Caught speeding - 125mph on A2 Kent!!!! Hellllp

[agtlaw]

kippax said:

If prosecuted for speeding only then yes 56 day ban is the maximum.

Wrong.

[MrOrange]

agtlaw said:

Wrong.

Agreed. I got 125 days for speeding.

[RDMcG]

I do think that the best course of action in all such cases is to get good competent legal counsel. The web is a good place to discuss these things, but, like the threads where people try to self diagnose illnesses, there are reasons why professionals exist and why they provide value. ( I am not a doctor nor do I have anything to do with the legal profession).
However, in speeding situations in various jurisdictions I have had proper representation, and it is worth every penny in my experience.

[JacquesMesrine]

kiethton said:

Plan to, just need to see what precautions I can take to limit the impact/minimise the fine...we all know it's a load of bks anyway...if The basic assumption is £440 and I actually earn double its easier to let them roll with what they have. In the meantime I can get my salary paid elsewhere/take responsibility for commitments I don't normally have my weekly income number will equate to a fine lower than it would normally. Managed to get off the last instance with a pretty small bribe, shame it couldn't be done this time eh'

Only thing that pisses me off is that today they decided to give me a S59 in addition, why?, because when I was pulled out on I ended up a little too close behind a moron that couldn't use their mirrors- need to work out how I appeal this as I don't accept it on reflection, thing is I can't see a way to do this - I am going to put a private plate on the car so I don't have the marker pinging up though...

Long and short of it is although I clocked the car it was obviously too late, I have enough st to put up with, I'm capable of driving far faster as is the car, being banned for longer than a week or at a push 2 is no go, I can't get to work without a motorbike so couldn't pay bills that'd be far worse for the economy eh'

Out of interest are the summons letters sent signed for - as I currently don't live anywhere fixed its going to my parents, can they just turn it away so it 6m times out?

I think that should form the basis of your coverings letter. I'm sure your legal representative would advise the same.

After all, you're showing zero remorse, dismissing what you did as par for the course, blaming someone that you caught up for having to slow down, fiddling your income and pretty well heading into perjury (or PCOJ) with those lies.

Excellent work.

[agtlaw]

MrOrange said:

Agreed. I got 125 days for speeding.

The previous poster failed to identify that there is no maximum ban for speeding.

There are guidelines for driving up to 110 mph. Above that speed, there isn't a national guideline; and the law permits an unlimited ban for any speed.

The Yorkshire guidelines indicate 56+ days (Band C fine) for driving at 111+ and on a couple of occasions I've had a 3 month ban for driving at very high excess speeds.

[cat with a hat]

kiethton said:

Plan to, just need to see what precautions I can take to limit the impact/minimise the fine...we all know it's a load of bks anyway...if The basic assumption is £440 and I actually earn double its easier to let them roll with what they have. In the meantime I can get my salary paid elsewhere/take responsibility for commitments I don't normally have my weekly income number will equate to a fine lower than it would normally. Managed to get off the last instance with a pretty small bribe, shame it couldn't be done this time eh'

Only thing that pisses me off is that today they decided to give me a S59 in addition, why?, because when I was pulled out on I ended up a little too close behind a moron that couldn't use their mirrors- need to work out how I appeal this as I don't accept it on reflection, thing is I can't see a way to do this - I am going to put a private plate on the car so I don't have the marker pinging up though...

Long and short of it is although I clocked the car it was obviously too late, I have enough st to put up with, I'm capable of driving far faster as is the car, being banned for longer than a week or at a push 2 is no go, I can't get to work without a motorbike so couldn't pay bills that'd be far worse for the economy eh'

Out of interest are the summons letters sent signed for - as I currently don't live anywhere fixed its going to my parents, can they just turn it away so it 6m times out?

A section 59 means basically practically nothing.. I'm fairly sure all that happens if they can seize your vehicle next time and then you have to pay a nominal fee to get it back?

[tapereel]

JacquesMesrine said:

kiethton said:

Plan to, just need to see what precautions I can take to limit the impact/minimise the fine...we all know it's a load of bks anyway...if The basic assumption is £440 and I actually earn double its easier to let them roll with what they have. In the meantime I can get my salary paid elsewhere/take responsibility for commitments I don't normally have my weekly income number will equate to a fine lower than it would normally. Managed to get off the last instance with a pretty small bribe, shame it couldn't be done this time eh'

Only thing that pisses me off is that today they decided to give me a S59 in addition, why?, because when I was pulled out on I ended up a little too close behind a moron that couldn't use their mirrors- need to work out how I appeal this as I don't accept it on reflection, thing is I can't see a way to do this - I am going to put a private plate on the car so I don't have the marker pinging up though...

