New RS4 gone in 90 seconds....
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sulli said:
Clifford BlackJax is a good solution, and less than £200!
Blackjax invalidates Thatcham Cat 1 approval if I remember correctly from the old days of buying Clifford alarms due to the fact that it's effectively an uncontrolled immobiliser unit. Don't know if that's still the case but if it is and your insurance company find out about it they could potentially use it as a reason not to pay out.405dogvan said:
V8RX7 said:
With power tools / extreme violence they can be removed but doing so makes noise and it adds another later of security.
1 - no power tools required - 2 cans of air and a hammer(*)2 - they're a liability to your safety unless safely secured somewhere (which no-one does
3 - they're a pain-in-the-arse to fit and no-one wants to faff around on their shiny new toy...
2) Can you provide a link to a serious injury ?
3) Myself and several others on here have said we've been using them on our toys for many years
Evoluzione said:
What happens to these cars once they are stolen?
What happened to this one, it had a tracker fitted, was it not found?
There is a very large illegal export market for stolen cars to Africa via containers passing out of East Anglian ports probably Felixstowe. The spares value or resale values of the most obviously stolen late model German cars is massive and easy to access if you are a bent scrote via that process. Which these organised crime merchants are. This is not a few toerags stealing cars to joyride this is organised crime which is why nothing is heard of the stolen cars again. What happened to this one, it had a tracker fitted, was it not found?
Sadly it has become all too easy to steal the affected cars in the UK. I cannot see any improvement from the manufacturers who simply deny responsibility and clearly are not going to address the problem. Down to the owners to step up their additional security on their cxar or risk losing their cars. Dreadful affair, but that is how this has become.
Evoluzione said:
What happens to these cars once they are stolen?
What happened to this one, it had a tracker fitted, was it not found?
The problem with trackers is that all the thieves know to look for them.What happened to this one, it had a tracker fitted, was it not found?
They have to have power and they have to be beneath glass not metal.
Hence if you aren't worried about damaging seats / dash boards they can be found within 5 mins.
You know that you see non RS models with RS seats, wheels, engines etc - guess where they came from ?
In fairness for expensive stuff there is a huge market in the Arab countries IIRC Panorama did a programme on it after checking out a compound in Dubai.
this:
http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f3/how-remove-...
then replace with dummy port from breakers?
http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f3/how-remove-...
then replace with dummy port from breakers?
Durzel said:
People want convenience like keyless go, etc
Do they?You go up to the car with key in your hand, open the door sit inside, now where do I put the key - chuck on passenger seat?
At end of trip where's the key gone - tucked down the seat somewhere
What is wrong with a key that you put in a slot - turn it to start and at the end of the trip remove it and take it with you?
If the car is locked in gear when you remove the key even better
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Durzel said:
sulli said:
Clifford BlackJax is a good solution, and less than £200!
Blackjax invalidates Thatcham Cat 1 approval if I remember correctly from the old days of buying Clifford alarms due to the fact that it's effectively an uncontrolled immobiliser unit. Don't know if that's still the case but if it is and your insurance company find out about it they could potentially use it as a reason not to pay out.Dusty964 said:
How is any of this the manufacturers fault?
The car is purchased with the security systems in place.
The buyer knows the limitations of the system
Do they really ????The car is purchased with the security systems in place.
The buyer knows the limitations of the system
When I wander into the showroom do they have a big board saying "This car can be stolen and driven away within 90 seconds" is it in the brochure - OF COURSE IT ISN'T
V8RX7 said:
Dusty964 said:
How is any of this the manufacturers fault?
The car is purchased with the security systems in place.
The buyer knows the limitations of the system
Do they really ????The car is purchased with the security systems in place.
The buyer knows the limitations of the system
When I wander into the showroom do they have a big board saying "This car can be stolen and driven away within 90 seconds" is it in the brochure - OF COURSE IT ISN'T
king great big hammer in front of your kids' either. The fact remains that if someone wants it badly enough, it will be taken. As has been stated, do more to prevent the crime taking place in the first place, rather than attempt to make the vehicle a fortress for the inevitable theft.Dusty964 said:
V8RX7 said:
Dusty964 said:
How is any of this the manufacturers fault?
The car is purchased with the security systems in place.
The buyer knows the limitations of the system
Do they really ????The car is purchased with the security systems in place.
The buyer knows the limitations of the system
When I wander into the showroom do they have a big board saying "This car can be stolen and driven away within 90 seconds" is it in the brochure - OF COURSE IT ISN'T
king great big hammer in front of your kids' either. The fact remains that if someone wants it badly enough, it will be taken. As has been stated, do more to prevent the crime taking place in the first place, rather than attempt to make the vehicle a fortress for the inevitable theft.People are NOT aware how easy it is to bypass some modern cars security - when you stated that they were.
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