Police error, complaint upheld, doing me anyway! Defend?!
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NoNeed said:
In your eyes maybe but the law states "using" but that seems to difficult for lazy coppers to investigate properly in order to make the right decision. It now seems to falls to those accused to prove innocence and it would appear that some on here don't approve of the OP using police and prosecution tactics of discrediting a witness.
If you say so. It's pretty simple, leave your phone alone whilst driving and you won't be prosecuted. If you're expecting an important call give the phone to your passenger beforehand. NoNeed said:
True, and that is probably the best answer for the OP's question, all this was he wasn't crap about the phone is quite irrelevant IMHO.
How is whether he was using the phone or not irrelevant? The crux of the matter is this - the OP knows whether he was using the phone or not and if he was he needs to takes some responsibility for his actions.smn159 said:
How is whether he was using the phone or not irrelevant? The crux of the matter is this - the OP knows whether he was using the phone or not and if he was he needs to takes some responsibility for his actions.
Yes the OP knows and you wont be satisfied till you get a confessiin when he is under no obligation to prove his innocence. And if it should go to court without a cinfessiin will the officers testimony be worth anything given at keast three inacuracies?NoNeed said:
Yes the OP knows and you wont be satisfied till you get a confessiin when he is under no obligation to prove his innocence. And if it should go to court without a cinfessiin will the officers testimony be worth anything given at keast three inacuracies?
I would expect so, yes.Ethnicity paperwork.
Faulty equipment
(What was #3)
Neither of these will make the police officer seem untrustworthy.
NoNeed said:
Yes the OP knows and you wont be satisfied till you get a confessiin when he is under no obligation to prove his innocence. And if it should go to court without a cinfessiin will the officers testimony be worth anything given at keast three inacuracies?
This is PH he has every obligation to prove his innocence, we will not be satisfied without a picture of the OP with some custard, not using his phone 
NoNeed said:
Yes the OP knows and you wont be satisfied till you get a confessiin when he is under no obligation to prove his innocence. And if it should go to court without a cinfessiin will the officers testimony be worth anything given at keast three inacuracies?
testimony is only stuff wot is said in court innit. NoNeed said:
Yes the OP knows and you wont be satisfied till you get a confessiin when he is under no obligation to prove his innocence. And if it should go to court without a cinfessiin will the officers testimony be worth anything given at keast three inacuracies?
Assuming for a moment that he did use the phone while he shouldn't, does he not have an obligation to take responsibility for his actions?Or do you think that it's all fair game and if he can get off on a technicality then he should?
WeirdNeville said:
julian64 said:
Can I ask the assembled legal bods on this thread. Is it lawful for me to use a handheld two way walkie talkie between two cars?
Landshark said:
A device referred to in paragraphs (1)(b), (2)(b) and (3)(b) is a device, other than a two-way radio
Specifically exempt. Hence them happily showing them doing it on top Gear all the time.
Edited by Red Devil on Tuesday 10th September 16:48
Snowboy said:
I think . . .
The OP will not admit to being on the phone as the police might track down his online admission of guilt.
Although his silence speaks volumes.
I hope you don't believe this. I really can't see them spending years trawling the Internet to find some random username and then linking that back to the OP. The OP will not admit to being on the phone as the police might track down his online admission of guilt.
Although his silence speaks volumes.
LoonR1 said:
Snowboy said:
I think . . .
The OP will not admit to being on the phone as the police might track down his online admission of guilt.
Although his silence speaks volumes.
I hope you don't believe this. I really can't see them spending years trawling the Internet to find some random username and then linking that back to the OP. The OP will not admit to being on the phone as the police might track down his online admission of guilt.
Although his silence speaks volumes.
I think you cropped the first line of the quote - nonetheless it could have been phrased better.
LoonR1 said:
Devil2575 said:
That may well be the case, but it would still be foolish to admit guilt on a public forum.
I don't see how. I was speeding yesterday and I will be between 6.30 and 7 this evening on my way home from the train station. We even know who he is. Someone linked to his website.
His silence on the matter is understandable ...
LoonR1 said:
Devil2575 said:
That may well be the case, but it would still be foolish to admit guilt on a public forum.
I don't see how. I was speeding yesterday and I will be between 6.30 and 7 this evening on my way home from the train station. While the odds fo someone from the relevant force reading the post and connecting it to the OP is slim, it would still be unwise to admit guilt in public if you were hoping to 'get off'. IMHO of course.
I imagine people posting pictures of themselves on you tube driving stupidly probably never though it would come back to haunt them.
Devil2575 said:
This is different from if you had been charged with speeding and were considering going to court and pleading not guilty.
While the odds fo someone from the relevant force reading the post and connecting it to the OP is slim, it would still be unwise to admit guilt in public if you were hoping to 'get off'. IMHO of course.
I imagine people posting pictures of themselves on you tube driving stupidly probably never though it would come back to haunt them.
There are over 100000 Police Officers in this country, assuming that the proportion of petrolheads amongst that number is similar to the population at large and that those petrolheads read this part of the forum, the chances of one emailing GMP and giving the OPs name and a link to this thread isn't that low.While the odds fo someone from the relevant force reading the post and connecting it to the OP is slim, it would still be unwise to admit guilt in public if you were hoping to 'get off'. IMHO of course.
I imagine people posting pictures of themselves on you tube driving stupidly probably never though it would come back to haunt them.
I'd say the OP made an error of judgement posting here and that a transcript of this thread could easily find its way onto his prosecution file.
I guess that's true to an extent.
OP, I think what gets people's backs up is your utter indignancy about this.
We all assume you were using a mobile and don't particularly blame you for trying to find a way to get out of it.
What is a bit rich is the high-horse crusade you have got on over a box ticking exercise about ethnicity. It doesn't matter a tiny bit to anyone in the world and yet you are behaving as though the police woman is some kind of criminal.
What I propose you do, is to go to court, put on your whiniest most nasal voice like you are doing here and start crying to the judge about how naughty the police are to tick boxes without your permission. It's a sure fire winner and I, for one, am furious with the police and think you are the people's hero.
OP, I think what gets people's backs up is your utter indignancy about this.
We all assume you were using a mobile and don't particularly blame you for trying to find a way to get out of it.
What is a bit rich is the high-horse crusade you have got on over a box ticking exercise about ethnicity. It doesn't matter a tiny bit to anyone in the world and yet you are behaving as though the police woman is some kind of criminal.
What I propose you do, is to go to court, put on your whiniest most nasal voice like you are doing here and start crying to the judge about how naughty the police are to tick boxes without your permission. It's a sure fire winner and I, for one, am furious with the police and think you are the people's hero.
LoonR1 said:
Snowboy said:
I am merely suggesting I think it's what the OP believes.
I think you cropped the first line of the quote - nonetheless it could have been phrased better.
Mobile site is limited on characters so had to crop it. Obviously you don't believe it. I think you cropped the first line of the quote - nonetheless it could have been phrased better.
I think it's unlikely for a 'minor' crime.
But I wouldn't be suprised if a few cops don't keep an eye on a few forums like this to see if any active cases crop up.
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