Long and short of it is although I clocked the car it was obviously too late, I have enough st to put up with, I'm capable of driving far faster as is the car, being banned for longer than a week or at a push 2 is no go, I can't get to work without a motorbike so couldn't pay bills that'd be far worse for the economy eh'

Out of interest are the summons letters sent signed for - as I currently don't live anywhere fixed its going to my parents, can they just turn it away so it 6m times out?

I think that should form the basis of your coverings letter. I'm sure your legal representative would advise the same.

After all, you're showing zero remorse, dismissing what you did as par for the course, blaming someone that you caught up for having to slow down, fiddling your income and pretty well heading into perjury (or PCOJ) with those lies.

Excellent work.

An excellent summary. I can't imagine how the magistrates could even dream of inconveniencing this bloke.

[Soov535]

kiethton said:

we all know it's a load of bks anyway

I can get my salary paid elsewhere/take responsibility for commitments I don't normally have my weekly income number will equate to a fine lower than it would normally

Managed to get off the last instance with a pretty small bribe, shame it couldn't be done this time eh

Only thing that pisses me off is that today they decided to give me a S59 in addition, why

how I appeal this as I don't accept it

I am going to put a private plate on the car so I don't have the marker pinging up

I have enough st to put up with, I'm capable of driving far faster as is the car

I currently don't live anywhere fixed its going to my parents, can they just turn it away so it 6m times out?

With all due respect you sound like a fackin liability, and exactly the kind of client who eventually made me give up this sort of work many years ago.

You got caught, you'll get banned and there is nothing you can do about it. Best get your wallet out as well.


And if I was you I'd adjust my attitude when you go to court, otherwise you will get a proper pole-ing. Which might be a good thing as it'll keep you off the roads my son uses on his bike.

Good luck on the bus.


FFS.

Edited by Soov535 on Monday 15th February 09:59

Edited by Soov535 on Monday 15th February 10:00

[kiethton]

Of course my own personal opinions will not be expressed in the courtroom, in fact I am to publicly portray the opposite, despite my opinions I can bluff pretty well...

I'm sure your son will be fine on his bike, sure he won't be cycling on a motorway... (I'm also a keen cyclist and commute on a motorbike, necessitated by working hours and station proximity)

Don't see how temporarily reducing income amounts to pergery really?!? - can only base things on a number in front of me, if it goes back up subsequently so be it...a negative statement of means can only help reduce my affordability on paper.

Hopefully it'll only be a short ban, makes little difference to insurance costs. The traffic was light, conditions were good and I've got a clear license, necessity of the license for my outside of work charitable commitments coupled with the inconvenience to others should help limit the damage also. Let's see if anything drops through the door and we'll go from there.

[Soov535]

kiethton said:

Of course my own personal opinions will not be expressed in the courtroom, in fact I am to publicly portray the opposite, despite my opinions I can bluff pretty well...

Don't see how temporarily reducing income amounts to pergery really?!? - can only base things on a number in front of me, if it goes back up subsequently so be it...a negative statement of means can only help reduce my affordability on paper.

Hopefully it'll only be a short ban, makes little difference to insurance costs. The traffic was light, conditions were good and I've got a clear license, necessity of the license for my outside of work charitable commitments coupled with the inconvenience to others should help limit the damage also. Let's see if anything drops through the door and we'll go from there.

It's perjury to not tell the truth to a court.

Don't do it. That's the one bit of advice I always gave clients - don't commit perjury over a minor offence and end up getting banged up for your trouble.

[kiethton]

Of course, I'd loose my job alongside everything else owing to FCA regs.

If I was however being paid less, with official payslips showing the same surely that's not perjury? My issue is that although my income looks healthy on paper it's an awful lot tighter month to month than some, fear the fine won't reflect the liabilities I'm also committed to...

I will state that yes, I was rather belligerent last night, primarily owing to frustration, as said on reflection and running some numbers a short ban is ok, adding only £60 to my insurance quotes, it would just hugely inconvenience the girlfriend as I'd need dropping 5 miles to a station at 5:30 each morning, hence the motorbike..

[johnwilliams77]

kiethton said:

Hopefully it'll only be a short ban, makes little difference to insurance costs.

Are you sure about that jenson?

[kiethton]

johnwilliams77 said:

kiethton said:

Hopefully it'll only be a short ban, makes little difference to insurance costs.

Are you sure about that jenson?

Indeed, so says both the meerkats and confused - adds £65, although the base cost without this declared, as am now is 30% higher

[johnwilliams77]

kiethton said:

Indeed, so says both the meerkats and confused - adds £65, although the base cost without this declared, as am now is 30% higher

It should be cheaper for you. Since you and the car are capable of driving everywhere at 150mph.

[Soov535]

kiethton said:

Of course, I'd loose my job alongside everything else owing to FCA regs.

If I was however being paid less, with official payslips showing the same surely that's not perjury? My issue is that although my income looks healthy on paper it's an awful lot tighter month to month than some, fear the fine won't reflect the liabilities I'm also committed to...

