POLICE...... False evidence
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dcw@pr said:
Best of Luck...
disgusting
sorry, don't have time to read the whole thread, but that comment is a disgrace
Then maybe you should read it.
Jumping to a pre formed opinion without understanding the reasons? I think so :rolleye:
Disgusting behaviour. Making a comment without the full facts
evolution666 - read all the posts. Very unplesant for you.
Just to ask and you dont have to reply, with no inference taken either way, do you have any other convictions or serious allegations made agaisnt you in the past ie non motoring for which the police may be trying to get their own back?
Just to ask and you dont have to reply, with no inference taken either way, do you have any other convictions or serious allegations made agaisnt you in the past ie non motoring for which the police may be trying to get their own back?
gone said:
dcw@pr said:
Streetcop said:
Best of Luck...
disgusting
sorry, don't have time to read the whole thread, but that comment is a disgrace
Then maybe you should read it.
Jumping to a pre formed opinion without understanding the reasons? I think so :rolleye:
Disgusting behaviour. Making a comment without the full facts
Yeah Yeah...
>> Edited by dcw@pr on Sunday 14th November 10:59
safespeed said:
dcw@pr said:
Streetcop said:
Best of Luck...
disgusting
sorry, don't have time to read the whole thread, but that comment is a disgrace
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Thankyou
>> Edited by dcw@pr on Sunday 14th November 10:59
mungo said:
On the 5th of Feb, i was down an unlight disused road, sat with my girlfriend at about 9 pm eating a KFC
Never had one of those taste like chicken before
Reminds me of an old Bernard Manning joke......
Bloke says to his girlfriend....
"What's the difference between a penis and a leg of chicken?"
"Errr, I don't know"
"Well do you want to come on a picnic?"......
superlightr said:
evolution666 - read all the posts. Very unplesant for you.
Just to ask and you dont have to reply, with no inference taken either way, do you have any other convictions or serious allegations made agaisnt you in the past ie non motoring for which the police may be trying to get their own back?
Hi there
No convictions, no attempts at any, never had any involvemant with the law at all until i bought the Subaru....
Just to add, im relativly new to the area, i live in consett, Co Durham.
Small town, lots of pubs, lots of fighting. So on the sunday night, as this happened just outside the town, i drove into the town to drop the girlfriend back at home. We all know how it works, Radio in, CCTV picks me up (thankfully) then im stopped by the area car, then more to follow...
BIG TOWN, NOTHING TO DO
Jon
Hi there people
Well the time came and went.
After an 8 and a half hour trial, i wasnt found not guilty, better than that,
..........CASE DISMISSED
After lots of police witnesses, they basicly took there ovn case apart.
I believe somebody said before, if you stick to the truth, then the story cannot differ, tell lies and your in for trouble. Espcialy when there are 8 police witness all trying to tell the same lie.
As for the reading of statements, it was not allowed by the
.
One of the PCSO officors even testified that they had mde there pocket book notes all together 3 days after the event, which just happens to coinside with the complaint i made about the harrasment and damages...
My lawyer ran rings round them and the court clerke was on my side the whole way it would seem.
They were all sick of watching the same video, 16 times in all.
As for celebrating, not really called for, this should never have got this far, dont get me wrong, but had i been found not guilty, i would have been pleased i didnt get convicted, but the NO CASE TO ANSWER makes my complaint a whole lot easier to deal with now.
I would take great comfort if i knew that the 8 involved would be disciplined for this, but i very much doubt it. More like there going to be after me with a vengance.
A minidisk recorder complete with charger is now in the car ready for there come back....
Some faith in the legal system has now been resored, but as for the police, its going to take alot more than this to set the ball rolling back in the right direction...
A low profile will be kept for the forseable future.
Once again, thanks for all the feedback and replys...
Jon
Well the time came and went.
After an 8 and a half hour trial, i wasnt found not guilty, better than that,
..........CASE DISMISSED
After lots of police witnesses, they basicly took there ovn case apart.
I believe somebody said before, if you stick to the truth, then the story cannot differ, tell lies and your in for trouble. Espcialy when there are 8 police witness all trying to tell the same lie.
As for the reading of statements, it was not allowed by the
. One of the PCSO officors even testified that they had mde there pocket book notes all together 3 days after the event, which just happens to coinside with the complaint i made about the harrasment and damages...
My lawyer ran rings round them and the court clerke was on my side the whole way it would seem.
They were all sick of watching the same video, 16 times in all.
As for celebrating, not really called for, this should never have got this far, dont get me wrong, but had i been found not guilty, i would have been pleased i didnt get convicted, but the NO CASE TO ANSWER makes my complaint a whole lot easier to deal with now.
