Smoking to be banned in cars by October 2015
Discussion
Nigel Worc's said:
RussH91 said:
Its already illegal to smoke in company vehicles, I never been pulled over for it or heard of anyone else been pulled for it how often do you see Gents smoking in their work vans?
Like most laws that are being introduced it ticks a box. Totally unenforcible with the amount of police you see on the roads.
It is not illegal to smoke in company vehicles, but don't let the facts worry you.Like most laws that are being introduced it ticks a box. Totally unenforcible with the amount of police you see on the roads.
https://www.gov.uk/smoking-at-work-the-law
Direct Gov said:
Smoking in work vehicles
Smoking isn’t allowed in any work vehicle that more than 1 person uses, eg:
taxis
buses
vans
goods vehicles used by more than 1 driver
company cars used by more than 1 employee
A worker can smoke in a company car that only they use if their employer agrees.
Smoking isn’t allowed in any work vehicle that more than 1 person uses, eg:
taxis
buses
vans
goods vehicles used by more than 1 driver
company cars used by more than 1 employee
A worker can smoke in a company car that only they use if their employer agrees.
I think this is the age gap thing, a generational issue.
As with many subjects.
I've gone from seeing my dad smoke in the doctors waiting room, myself being issued ciggys in the forces, through to the present day situation where I'm only a short step away from being considered a druggie/criminal.
As with many subjects.
I've gone from seeing my dad smoke in the doctors waiting room, myself being issued ciggys in the forces, through to the present day situation where I'm only a short step away from being considered a druggie/criminal.
RussH91 said:
Nigel Worc's said:
RussH91 said:
Its already illegal to smoke in company vehicles, I never been pulled over for it or heard of anyone else been pulled for it how often do you see Gents smoking in their work vans?
Like most laws that are being introduced it ticks a box. Totally unenforcible with the amount of police you see on the roads.
It is not illegal to smoke in company vehicles, but don't let the facts worry you.Like most laws that are being introduced it ticks a box. Totally unenforcible with the amount of police you see on the roads.
https://www.gov.uk/smoking-at-work-the-law
Direct Gov said:
Smoking in work vehicles
Smoking isn’t allowed in any work vehicle that more than 1 person uses, eg:
taxis
buses
vans
goods vehicles used by more than 1 driver
company cars used by more than 1 employee
A worker can smoke in a company car that only they use if their employer agrees.
Smoking isn’t allowed in any work vehicle that more than 1 person uses, eg:
taxis
buses
vans
goods vehicles used by more than 1 driver
company cars used by more than 1 employee
A worker can smoke in a company car that only they use if their employer agrees.
trickywoo said:
I can't stand people throwing lit butts out the window - should be 6 points minimum.
This. Why do people do it? There is no excuse. Smokers somehow seem to regard cigarette butts as acceptable litter (a bit like readers of Metro and the Evening Standard who seem to regard their newspapers as acceptable litter).This is excellent if true. Hopefully I won't have to breathe the smoke in when in traffic and I might see fewer lit fag ends chucked from cars than I do now (at least one a day and I only drive about 8 miles). You can get pulled over for drinking a coke whilst driving, how smoking is allowed still I don't know.
My late father used to smoke his pipe in the car, windows up, with myself, my brother and sister being quietly kippered in the back seat, aged 5, 6 and 7. This was in the days before seatbelts, so a long time ago for you youngsters.
My father died aged 83 of an aneurism, having survived being shot down in 1944, marched out of Stalg Luft 3 in January 1945 in the worst winter on record, then crammed into cattle cars for a trip up to the German coast.
So the risks associated with smoking were low on his list of worries, really.
He used to embarrass the f
k out of us when he would decide to tap out his pipe on the road while stopped at traffic lights, even if they'd changed to green.
I know,tut tut, messy sod, disgusting habit, call Esther Rantzen.
We are now 56, 57 and 58 years old now, and have not suffered any long term effects from this kippering. My oldest brother is now 70, and he has also survived.
For what it's worth, my father was not a particularly good driver anyway, smoking or not, and it would appear that he was not that great at flying a Mustang P51 either (sorry dad, I know you were better than that), well, probably not as great as the pilot of the FW190 that shot him down.
However, he swore that he was not smoking at the time, so he was not distracted.
So, good for all of you who despise smoking drivers. I'll bet you don't even pick your noses while driving, keeping both hands at ten to two.
My father died aged 83 of an aneurism, having survived being shot down in 1944, marched out of Stalg Luft 3 in January 1945 in the worst winter on record, then crammed into cattle cars for a trip up to the German coast.
So the risks associated with smoking were low on his list of worries, really.
