BMW X5 Police Car

[pointedstarman]

Elroy Blue said:

pointedstarman said:

Look, I don't deny that an X5 is a great car but as one of the people paying for it I'd rather a proper cost / benefit analysis be done on what's the best solution rather than keep bunging money at it because, surprise, surprise, the people who use the cars want the best (read most expensive) cars they can get thier mits on.

What, you mean like what is done before ANY car is bought.

Here is some advice. To save your internet useage, just stick your fingers in your ears and go 'la,la,la'.

As I said, assuming your in the force I hope your less condescending when on the job. Do you know what condescending means?

As for your assertion that a CBA is done, there's a pertinent saying - quality not quantity.....

[vonhosen]

pointedstarman said:

vonhosen said:

pointedstarman said:

vonhosen said:

pointedstarman said:

Elroy Blue said:

Transit for m/way patrol????

You are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY embarrassing yourself now.

No, actually I'm not.

The higher power vans carry plenty, have similar performance (when loaded) and have lower through life costs.

Believe me, if the Disco / X5 were cheaper to run over 150 - 200k miles then every breakdown company would use them.

I figure it's an image thing for the force rather than a practical issue.

You aren't looking at like for like. The Police vehicle has to perform a wider variety of roles than the AA van or delivery van.
Similar performance (X5 & transit) ????????

Tell me a situation when the van won't do the job of a Disco with the exception of off road. Then tell me why they need so many 4wd cars for the occasional bit of off roading (I'm being generous here because I suspect there's little or no call for a M'way patrol Disco to go off road) rather than a few specialist vehicles for the off road tasks.

WRT performance, yes an X5 is higher performance but a Disco is actually slower. Tell me what specific task an X5 is needed for to justify its purchase.

How many times does it need to be said ?
It's not a specific task that leads to the X5 being picked over a Transit, it's the breadth of tasks (& other considerations) that lead to it. The vehicle has to be able to perform in many key areas & the Transit would be so poor in some it would immediately be discounted as unsuitable. (ie one already highlighted - TPAC).

Assuming you're in the force I hope you're less condescending when on the job.

So the X5 is an ideal vehicle for TPAC, I guessing due to performance. So why so many slug like Disco's? If a TPAC is required do you have to retire the Disco's from the scene then because of thier performance?

Look, I don't deny that an X5 is a great car but as one of the people paying for it I'd rather a proper cost / benefit analysis be done on what's the best solution rather than keep bunging money at it because, surprise, surprise, the people who use the cars want the best (read most expensive) cars they can get thier mits on.

X5, Shoguns, Discos, Transits, are picked because they offer the best compromise (performance & cost) for the roles they are chosen for.
A proper cost/benefit analysis is performed by people employed precisely for that purpose & those decisions scrutinised by others yet again to ensure best value.

The people driving the cars don't choose them. The fleet managers choose them & they aren't Police officers & they aren't the ones you see out there driving them.

[pointedstarman]

egor110 said:

You seem to think your the only person who pays tax and that the police who drive the cars swan into a office and demand a new bmw.

Office bods with lovely spreadsheets decide what replaces outgoing the outgoing model.

I'm glad nobody's attacking me for my flash red vauxhall combi van paid for by your taxes

So you work for the postal service then???

[TPS]

pointedstarman said:

Tell me a situation when the van won't do the job of a Disco with the exception of off road. Then tell me why they need so many 4wd cars for the occasional bit of off roading (I'm being generous here because I suspect there's little or no call for a M'way patrol Disco to go off road) rather than a few specialist vehicles for the off road tasks.

WRT performance, yes an X5 is higher performance but a Disco is actually slower. Tell me what specific task an X5 is needed for to justify its purchase.

Ok here is one.

You come across a crash damaged car with its suspension all ripped out etc and sat on two wheels.
A transit will bog down and stall.The disco or X5 will drag it to the owners home let alone to the hard shoulder.

[Kinky]

pointedstarman said:

This question may well have been asked before

Correct.

And the answer is always the same.

Boring subject. Move on.