12 Points on the Horizon...

12 Points on the Horizon...

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TwigtheWonderkid

43,599 posts

151 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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roofer said:
the fact that doing 65 on a perfectly clear motorway is dangerous,
Can you link to some evidence for this assertion.

roofer

Original Poster:

5,136 posts

212 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
roofer said:
the fact that doing 65 on a perfectly clear motorway is dangerous,
Can you link to some evidence for this assertion.
Must be, it's why they put the variable on, no ?

Despite doing mile after mile, not an incident or evidence of one in sight, as is usual 99% of the time on the M25.

No jams showing on nav screen ( which is remarkably accurate) but the variable is on.

Peter and the Wolf ?

TwigtheWonderkid

43,599 posts

151 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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roofer said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
roofer said:
the fact that doing 65 on a perfectly clear motorway is dangerous,
Can you link to some evidence for this assertion.
Must be, it's why they put the variable on, no ?

Despite doing mile after mile, not an incident or evidence of one in sight, as is usual 99% of the time on the M25.

No jams showing on nav screen ( which is remarkably accurate) but the variable is on.

Peter and the Wolf ?
Are you on glue??

Can you provide some actual evidence that doing 65, 5mph below the limit, on a clear m/way, is dangerous?

roofer

Original Poster:

5,136 posts

212 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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Did you read the first line ?

It must be, it's why I got photographed doing it...Is it sinking in?

mygoldfishbowl

3,720 posts

144 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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hora said:
Meh I am a cyclist but I'm also secure I'm my manliness wink
Good for you. smile

TwigtheWonderkid

43,599 posts

151 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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roofer said:
Did you read the first line ?

It must be, it's why I got photographed doing it...Is it sinking in?
Yes, when the limit has been reduced to 50. That's a slightly different thing.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Can you provide some actual evidence that doing 65, 5mph below the limit, on a clear m/way, is dangerous?
There is plenty of very solid evidence that 65 is a bigger number than 50, though, which is much more relevant here.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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roofer said:
Did you read the first line ?

It must be, it's why I got photographed doing it...Is it sinking in?
It's fk all to with whether it's dangerous or not. The fact is we are stuck with the law as it is. Cameras are part of that whether we like it or not.

Most of us don't but we learn how to get about without falling foul.

To blunder on and pick up 12 points cannot be described as anything other than dumb, in all honesty.

Davidonly

1,080 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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anonymous said:
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Davidonly

1,080 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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anonymous said:
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+1 smile

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Davidonly said:
anonymous said:
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+1 smile
Nice for people who get to choose the roads they use, and perhaps drive/ride for enjoyment only.
Somewhat of a nuisance for those who drive for work and have to spend hours on motorways and dual carriageways and be subjected to speeds that would put someone with ADHD to sleep. Or ignore them and risk unjustifiable punishment.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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anonymous said:
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The irony of the fact that I can do more than double the limit in most 60's and am highly unlikely to be caught whereas sitting at 90+ on the motorway, or worse still a dual-carriageway, is far more likely to get a 'catch' is not lost on me.

WJNB

2,637 posts

162 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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4rephill said:
hora said:
...Stop acting as though 'speed' makes approaching-middle aged men look edgy, cool and young again.
Middle age men speed because it's one of the few ways we can match the young kids without getting exhausted from the effort!

If there is one action that makes women laugh & young people laugh even more is the pathetic sight of the middle-aged male so feeble of mind as to be incapable of accepting the advance of years. Those with the most lasting of laughs are the purveyors of hair colouring & sports cars.



blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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roofer said:
The only'advice' I asked for, is if anyone had experienced a similar situation.

It's cameras, a hazard of the job I do, and probably many others too. I won't change my attitude to the fact that the motorist is an easy cash cow, nor the fact that doing 65 on a perfectly clear motorway is dangerous, as previously, zombie mode, etc.

If I get a ban, I'm lucky enough to be in a position to work round it, that doesn't mean I'm not going to explore all avenues to avoid or reduce it.

