Told my employer I was leaving, didn't end well!
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Just looking for some advice on this. Is it worth chasing.
Yesterday I emailed my employer stating I planned to leave the company on the 30th of June this year to go self employed.
To day I have been told to leave with 1 months pay. (My notice period is one month) I stated I was planning to leave in three months, And asked if they were happy to take three months notice or if I had to submit my notice in two months time.
It basically it feels like I have been sacked and given a months wages and told to do one.
Are they allowed to do this legally? or do I have any legal right to ask for the two months pay I would have earned?
Yesterday I emailed my employer stating I planned to leave the company on the 30th of June this year to go self employed.
To day I have been told to leave with 1 months pay. (My notice period is one month) I stated I was planning to leave in three months, And asked if they were happy to take three months notice or if I had to submit my notice in two months time.
It basically it feels like I have been sacked and given a months wages and told to do one.
Are they allowed to do this legally? or do I have any legal right to ask for the two months pay I would have earned?
CraigJ said:
Just looking for some advice on this. Is it worth chasing.
Yesterday I emailed my employer stating I planned to leave the company on the 30th of June this year to go self employed.
To day I have been told to leave with 1 months pay. (My notice period is one month) I stated I was planning to leave in three months, And asked if they were happy to take three months notice or if I had to submit my notice in two months time.
It basically it feels like I have been sacked and given a months wages and told to do one.
Are they allowed to do this legally? or do I have any legal right to ask for the two months pay I would have earned?
I'm not clear from reading that if:Yesterday I emailed my employer stating I planned to leave the company on the 30th of June this year to go self employed.
To day I have been told to leave with 1 months pay. (My notice period is one month) I stated I was planning to leave in three months, And asked if they were happy to take three months notice or if I had to submit my notice in two months time.
It basically it feels like I have been sacked and given a months wages and told to do one.
Are they allowed to do this legally? or do I have any legal right to ask for the two months pay I would have earned?
1) You resigned, or just told them you intended to resign.
2) They sacked you, or just told you that in order to leave you need to give a months notice.
Sheepshanks said:
I'm not clear from reading that if:
1) You resigned, or just told them you intended to resign.
2) They sacked you, or just told you that in order to leave you need to give a months notice.
I emailed HR stating that i intended to resign on the 30th of June 2015. 1) You resigned, or just told them you intended to resign.
2) They sacked you, or just told you that in order to leave you need to give a months notice.
Today I was asked to meet with my manager. All my work related items were taken from me and I was told I am no longer needed and one months pay will be received.
CraigJ said:
I have been there just over three years.
It simply feels that I have been shoved out of the door as I am going self employed.
I thought I would do the right thing and let them know as the job I do is not easy to find replacements for.
They could have sacked you at any stage and provide one month's notice. They have done that. Your gesture was noble, but they want you out & move on - as you should.It simply feels that I have been shoved out of the door as I am going self employed.
I thought I would do the right thing and let them know as the job I do is not easy to find replacements for.
Doing the right thing is giving your notice as stated on your contract. Maybe drop some hints that you are planning on leaving but telling them you are going to leave in 3 months when they have contractually asked you to only tell them a month in advance is a bit odd really.
Even if they hadn't told you to leave, you could guarantee the next 3 months wouldn't of been as good as they could have.
Even if they hadn't told you to leave, you could guarantee the next 3 months wouldn't of been as good as they could have.
Craig. You may have the moral high ground but your employer has the "legal" ground.
Yes it feels hollow the way they have behaved BUT essentially they have decided that they no longer need your services.
Take the money, forget the right vs wrong and start your own business pursuit soonest.
Yes it feels hollow the way they have behaved BUT essentially they have decided that they no longer need your services.
Take the money, forget the right vs wrong and start your own business pursuit soonest.
CraigJ said:
I emailed HR stating that i intended to resign on the 30th of June 2015.
Today I was asked to meet with my manager. All my work related items were taken from me and I was told I am no longer needed and one months pay will be received.
