'Due Care' ticket for undertaking this morning!! Doh!!
Discussion
It was a fair cop. Undertaking the bloody slow traffic in lanes 2 and 3 of the M27 whilst nobody was in lane 1. The usual south coast s
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My biggest error was in not checking my rear view mirror and as a result had the inevitable blue-lighter pull me over. Nothing too harsh said by plod, I put my hands up and apologised immediately. On the upside I was told my driving was not unsafe, but did warrant a 'due care and attention' ticket because of the lack of thought for drivers in lane 2 and the possible risk had they had moved over without checking the inside lane. Amusingly and disappointingly for them they had first thought the car was stolen and i was trying to escape the marked car behind but i just plainly hadn't seen them before i made my move.
The question i ask is: Is this going to be an 'awareness course' job or is it a bit of a lottery deciding who gets points (3 points plus £100) and who gets courses? I have a clean licence and there are no further comments on the producer (wasn't speeding or anything) that might slip me up. Could do without the points to be honest as Ive kept the paperwork clean thus far.
Your thoughts??
t! My biggest error was in not checking my rear view mirror and as a result had the inevitable blue-lighter pull me over. Nothing too harsh said by plod, I put my hands up and apologised immediately. On the upside I was told my driving was not unsafe, but did warrant a 'due care and attention' ticket because of the lack of thought for drivers in lane 2 and the possible risk had they had moved over without checking the inside lane. Amusingly and disappointingly for them they had first thought the car was stolen and i was trying to escape the marked car behind but i just plainly hadn't seen them before i made my move.
The question i ask is: Is this going to be an 'awareness course' job or is it a bit of a lottery deciding who gets points (3 points plus £100) and who gets courses? I have a clean licence and there are no further comments on the producer (wasn't speeding or anything) that might slip me up. Could do without the points to be honest as Ive kept the paperwork clean thus far.
Your thoughts??
I did make the point that frustration got the better of me and asked if they felt the same way about the poor lane discipline seen round these parts. The response was positive in that they understood my view, but at the same said time rules are rules and my manoeuvre was more of an issue than the old folks in lanes 2 and 3 holding up the traffic. Being Xmas i believe there is a 'no excuses' policy in force too so I wasn't going to get off, regardless of my bleating.
My thoughts Eddie?
It takes the total and absolute piss. The mongs in lane 2 should ALL get due care tickets, and not you, if you were able to just cruise along in lane 1, passing car after car who were all clearly driving along in a dreamworld. I is dissapoint at your nicking
For what it's worth, most days when I have to suffer the M27 going from the airport down to Portsmouth, like you I often find lane 1 the most free-flowing. I pass numerous mouthbreathers sitting in lane 2 as well. If I was to get a ticket for that, I think my blood pressure would hit new heights!!!
Did you not mention this to the copper???
It takes the total and absolute piss. The mongs in lane 2 should ALL get due care tickets, and not you, if you were able to just cruise along in lane 1, passing car after car who were all clearly driving along in a dreamworld. I is dissapoint at your nicking
For what it's worth, most days when I have to suffer the M27 going from the airport down to Portsmouth, like you I often find lane 1 the most free-flowing. I pass numerous mouthbreathers sitting in lane 2 as well. If I was to get a ticket for that, I think my blood pressure would hit new heights!!!
Did you not mention this to the copper???
Pistom said:
This stupid law needs changing. Americans may be the morons of the motoring world (and most other aspects of the world too) but overtaking either side is one thing they have got right.
Undertaking it's self is not an offence. Just stty coppers dressing it up as driving without due car going for the easy collar. Nothing new.3 points £100 fine. Don't think you'll get an awareness course.
To say the copper should bust all of the guys in lane two holding everyone up whilst updating twitter, it's the same excuse as asking them to nick every other speeder on the road at the time you get pinged doing 85 in a 70. Its never going to wash.
The Law allows for undertaking a "queue". Looking at the circumstances I would have thought that was what you were doing. I also would have asked the question why he was not ticketing the MLM's seeing as that was what a new law was brought in for recently. Of course Stopping the Motorway to ticket the MLM's would not be easy but as they have no other way of doing it........
They've said they are cracking down on middle lane mongs but we all know its not happening. I think it would make more sense to put signs up along the motorways etc telling people to move over if not overtaking. Either that or try to make it more of a 'thing' when people are learning to drive. It's not just old people who can't manage to keep left in reality (as much as i like to blame the retirement residents of my beloved home county), I see loads of young and nervous drivers who are just too scared to change lanes when the road is busy. The middle lane is a 'safe' choice in their eyes and you can see them a mile off because they have a distinctive 'road manner' and when passing never make eye contact out of pure fear.
telecat said:
The Law allows for undertaking a "queue". Looking at the circumstances I would have thought that was what you were doing. I also would have asked the question why he was not ticketing the MLM's seeing as that was what a new law was brought in for recently. Of course Stopping the Motorway to ticket the MLM's would not be easy but as they have no other way of doing it........
I'll jjust adjust my tinfoil hat here, but the "new" powers, were powers the police already had, but were too lazy to use. The government also buried the increase in fines in the same paper. So the media latched on to the bit about middle lane hoggers, and ignored the increase in fine.Quelle surprisé the police still can't be arsed to use powers they had anyway to actually improve driving standards. Instead they go for the easy collar.
[/tin foil hat mode]
If you're coming off at a junction and undertaking you'll be fine, otherwise you're screwed.
ecain63 said:
I did make the point that frustration got the better of me and asked if they felt the same way about the poor lane discipline seen round these parts. The response was positive in that they understood my view, but at the same said time rules are rules and my manoeuvre was more of an issue than the old folks in lanes 2 and 3 holding up the traffic. Being Xmas i believe there is a 'no excuses' policy in force too so I wasn't going to get off, regardless of my bleating.