Now there's some cheeky fekks on here, but I'm a big boy, I've already agreed they have a point, but those that use the distance and anonymity of the Internet to get brave should get back to their exam studies...

Shouldn't they Maxxy...
Hope this doesn't sound sanctimonious because along with most of this website I regularly speed too.
But....if I was so unobservant that I got caught twice by a camera, let alone 4 times in a single year, then I would seriously question my attention span and thus my safety in speeding. I got caught for the first time this year and I was hugely embarrassed because it is so stupid.
4 times. One year.

4rephill

5,042 posts

179 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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WJNB said:
4rephill said:
hora said:
...Stop acting as though 'speed' makes approaching-middle aged men look edgy, cool and young again.
Middle age men speed because it's one of the few ways we can match the young kids without getting exhausted from the effort!

If there is one action that makes women laugh & young people laugh even more is the pathetic sight of the middle-aged male so feeble of mind as to be incapable of accepting the advance of years. Those with the most lasting of laughs are the purveyors of hair colouring & sports cars.
So, if you were/are middle aged, you wouldn't buy a sportscar because you're concerned that women and young people will laugh at you? - Fcensoredk Me! How sad is that?

Who gives a scensoredt what they think? - I buy the cars that I want for Myself, not for everyone else around Me!

As for your theory that middle-aged men buy sportscars because they're "so feeble of mind as to be incapable of accepting the advance of years" - What a generalised load of old bcensoredks!

The main reason middle aged men buy sportscars is because their families have finally grown up , the mortgage has been paid off, and they can finally afford to have the toy they always promised themselves (And yes, there are some middle-aged men out to impress young girls with their sportscars, desperately trying to deny that they're getting old, but there are far fewer of those than you seem to think there are!)

I hate to think what a sad, boring old fart you're going to be as you get older, trundling around at 20 mph everywhere in a Honda Jazz automatic (or dare you risk the Honda Civic? You'd need to be careful which Civic you buy - Choose one that's too sporty and someone might laugh! eek ).







The Mad Monk

10,493 posts

118 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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How did you get on roofer?

Any news?

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

180 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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The Mad Monk said:
How did you get on roofer?

Any news?
Been kidnapped by BRAKE Activist, I reckon!

roofer

Original Poster:

5,136 posts

212 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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The Mad Monk said:
How did you get on roofer?

Any news?
Only sent the NIP back Friday after they sent a reminder. No doubt something will land on the mat this week.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

180 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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roofer said:
Only sent the NIP back Friday after they sent a reminder. No doubt something will land on the mat this week.
They better get a move one might have another ticket in the next 3 months going on your previous record.

Get the pedal to metal good buddy.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

189 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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roofer said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
roofer said:
the fact that doing 65 on a perfectly clear motorway is dangerous,
Can you link to some evidence for this assertion.
Must be, it's why they put the variable on, no ?

Despite doing mile after mile, not an incident or evidence of one in sight, as is usual 99% of the time on the M25.

No jams showing on nav screen ( which is remarkably accurate) but the variable is on.

Peter and the Wolf ?
I wish you well, I hate scameras, Brake, and the welsh git 2CVs, so I'm true blue PH.

I too have been frustrated by lots and lots of nothing signs over the years, I do about 30k these days.

The older posters will probably remember the dashcam footage I put on here one day, it was a few years ago now, but this one incident frightened me so much that it still affects how I drive today.

I was driving down the M40 on a bright sunny afternoon, I had been passing "incident" with a suggested (not mandatory) 50 sign for mile after mile after mile after effing mile.

I could see for miles ahead, there was no obstructions, no danger, no queues, nothing.

I got bored, sped up, overtook a couple of vehicles and put my car (probably in excess of 70 mph), about a foot from a persons head, he had been ejected from a car and was lay half in half out of the central reservation with another person bent over him.

Bad luck that I got bored, bloody good luck that I missed them.

I'll find you the footage if you want, it demonstrates to me just how little detail you can actually process at what we consider to be normal speeds these days.

There may have been no animals, they may have been cleared before you got there, or you may have passed them and not noticed.

As I said, good luck.