds nothing as far as I can see, apart from making the script sound a bit dodgy.
But describing an ILS as a 'sat nav for runways' isn't a simplistic explanation, it's gibberish. It's nothing like a sat nav and it's for aircraft not runways. They might as well have said it's like a coffee machine It's simplistic, but watchable. What I can't understand is the obsession with LIVE! television like this, as if the technology has only just become available. It adds nothing as far as I can see, apart from making the script sound a bit dodgy.
A lex said:
If the chairs are anything like the ones we use (didnt see them on the TV, but suspect they are the same), they are about £3K per piece!
Today was very, very interesting (fun) at work with the CBs - tomorrow is forecast to be worse!
Ah, good, chair geeking. I didn't notice what they had either, but they tend to be one of three in NATS. Herman Miller Aeron chairs are about a grand I think. They're the ones that are see-through mesh. Giroflex chairs are another one - very adjustable and I like that. I remember sitting in one at Heathrow that was the third type though and I don't know what they're called. They're like a car seat that has been turned into an office chair - high-backed with a headrest and you seem to sit in them rather than on.Today was very, very interesting (fun) at work with the CBs - tomorrow is forecast to be worse!
What are your £3k ones like Alex? I'd want a massage function and a built in espresso machine if it was my money.
ETA: Mr Hyde I agree. It wouldn't have taken many seconds to give a simple but sensical (is this a word??) explanation of what it is.
Edited by Prawo Jazdy on Wednesday 19th June 23:04
You've got to remember the wide spectrum of viewers they have to aim the programme at. Personally I think they're doing an alright job and I can see it as being a good insight for people who don't know about aviation.
If they went into detail about the ILS most people would have been asleep leave that for the discovery channel.
The only bit I don't get is what we're getting as a viewer from it being "live"
If they went into detail about the ILS most people would have been asleep leave that for the discovery channel.
The only bit I don't get is what we're getting as a viewer from it being "live"
ecsrobin said:
Personally I think they're doing an alright job and I can see it as being a good insight for people who don't know about aviation.
While I tend to agree, there's no excuse for the ridiculous dumbing down. They could have as easily said that ILS is a beam down which the a/c flies.Their explanation of Lift vs AoA vs Vr was, quite frankly, rubbish. The explanation of wake turbulence was lightweight in the extreme.
Are the modern Great British public that stupid that they require sound-bite TV? Or is it a case of stupid TV producers forcing their wares on the TV audience?
Contrast this programme with anything aviation related narrated by the late Raymond Baxter.
Prawo Jazdy said:
Ah, good, chair geeking. I didn't notice what they had either, but they tend to be one of three in NATS. Herman Miller Aeron chairs are about a grand I think. They're the ones that are see-through mesh. Giroflex chairs are another one - very adjustable and I like that. I remember sitting in one at Heathrow that was the third type though and I don't know what they're called. They're like a car seat that has been turned into an office chair - high-backed with a headrest and you seem to sit in them rather than on.
Ive looked up the Herman Miller and the Giroflex, its not those, these ones were like a 90s style Ford Recaro seat, very sq headrest, covered in what looked like black leather.Though if A lex is right and they are 3k I'm not really sure why I'm keen to find out what they are, lol.
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
ecsrobin said:
Personally I think they're doing an alright job and I can see it as being a good insight for people who don't know about aviation.
While I tend to agree, there's no excuse for the ridiculous dumbing down. They could have as easily said that ILS is a beam down which the a/c flies.Their explanation of Lift vs AoA vs Vr was, quite frankly, rubbish. The explanation of wake turbulence was lightweight in the extreme.
Are the modern Great British public that stupid that they require sound-bite TV? Or is it a case of stupid TV producers forcing their wares on the TV audience?
Contrast this programme with anything aviation related narrated by the late Raymond Baxter.
Wheelrepairit said:
Ive looked up the Herman Miller and the Giroflex, its not those, these ones were like a 90s style Ford Recaro seat, very sq headrest, covered in what looked like black leather.
Though if A lex is right and they are 3k I'm not really sure why I'm keen to find out what they are, lol.
Yeah, that's the third type I was describing. I don't think those ones are three grand. They can tip forward quite a bit, which is helpful for combatting the fact that they're comfortable enough to fall asleep in.Though if A lex is right and they are 3k I'm not really sure why I'm keen to find out what they are, lol.
I just spend most of it saying "Back to Humble"
Springwatch on an airfield.
It's what she knows how to do, so she's going to do it!
And who calls their kid Dallas?
And if you are someone afflicted with the name Dallas, why the flock haven't you had it changed?
I prefer to centre on these things rather than the hatchet job they are doing to the aviation aspect of the program, because it just wouldn't be fair on them.
BACK TO HUMBLE.
Springwatch on an airfield.
It's what she knows how to do, so she's going to do it!
And who calls their kid Dallas?
And if you are someone afflicted with the name Dallas, why the flock haven't you had it changed?
I prefer to centre on these things rather than the hatchet job they are doing to the aviation aspect of the program, because it just wouldn't be fair on them.
BACK TO HUMBLE.
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