He used to embarrass the f
k out of us when he would decide to tap out his pipe on the road while stopped at traffic lights, even if they'd changed to green.I know,tut tut, messy sod, disgusting habit, call Esther Rantzen.
We are now 56, 57 and 58 years old now, and have not suffered any long term effects from this kippering. My oldest brother is now 70, and he has also survived.
For what it's worth, my father was not a particularly good driver anyway, smoking or not, and it would appear that he was not that great at flying a Mustang P51 either (sorry dad, I know you were better than that), well, probably not as great as the pilot of the FW190 that shot him down.
However, he swore that he was not smoking at the time, so he was not distracted.
So, good for all of you who despise smoking drivers. I'll bet you don't even pick your noses while driving, keeping both hands at ten to two.
Calza said:
nitrodave said:
driving through london i get wafts of smelly green herbs all the time from the cars in from of me!
I've never been able to smell smoke from the car in front in traffic, herbal or not!I don't care whether people smoke in their own cars, just don't expect me to buy it afterwards, had one car that had been extensively smoked in and couldn't really ever totally get rid of the stink.
To be honest, I don't know how a lot of people afford it, isn't a pack like nine quid nowadays ? A lot (not all) of smokers seem to me to be those lower down the social ladder, it may be contrived and a bit Daily Mail, but every benefits documentary like "Benefits Street" seems to show the participants chain smoking, even a moderate habit must cost 40 quid a week ?
I still see youngsters smoking as well, I really dont get that, I can understand people who took it up years ago being stuck with it, but why would anyone bother now ?
To be honest, I don't know how a lot of people afford it, isn't a pack like nine quid nowadays ? A lot (not all) of smokers seem to me to be those lower down the social ladder, it may be contrived and a bit Daily Mail, but every benefits documentary like "Benefits Street" seems to show the participants chain smoking, even a moderate habit must cost 40 quid a week ?
I still see youngsters smoking as well, I really dont get that, I can understand people who took it up years ago being stuck with it, but why would anyone bother now ?
John145 said:
Calza said:
nitrodave said:
driving through london i get wafts of smelly green herbs all the time from the cars in from of me!
I've never been able to smell smoke from the car in front in traffic, herbal or not!"Yah, I'll sort you out a ten bag for this evening, brother. Yah, safe, man" in a perfect middle-england poshboy accent.
J4CKO said:
I don't care whether people smoke in their own cars, just don't expect me to buy it afterwards, had one car that had been extensively smoked in and couldn't really ever totally get rid of the stink.
To be honest, I don't know how a lot of people afford it, isn't a pack like nine quid nowadays ? A lot (not all) of smokers seem to me to be those lower down the social ladder, it may be contrived and a bit Daily Mail, but every benefits documentary like "Benefits Street" seems to show the participants chain smoking, even a moderate habit must cost 40 quid a week ?
I still see youngsters smoking as well, I really dont get that, I can understand people who took it up years ago being stuck with it, but why would anyone bother now ?
Most of the smokers I know get their baccy from Dodgy Abul down the localTo be honest, I don't know how a lot of people afford it, isn't a pack like nine quid nowadays ? A lot (not all) of smokers seem to me to be those lower down the social ladder, it may be contrived and a bit Daily Mail, but every benefits documentary like "Benefits Street" seems to show the participants chain smoking, even a moderate habit must cost 40 quid a week ?
I still see youngsters smoking as well, I really dont get that, I can understand people who took it up years ago being stuck with it, but why would anyone bother now ?
Mad Jock said:
My late father used to smoke his pipe in the car, windows up, with myself, my brother and sister being quietly kippered in the back seat, aged 5, 6 and 7. This was in the days before seatbelts, so a long time ago for you youngsters.
My father died aged 83 of an aneurism, having survived being shot down in 1944, marched out of Stalg Luft 3 in January 1945 in the worst winter on record, then crammed into cattle cars for a trip up to the German coast.
So the risks associated with smoking were low on his list of worries, really.
He used to embarrass the fk out of us when he would decide to tap out his pipe on the road while stopped at traffic lights, even if they'd changed to green.
I know,tut tut, messy sod, disgusting habit, call Esther Rantzen.
We are now 56, 57 and 58 years old now, and have not suffered any long term effects from this kippering. My oldest brother is now 70, and he has also survived.
For what it's worth, my father was not a particularly good driver anyway, smoking or not, and it would appear that he was not that great at flying a Mustang P51 either (sorry dad, I know you were better than that), well, probably not as great as the pilot of the FW190 that shot him down.
However, he swore that he was not smoking at the time, so he was not distracted.
So, good for all of you who despise smoking drivers. I'll bet you don't even pick your noses while driving, keeping both hands at ten to two.