I will state that yes, I was rather belligerent last night, primarily owing to frustration, as said on reflection and running some numbers a short ban is ok, adding only £60 to my insurance quotes, it would just hugely inconvenience the girlfriend as I'd need dropping 5 miles to a station at 5:30 each morning, hence the motorbike..

It's lose.

How did you get an FCA reg with spelling like that?!

[kiethton]

Indeed, time and place but a brief 109mph on a quiet motorway isn't the worst And not in any way dangerous (CC was set at 90 but not being used at that point typically)

Microsoft's spell checker saves my life, helps to compensate for my dyslexia, don't necessarily get it right when on the phone

[surveyor_101]

kiethton said:

Of course, I'd loose my job alongside everything else owing to FCA regs.

If I was however being paid less, with official payslips showing the same surely that's not perjury? My issue is that although my income looks healthy on paper it's an awful lot tighter month to month than some, fear the fine won't reflect the liabilities I'm also committed to...

I will state that yes, I was rather belligerent last night, primarily owing to frustration, as said on reflection and running some numbers a short ban is ok, adding only £60 to my insurance quotes, it would just hugely inconvenience the girlfriend as I'd need dropping 5 miles to a station at 5:30 each morning, hence the motorbike..

Would it not worth thinking that prior to traveling at such a high speed. Think I will do in 120 plus along here I mean worse case scenario if I get caught.gf will have to run us to the train station at 5.30 am.

Seems a pretty selfish attitude.

In fact all your arguments have been about you, you.

125 isn't speeding it's taking the piss. 80-90-99 is speeding.

[johnwilliams77]

surveyor_101 said:

Would it not worth thinking that prior to traveling at such a high speed. Think I will do in 120 plus along here I mean worse case scenario if I get caught.gf will have to run us to the train station at 5.30 am.

Seems a pretty selfish attitude.

In fact all your arguments have been about you, you.

125 isn't speeding it's taking the piss. 80-90-99 is speeding.

He was doing 109. Still, completely extracting the urine.

[kiethton]

surveyor_101 said:

kiethton said:

Of course, I'd loose my job alongside everything else owing to FCA regs.

If I was however being paid less, with official payslips showing the same surely that's not perjury? My issue is that although my income looks healthy on paper it's an awful lot tighter month to month than some, fear the fine won't reflect the liabilities I'm also committed to...

I will state that yes, I was rather belligerent last night, primarily owing to frustration, as said on reflection and running some numbers a short ban is ok, adding only £60 to my insurance quotes, it would just hugely inconvenience the girlfriend as I'd need dropping 5 miles to a station at 5:30 each morning, hence the motorbike..

Would it not worth thinking that prior to traveling at such a high speed. Think I will do in 120 plus along here I mean worse case scenario if I get caught.gf will have to run us to the train station at 5.30 am.

Seems a pretty selfish attitude.

In fact all your arguments have been about you, you.

125 isn't speeding it's taking the piss. 80-90-99 is speeding.

Thing is I wasn't going at 125, had the CC set at 90 but accelerated beyond this is a non-traffic bit of motorway for all of a few seconds, having just done 6k miles in a 0.9 Sandero I wasn't aware how fast it'd gone up (E39 540i) as it's rather insulated and quick in comparison.

I'm fine with a short ban, it's more that is the effect it'll have on others including the above, plus the charity that I do work for in my evenings etc.

[Soov535]

kiethton said:

surveyor_101 said:

kiethton said:

Of course, I'd loose my job alongside everything else owing to FCA regs.

If I was however being paid less, with official payslips showing the same surely that's not perjury? My issue is that although my income looks healthy on paper it's an awful lot tighter month to month than some, fear the fine won't reflect the liabilities I'm also committed to...

I will state that yes, I was rather belligerent last night, primarily owing to frustration, as said on reflection and running some numbers a short ban is ok, adding only £60 to my insurance quotes, it would just hugely inconvenience the girlfriend as I'd need dropping 5 miles to a station at 5:30 each morning, hence the motorbike..

Would it not worth thinking that prior to traveling at such a high speed. Think I will do in 120 plus along here I mean worse case scenario if I get caught.gf will have to run us to the train station at 5.30 am.

Seems a pretty selfish attitude.

In fact all your arguments have been about you, you.

125 isn't speeding it's taking the piss. 80-90-99 is speeding.

Thing is I wasn't going at 125, had the CC set at 90 but accelerated beyond this is a non-traffic bit of motorway for all of a few seconds, having just done 6k miles in a 0.9 Sandero I wasn't aware how fast it'd gone up (E39 540i) as it's rather insulated and quick in comparison.

I'm fine with a short ban, it's more that is the effect it'll have on others including the above, plus the charity that I do work for in my evenings etc.

"The car ran away with me".......


I'd suggest you tell them this. It will certainly help.........