Racism ?

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9mm

3,128 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
neil1jnr said:
True, but I see it as the guy was having a joke, some people need to lighten up.
Possibly. Or possibly he is a racist. None of us were there so we arebt in a position to judge.
We are in a position to judge that Islam is not a race.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

130 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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9mm said:
We are in a position to judge that Islam is not a race.
Did I say it was anything to do with his initial comment? I said he may be racist. He may be.
Being pedantic appears to be the only thing you're good at. Top marks on that though. So if that's the way you want to take any discussion, I'll play too.

9mm

3,128 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
9mm said:
We are in a position to judge that Islam is not a race.
Did I say it was anything to do with his initial comment? I said he may be racist. He may be.
Being pedantic appears to be the only thing you're good at. Top marks on that though. So if that's the way you want to take any discussion, I'll play too.
He may be left handed as well but that's not relevant to the discussion. The fact that Islam is not a race however, may well be.

OTBC

289 posts

124 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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iwantagta said:
That is NOT equal to "All Muslims are terrorists" it is equal to saying "Terrorists are vastly more likely to follow the Islamic faith so there is no point in searching me as i'm not a Muslim".

Which, as pointed out earlier, is actually factually bob on at present.


For info though I DO want our security services to religiously profile people and spend greater time analysing those who are of a religion of greater risk i.e. Islamic faith, if that makes me a filthy racist so be it.


To demonstrate the veracity of your claim that most terrorists are Muslim you'd have to bread down the figures. Have you done that? The FBI have.

wolves_wanderer

12,414 posts

239 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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9mm said:
Mk3Spitfire said:
9mm said:
We are in a position to judge that Islam is not a race.
Did I say it was anything to do with his initial comment? I said he may be racist. He may be.
Being pedantic appears to be the only thing you're good at. Top marks on that though. So if that's the way you want to take any discussion, I'll play too.
He may be left handed as well but that's not relevant to the discussion. The fact that Islam is not a race however, may well be.
There is no distinction in law between racially or religiously motivated actions so your hairsplitting is entirely irrelevant.

9mm

3,128 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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OTBC said:
iwantagta said:
That is NOT equal to "All Muslims are terrorists" it is equal to saying "Terrorists are vastly more likely to follow the Islamic faith so there is no point in searching me as i'm not a Muslim".

Which, as pointed out earlier, is actually factually bob on at present.


For info though I DO want our security services to religiously profile people and spend greater time analysing those who are of a religion of greater risk i.e. Islamic faith, if that makes me a filthy racist so be it.


To demonstrate the veracity of your claim that most terrorists are Muslim you'd have to bread down the figures. Have you done that? The FBI have.
I suspect he meant, and you know he meant, the recent and current terrorist threat to us in the UK. That has very little to do with the FBI.

9mm

3,128 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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wolves_wanderer said:
9mm said:
Mk3Spitfire said:
9mm said:
We are in a position to judge that Islam is not a race.
Did I say it was anything to do with his initial comment? I said he may be racist. He may be.
Being pedantic appears to be the only thing you're good at. Top marks on that though. So if that's the way you want to take any discussion, I'll play too.
He may be left handed as well but that's not relevant to the discussion. The fact that Islam is not a race however, may well be.
There is no distinction in law between racially or religiously motivated actions so your hairsplitting is entirely irrelevant.
What's the title of the thread?

Andehh

7,123 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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neil1jnr said:
fangio said:
Nigel Worc's said:
On the basis that anyone offended by a statement like that shouldn't be doing the job of a security guard, especially at an airport, where they revel in being complete arses.

I have actually made the same remark myself, when they really did confiscate my small unopened bottle of lucozade, at Birmingham airport, despite all the documentation I carry.

Also, bear in mind the chap is 75 years old, and almost certainly, like myself, he will not bow down to this liberal PC crap.

I am surprised, but perhaps I shouldn't be, that people would support his arrest.
Sums it all up beautifully.beer
+1
So what are all of your feelings on those burning poppies, or cheering at soldiers funerals? Are the police getting involved and legals blocking them all 'liberal PC crap". Should it be 100% everyone has their own views and is fully entitled to express them whenever, and wherever they please?

Andehh

7,123 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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neil1jnr said:
fangio said:
Nigel Worc's said:
On the basis that anyone offended by a statement like that shouldn't be doing the job of a security guard, especially at an airport, where they revel in being complete arses.

I have actually made the same remark myself, when they really did confiscate my small unopened bottle of lucozade, at Birmingham airport, despite all the documentation I carry.

Also, bear in mind the chap is 75 years old, and almost certainly, like myself, he will not bow down to this liberal PC crap.