It is quite sad how people nowadays have been conditioned into wanting anything and everything banned.What they dont realise is,it never stops.Smoking indoors has been banned, now its heading towards outside,as I've said before its easy to want something banned when you dont indulge in that habit but wait until they come for your vice.I'd quite like cans of booze banned because they are all littered over the local park on a friday night,or howabout a really high pence per unit to put off the youngsters?Maybe limit cars to 70 as theres no need to go any faster-its dangerous.My father died aged 83 of an aneurism, having survived being shot down in 1944, marched out of Stalg Luft 3 in January 1945 in the worst winter on record, then crammed into cattle cars for a trip up to the German coast.
So the risks associated with smoking were low on his list of worries, really.
He used to embarrass the f
k out of us when he would decide to tap out his pipe on the road while stopped at traffic lights, even if they'd changed to green.I know,tut tut, messy sod, disgusting habit, call Esther Rantzen.
We are now 56, 57 and 58 years old now, and have not suffered any long term effects from this kippering. My oldest brother is now 70, and he has also survived.
For what it's worth, my father was not a particularly good driver anyway, smoking or not, and it would appear that he was not that great at flying a Mustang P51 either (sorry dad, I know you were better than that), well, probably not as great as the pilot of the FW190 that shot him down.
However, he swore that he was not smoking at the time, so he was not distracted.
So, good for all of you who despise smoking drivers. I'll bet you don't even pick your noses while driving, keeping both hands at ten to two.
OpulentBob said:
Negative Creep said:
Most of the smokers I know get their baccy from Dodgy Abul down the local
There was duty free baccy being sold on the local Facebook for sale page near me a couple of weeks ago... And a lot of interest in it. Stupid people are stupid. Mad Jock said:
My late father used to smoke his pipe in the car, windows up, with myself, my brother and sister being quietly kippered in the back seat, aged 5, 6 and 7. This was in the days before seatbelts, so a long time ago for you youngsters.
My father died aged 83 of an aneurism, having survived being shot down in 1944, marched out of Stalg Luft 3 in January 1945 in the worst winter on record, then crammed into cattle cars for a trip up to the German coast.
So the risks associated with smoking were low on his list of worries, really.
He used to embarrass the fk out of us when he would decide to tap out his pipe on the road while stopped at traffic lights, even if they'd changed to green.
I know,tut tut, messy sod, disgusting habit, call Esther Rantzen.
We are now 56, 57 and 58 years old now, and have not suffered any long term effects from this kippering. My oldest brother is now 70, and he has also survived.
For what it's worth, my father was not a particularly good driver anyway, smoking or not, and it would appear that he was not that great at flying a Mustang P51 either (sorry dad, I know you were better than that), well, probably not as great as the pilot of the FW190 that shot him down.
However, he swore that he was not smoking at the time, so he was not distracted.
So, good for all of you who despise smoking drivers. I'll bet you don't even pick your noses while driving, keeping both hands at ten to two.
Enjoyed your post - your dad sounded like a character!My father died aged 83 of an aneurism, having survived being shot down in 1944, marched out of Stalg Luft 3 in January 1945 in the worst winter on record, then crammed into cattle cars for a trip up to the German coast.
So the risks associated with smoking were low on his list of worries, really.
He used to embarrass the f
k out of us when he would decide to tap out his pipe on the road while stopped at traffic lights, even if they'd changed to green.I know,tut tut, messy sod, disgusting habit, call Esther Rantzen.
We are now 56, 57 and 58 years old now, and have not suffered any long term effects from this kippering. My oldest brother is now 70, and he has also survived.
For what it's worth, my father was not a particularly good driver anyway, smoking or not, and it would appear that he was not that great at flying a Mustang P51 either (sorry dad, I know you were better than that), well, probably not as great as the pilot of the FW190 that shot him down.
However, he swore that he was not smoking at the time, so he was not distracted.
So, good for all of you who despise smoking drivers. I'll bet you don't even pick your noses while driving, keeping both hands at ten to two.
Nevertheless, smoking is unequivocally linked to cancer, despite your dad being an exception. I find it quite strange that smokers really want to fight for something that could kill them. Whilst there are a few 'social' smokers out there, the majority of smokers are addicted and are simply of the mindset that no bad will come of it; that very human mentality of it being a problem so far into the future that it doesn't matter.
Anyway, i'm not hear to preach about smoking being bad for you. I'd like to see smoking banned in cars as i don't like that it's socially acceptable to throw the butt out of the window once you're done. I'd like to think i was brought up properly - littering was the ultimate crime as a child and, as such, it boils my piss in adulthood.
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