I would take great comfort if i knew that the 8 involved would be disciplined for this, but i very much doubt it. More like there going to be after me with a vengance.
A minidisk recorder complete with charger is now in the car ready for there come back....
Some faith in the legal system has now been resored, but as for the police, its going to take alot more than this to set the ball rolling back in the right direction...
A low profile will be kept for the forseable future.
Once again, thanks for all the feedback and replys...
Jon
A fitting result for you all round. Like you said, better keep a low profile at the moment. Now you have been vilified, you should think about a different approach to the way you present yourself on the streets so you do not get into this kind of mess again!
Your complaint will probably be dealt with seriously as you have been acquitted. I think someone is likely to be in the poo, especially if compenstion for damage to property and whatever else is awarded.
Your complaint will probably be dealt with seriously as you have been acquitted. I think someone is likely to be in the poo, especially if compenstion for damage to property and whatever else is awarded.
There are some good ones out there, trust me. Sounds very much like the right result. Well done. Very sorry to hear of the bad relationship with the BiB up your way. Certainly from my own experience of working in busy places, we don't have time to "pick" on legit people. Once a cars been stoped a few times and is known to legit, in the absence of any other info. or offences it should be left alone.
As an Inspector and the one who takes such complaints I see both sides regularly. I had one Mr. Angry demanding to know why his wife had been stopped 3 times in as many weeks, in the small hours. She drove a H plate Astra. I explained it was a directed policy to stop vehicles fitting that profile, due to the very high numbers which were being stolen. I explained I would advise the Officers on nights that she worked in a club, and was a little tired of being stopped. He did concede that the Officers were very polite and reasonable. I advised him to ensure his car had an immobilser, to which he wasn't very impressed.
He came again in the following week. Reporting his wife's Astra stolen!
As an Inspector and the one who takes such complaints I see both sides regularly. I had one Mr. Angry demanding to know why his wife had been stopped 3 times in as many weeks, in the small hours. She drove a H plate Astra. I explained it was a directed policy to stop vehicles fitting that profile, due to the very high numbers which were being stolen. I explained I would advise the Officers on nights that she worked in a club, and was a little tired of being stopped. He did concede that the Officers were very polite and reasonable. I advised him to ensure his car had an immobilser, to which he wasn't very impressed.
He came again in the following week. Reporting his wife's Astra stolen!
gone said:
A fitting result for you all round. Like you said, better keep a low profile at the moment. Now you have been vilified, you should think about a different approach to the way you present yourself on the streets so you do not get into this kind of mess again!
Your complaint will probably be dealt with seriously as you have been acquitted. I think someone is likely to be in the poo, especially if compenstion for damage to property and whatever else is awarded.
I'm rather more glad to know that evo has been vindicated.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
evolution666 said:
I believe somebody said before, if you stick to the truth, then the story cannot differ, tell lies and your in for trouble.
Glad to hear that bit of advice came good then.
Regardless suspect that you really are going to have to be whiter than Persil from now on. Shouldn't happen I know.
Anyway one up for the good guys, and justice rules.
Well done Jon, a truly excellent result.
Can I just caution you about putting too much faith in the legal system.
The credit here must go both to the wisdom of the judge on the day and the obvious skill and dedication of your lawyer.
The legal system here once again failed all of us by attempting to prosecute a motorist using highly questionable evidence.
That has nothing whatever to do with the police; it is the sole responsibility of the prosecution services, they make the decision to prosecute, the police are powerless without them.
You need to demand an explanation from the CPS as to why they proceeded to trial, and I sincerely hope your lawyer is pressing very strongly for expenses and compensation.
Can I just caution you about putting too much faith in the legal system.
The credit here must go both to the wisdom of the judge on the day and the obvious skill and dedication of your lawyer.
The legal system here once again failed all of us by attempting to prosecute a motorist using highly questionable evidence.
That has nothing whatever to do with the police; it is the sole responsibility of the prosecution services, they make the decision to prosecute, the police are powerless without them.
You need to demand an explanation from the CPS as to why they proceeded to trial, and I sincerely hope your lawyer is pressing very strongly for expenses and compensation.
Great news, we were fearing it would be a total stitch-up but it looks like the courts saw through it all and I hope those involved walked away deciding not to try it again rather than trying to do it "properly" next time (to anybody).
Good idea about the recorder - have a look into the Sanyo Xacti flash memory video recorder, less than £200 on eBay.
Gareth
Good idea about the recorder - have a look into the Sanyo Xacti flash memory video recorder, less than £200 on eBay.
Gareth
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