I am surprised, but perhaps I shouldn't be, that people would support his arrest.
Sums it all up beautifully.beer
+1
So what are all of your feelings on those burning poppies, or cheering at soldiers funerals? Are the police getting involved and legals blocking them all 'liberal PC crap". Should it be 100% everyone has their own views and is fully entitled to express them whenever, and wherever they please?

wolves_wanderer

12,414 posts

239 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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9mm said:
wolves_wanderer said:
9mm said:
Mk3Spitfire said:
9mm said:
We are in a position to judge that Islam is not a race.
Did I say it was anything to do with his initial comment? I said he may be racist. He may be.
Being pedantic appears to be the only thing you're good at. Top marks on that though. So if that's the way you want to take any discussion, I'll play too.
He may be left handed as well but that's not relevant to the discussion. The fact that Islam is not a race however, may well be.
There is no distinction in law between racially or religiously motivated actions so your hairsplitting is entirely irrelevant.
What's the title of the thread?
Point missed again I see.

9mm

3,128 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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wolves_wanderer said:
9mm said:
wolves_wanderer said:
9mm said:
Mk3Spitfire said:
9mm said:
We are in a position to judge that Islam is not a race.
Did I say it was anything to do with his initial comment? I said he may be racist. He may be.
Being pedantic appears to be the only thing you're good at. Top marks on that though. So if that's the way you want to take any discussion, I'll play too.
He may be left handed as well but that's not relevant to the discussion. The fact that Islam is not a race however, may well be.
There is no distinction in law between racially or religiously motivated actions so your hairsplitting is entirely irrelevant.
What's the title of the thread?
Point missed again I see.
I can't help you then.

wolves_wanderer

12,414 posts

239 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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9mm said:
wolves_wanderer said:
9mm said:
wolves_wanderer said:
9mm said:
Mk3Spitfire said:
9mm said:
We are in a position to judge that Islam is not a race.
Did I say it was anything to do with his initial comment? I said he may be racist. He may be.
Being pedantic appears to be the only thing you're good at. Top marks on that though. So if that's the way you want to take any discussion, I'll play too.
He may be left handed as well but that's not relevant to the discussion. The fact that Islam is not a race however, may well be.
There is no distinction in law between racially or religiously motivated actions so your hairsplitting is entirely irrelevant.
What's the title of the thread?
Point missed again I see.
I can't help you then.
rofl No, you certainly can't

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

130 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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wolves_wanderer said:
rofl No, you certainly can't
I don't think you're missing much!

NWTony

2,853 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
neil1jnr said:
True, but I see it as the guy was having a joke, some people need to lighten up.
Possibly. Or possibly he is a racist. None of us were there so we arebt in a position to judge.
Could be both, they aren't mutually exclusive.

thiscocks

3,133 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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on the same subject a friends parents were called 'white-trash' when eating in an Indian restaurant in Birmingham. Ofcourse this kind of racism is not important and thus police were not interested.

don4l

10,058 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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So, if a Muslim tells me that he is bot a Christian, then I can have them arrested?


OTBC

289 posts

124 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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thiscocks said:
on the same subject a friends parents were called 'white-trash' when eating in an Indian restaurant in Birmingham. Ofcourse this kind of racism is not important and thus police were not interested.
What did the police say?

Meoricin

2,880 posts

171 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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don4l said:
So, if a Muslim tells me that he is bot a Christian, then I can have them arrested?
Perhaps, if for example you were a school receptionist, and checking ID for security purposes - and he ridiculed said checks while implying that Christians are pedophiles.

Hackney

6,873 posts

210 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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MrBarry123 said:
But it is racist so I don't understand your point?
Don't talk bks.

Aside from the "muslim isn't a race" argument, it's still not.

I'm not black.

Is that racist? No, it's bloody not. Because guess what, I'm not black.
Jesus Christ if this is how the professionally offended have got us all thinking god help us.

Hackney

6,873 posts

210 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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MrBarry123 said:
Nigel Worc's said:
Also, bear in mind the chap is 75 years old, and almost certainly, like myself, he will not bow down to this liberal PC crap.
And therefore from a generation which deemed it okay to include signs reading 'No dogs, no blacks, no Irish' in hotel windows.

Whilst that generation may have done a lot for this country, they wouldn't be the generation you'd ask to return for a lesson in equality.
Astounding logic. Because someone saw a sign somewhere in the 50's / 60's or whenever then all people alive at the time must be racist? Are you sure?

Only a few months ago a soldier was killed with a machete in broad daylight, presumably you're of "that generation" so by your logic you're a machete wielding soldier killer. Get a grip.