Police Officer Smashes Windscreen

Police Officer Smashes Windscreen

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Alpinestars

13,954 posts

259 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Savage found guilty of gross misconduct by the IOPC.

“A police misconduct panel found the officer breached standards as he had forcefully smashed the window without warning.
He was also found to have lost control and to have been carrying the knife without permission.”

A1VDY

3,575 posts

142 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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79 pages of debating by PH (experts... Not) and not one of you lot were there.
It only concerns two people but this type of thing always seems to attract the nerdy, goofy know it alls, get a life ffs..

Graveworm

8,838 posts

86 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Alpinestars said:
Savage found guilty of gross misconduct by the IOPC.

“A police misconduct panel found the officer breached standards as he had forcefully smashed the window without warning.
He was also found to have lost control and to have been carrying the knife without permission.”
Just a slight technicality the IOPC didn't find him guilty. The Met Police misconduct panel did.

CoolHands

20,778 posts

210 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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So if he’d issued a warning would he have got away with it? “I’m going to break the window if you don’t exit”. Then the only problem would be the knife.

Schoolboy error smile

Chris32345

2,135 posts

77 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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TVR1 said:
Did you choose to ignore the part in all of the reporting that then goes on to say

'Released without charge?'

Or would that be an uncomfortable truth, that the chap involved had done nothing wrong, other than 'being in the possession of curly black hair and thick lips'.
Or the CPS decided there wasn't enough evidence to make a charge stick in court
And that's the reason so many people get off with things they are guilty off

anonymous-user

69 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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He resigned prior to the hearing so I don’t think the sanction will matter too much to him...

Nearly three years for something so minor!




wjb

5,100 posts

146 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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La Liga said:
He resigned prior to the hearing so I don’t think the sanction will matter too much to him...

Nearly three years for something so minor!
He should've resigned as soon as he got back to the station that day...

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

259 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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wjb said:
La Liga said:
He resigned prior to the hearing so I don’t think the sanction will matter too much to him...

Nearly three years for something so minor!
He should've resigned as soon as he got back to the station that day...
If he can’t control his temper in what must be pretty standard police situation, he shouldn’t have been a policeman in the first place. Undermines public trust.

Countdown

44,476 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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La Liga said:
He resigned prior to the hearing so I don’t think the sanction will matter too much to him...

Nearly three years for something so minor!
Does he still get to keep his pension?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

259 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Chris32345 said:
TVR1 said:
Did you choose to ignore the part in all of the reporting that then goes on to say

'Released without charge?'

Or would that be an uncomfortable truth, that the chap involved had done nothing wrong, other than 'being in the possession of curly black hair and thick lips'.
Or the CPS decided there wasn't enough evidence to make a charge stick in court
And that's the reason so many people get off with things they are guilty off
He hadn't done anything wrong. A case of mistaken identity as the car was associated with a gangsta. The judge even commented on the least the met could do is pay for the windscreen given they’d targeted an innocent man.

Graveworm

8,838 posts

86 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Countdown said:
Does he still get to keep his pension?
Yes even if he doesn't resign. Losing (Most) of their pension happens only "if the grantee has been convicted of an offence committed in connection with his service as a member of a police force which is certified by the Secretary of State either to have been gravely injurious to the interests of the state or to be liable to lead to serious loss of confidence in the public services."

It's pretty rare.

Red 4

10,744 posts

202 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Graveworm said:
Countdown said:
Does he still get to keep his pension?
Yes even if he doesn't resign. Losing (Most) of their pension happens only "if the grantee has been convicted of an offence committed in connection with his service as a member of a police force which is certified by the Secretary of State either to have been gravely injurious to the interests of the state or to be liable to lead to serious loss of confidence in the public services."

It's pretty rare.
Or treason.

Or an offence ( or offences ) under The Official Secrets Act to which he has been sentenced to a term of at least 10 years imprisonment.

Regulation K5 iirc.

pavarotti1980

5,726 posts

99 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Countdown said:
Does he still get to keep his pension?
Why shouldn't he keep his pension?

It will be st anyway given the small number of years contribution

Red 4

10,744 posts

202 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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pavarotti1980 said:
Countdown said:
Does he still get to keep his pension?
Why shouldn't he keep his pension?

It will be st anyway given the small number of years contribution
... And deferred until he is 60 ( or possibly 67/ 68 ).

Countdown

44,476 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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pavarotti1980 said:
Countdown said:
Does he still get to keep his pension?
Why shouldn't he keep his pension?

It will be st anyway given the small number of years contribution
Just thinking that might be one option of punishing him.

Red 4

10,744 posts

202 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Countdown said:
pavarotti1980 said:
Countdown said:
Does he still get to keep his pension?
Why shouldn't he keep his pension?

It will be st anyway given the small number of years contribution
Just thinking that might be one option of punishing him.
He jumped before he was pushed and has lost his job.

Isn't that enough ?

Why should he also lose a ( small,deferred) pension he has contributed to ?

Would you lose your pension if you were sacked ( or resigned) from your job ?