Your manoeuvre is no more or less dangerous than theirs. If they had been driving correctly, with due care and attention as to which lane they were in, then you wouldn't have done what you did. I suppose you're just an easy target, fills the quotas and all that. AlfaDogvan said:
I will have to watch this also.
OP did you move to lane 1 to undertake or were you already in lane 1?
I too find the M27 is terrible for lane 2/3 hogger's, even well within legal speed I find it a problem most day's.
thanks for the heads up.
Andy
I was in lane 3, sat behind about 6 or 7 cars doing 50mph. Lane 2 was also about 6 or 7 cars deep sat at 50mph. I could see the car at the front of lane 3 was not going to move over at all and making no progress. Seeing lane 1 was clear for a good half mile i did move from 3 to 1 and accelerated to 70mph to overtake / undertake the queues in 2 and 3. I got past fine but just as i got clear i could see the cars behind moving over and the copper coming through. That's the move that they have made note of and as said, it was a fair cop. It was a deliberate but not unsafe move and i got caught out. Being bright red and having 4 exhaust pipes did't do me any favours either i'm sure and being only 32 years old the AMG was a swift topic of conversation. Tyres, tax etc were all checked, probably because of my age. OP did you move to lane 1 to undertake or were you already in lane 1?
I too find the M27 is terrible for lane 2/3 hogger's, even well within legal speed I find it a problem most day's.
thanks for the heads up.
Andy
ecain63 said:
It was a fair cop. Undertaking the bloody slow traffic in lanes 2 and 3 of the M27 whilst nobody was in lane 1. The usual south coast st!
My biggest error was in not checking my rear view mirror and as a result had the inevitable blue-lighter pull me over. Nothing too harsh said by plod, I put my hands up and apologised immediately. On the upside I was told my driving was not unsafe, but did warrant a 'due care and attention' ticket because of the lack of thought for drivers in lane 2 and the possible risk had they had moved over without checking the inside lane. Amusingly and disappointingly for them they had first thought the car was stolen and i was trying to escape the marked car behind but i just plainly hadn't seen them before i made my move.
The question i ask is: Is this going to be an 'awareness course' job or is it a bit of a lottery deciding who gets points (3 points plus £100) and who gets courses? I have a clean licence and there are no further comments on the producer (wasn't speeding or anything) that might slip me up. Could do without the points to be honest as Ive kept the paperwork clean thus far.
Your thoughts??
Maybe he's seen your other posts? E.g.t! My biggest error was in not checking my rear view mirror and as a result had the inevitable blue-lighter pull me over. Nothing too harsh said by plod, I put my hands up and apologised immediately. On the upside I was told my driving was not unsafe, but did warrant a 'due care and attention' ticket because of the lack of thought for drivers in lane 2 and the possible risk had they had moved over without checking the inside lane. Amusingly and disappointingly for them they had first thought the car was stolen and i was trying to escape the marked car behind but i just plainly hadn't seen them before i made my move.
The question i ask is: Is this going to be an 'awareness course' job or is it a bit of a lottery deciding who gets points (3 points plus £100) and who gets courses? I have a clean licence and there are no further comments on the producer (wasn't speeding or anything) that might slip me up. Could do without the points to be honest as Ive kept the paperwork clean thus far.
Your thoughts??
Now, this is to be answered honestly. No bravado or claims that people demonise Merc drivers because of old cliches.
The reason I ask is that I actually think it does make me drive like a dick at times (or at least that's how its viewed from the outside) and I genuinely do think its the car that brings it out in me. I've always considered myself to be a decent driver and having done numerous courses to aid my development as a road user (advanced driving, HGV, offroad, ice & snow, desert, amphib etc) I've never felt lacking in ability or experience when skill is called upon. But, with the purchase of my C63 I've noticed that the way I drive is becoming more akin to the attitude of the car itself. Anyone else feel the car is taking charge?
It never happened with the RS6 as i felt it too fragile to punt everywhere at mach 10. The E61 M5 never caused this problem either. Not enough torque down low to be a point and shoot weapon. By the time you were in the right gear and at the right revs you were safely and considerately making your manoeuvre without upsetting anyone. Only once passed did the V10 howl scare the bejesus out of the guy behind.
Examples via the C63:
Easy undertaking weapon - The more i find its lightning potential to undertake he more its used. It's handy when you're faced with somebody who clearly is on another planet in the wrong lane but using the inside lane as an overtaking lane is a problem for others, and agreeably so. Can't say I'm proud of that one but Its too easy.
Finding gaps - If there's an opportunity to zip between cars or into a clear space then the C63 is the car that can do it. Its quick and it's safe but i can imagine what it looks like from the outside.
Stopping distances and accelerating distances - I do find i drive closer to the car in front as a result of good brakes, as wrong as that is. Again, i dont think that its unsafe but It looks bad to other drivers. Same goes for accelerating distances. How quickly this car goes from being behind a slow driver to being way past on an overtake is staggering. A little bit of right foot and youre away. Again, i can only assume other road users dislike this ability and find it quite intimidating.
Noise - It's got to be off-putting being overtaken by such displacement. Its not even a friendly or exciting noise like a Ferrari makes. More a death threat from Satan as you pass. Removes the need to stick the finger up. Just plant the loud pedal!
I don't feel that i drive less safely because of the car but i sure feel its a lot less agreeable. The answer and solution is obvious, just drive slower and safer. However......
What you reckon? Has your AMG done anything to your driving style?
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