Why did you do that? Over the years I've had a few people do it at various levels, all of whom were close to dismissal or disciplinary proceedings starting. All of them did it to try to stave off the inevitable by thinking it gave them some sort of immunity. Not saying that's the case with you, but it's a strange thing to do Today I was asked to meet with my manager. All my work related items were taken from me and I was told I am no longer needed and one months pay will be received.
Are you going self employed in the same industry? Are you actually just going to contract on a self employed basis with a competitor? Or are you genuinely starting up a business in your own? Even then, will you be competing?
Are you going to start your business in a similar field?
Nearly all our salesmen if going to work for a competitor are told to stop working for us straight away (hand back computers, etc(sometimes they can keep the cars till the end of the notice period)) and are payed in lieu of notice.
Nearly all our salesmen if going to work for a competitor are told to stop working for us straight away (hand back computers, etc(sometimes they can keep the cars till the end of the notice period)) and are payed in lieu of notice.
LoonR1 said:
Why did you do that? Over the years I've had a few people do it at various levels, all of whom were close to dismissal or disciplinary proceedings starting. All of them did it to try to stave off the inevitable by thinking it gave them some sort of immunity. Not saying that's the case with you, but it's a strange thing to do
Are you going self employed in the same industry? Are you actually just going to contract on a self employed basis with a competitor? Or are you genuinely starting up a business in your own? Even then, will you be competing?
I worked as part of a service team. The reason in letting them know is it is hard to find replacements and I offered to help train a who ever replaced me. Are you going self employed in the same industry? Are you actually just going to contract on a self employed basis with a competitor? Or are you genuinely starting up a business in your own? Even then, will you be competing?
Yes I will be in the same trade but self employed doing a similar job. I was in this trade before I worked for my now Ex-employer and already had built relationships with clients.
TooMany2cvs said:
So lemme get this straight...
Your contract says one month's notice.
You've told them you're resigning.
They've told you to work one month's notice, no more, no less, as per your contract.
And you're feeling hard done-by and want another two months pay...?
NO he has been paid off - one month's salary in lieu - and told to shoo off forthwith to prevent any risk to them.Your contract says one month's notice.
You've told them you're resigning.
They've told you to work one month's notice, no more, no less, as per your contract.
And you're feeling hard done-by and want another two months pay...?
It suited him to leave at the end of three moths, and he thought the employer would be pleased that he gave more notice than required to. Well meaning, but a tad naive perhaps.
I've left two jobs in the past with more than the required notice - the reason being that I knew that getting me replaced would take longer than a month, and I did not want to leave my employers and their remaining staff in the do-da. (And no, I wasn't under any sort of disciplinary investigation).
In both cases this was gratefully accepted.
I think you have to know the company you work for and make a judgement yourself on whether they are worthy of that consideration. Some are, some aren't, and in this case it looks like the wrong judgement call was made.
I would always take that position in the future if it were appropriate - changing jobs needn't be adversarial, I'd always speak to HR informally and seek their view on it. I have always found that at the very least, they appreciate me giving them the consideration, even if they don't take me up on it.
I've never understood companies, and staff, that take the "adversarial" position on this. I always try to have a good working relationship with my employers, and I've never known them not appreciate this and reciprocate, but perhaps I've just been lucky on that one.
In both cases this was gratefully accepted.
I think you have to know the company you work for and make a judgement yourself on whether they are worthy of that consideration. Some are, some aren't, and in this case it looks like the wrong judgement call was made.
I would always take that position in the future if it were appropriate - changing jobs needn't be adversarial, I'd always speak to HR informally and seek their view on it. I have always found that at the very least, they appreciate me giving them the consideration, even if they don't take me up on it.
I've never understood companies, and staff, that take the "adversarial" position on this. I always try to have a good working relationship with my employers, and I've never known them not appreciate this and reciprocate, but perhaps I've just been lucky on that one.
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