BMW X5 Police Car
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pointedstarman said:
The discounted list of a BMW is still way above the list of a Skoda which could depreciate to £0 and still be cheaper to run that any 3 litre BMW.
It seems to me that, as with many public sector institutions, they don't know thier a*se from thier elbow when it comes to keeping costs down.
Mention reducing a forces budget and the immediate response is the usual hysterics of "less police on the front line" BS rather than really looking at where to save money. The car thing is a sympton of said incompetance.
So even after Dibble has explained,you still do not get it do you?It seems to me that, as with many public sector institutions, they don't know thier a*se from thier elbow when it comes to keeping costs down.
Mention reducing a forces budget and the immediate response is the usual hysterics of "less police on the front line" BS rather than really looking at where to save money. The car thing is a sympton of said incompetance.
They need certain cars for certain jobs.
They do not pay full list cost.
A Skoda is not gong to tow a crash damaged car etc..
pointedstarman said:
ben5732 said:
Volvo and BMW also offer a much longer warranty to police forces than other marks. Also in the case of traffic... If my car gets stolen I'd rather they be able to catch the idiot than wave as it flies past. The older V70s could take a fair amount of abuse and could carry a decent load. I don't think they could catch someone with a fully loaded police vehicle if they were driving a 520D.
Skoda VRs is type approved, has similar performance (have owned / driven both) and is 50% the price of the BMW. It'd be a similar story with a Mondeo (given the number of Focus cars used I would guess Ford offer cars on good terms).The maths do not add up whichever way you look at it.
The whole life costs of all makes can easily be found and BMW are rarely near the lower end of the list, regardless of discounts which wouldn't vary that much from make to make.
A Skoda maybe wouldn't make for such good TV?
pointedstarman said:
it don't justify buying BMW's / Disco's etc over Skoda's / Hyundai's etc when the latter are a) more reliable; b) available with similar discounts but from far lower list prices; c) cheaper to service.
Get a disco and get a skoda.Hook it up to a hgv and let me know which one pulls the hgv out of lane one and to safety.REALIST123 said:
You're right but you won't get far here.
The whole life costs of all makes can easily be found and BMW are rarely near the lower end of the list, regardless of discounts which wouldn't vary that much from make to make.
A Skoda maybe wouldn't make for such good TV?
Is that main dealer service costs though.The whole life costs of all makes can easily be found and BMW are rarely near the lower end of the list, regardless of discounts which wouldn't vary that much from make to make.
A Skoda maybe wouldn't make for such good TV?
Police will use their own garage so costs are less.
pointedstarman said:
Skoda VRs is type approved, has similar performance (have owned / driven both) and is 50% the price of the BMW. It'd be a similar story with a Mondeo (given the number of Focus cars used I would guess Ford offer cars on good terms).
The maths do not add up whichever way you look at it.
You are embarrassing yourself now. The maths do not add up whichever way you look at it.
(Go on, tell me how much we pay for a Jag XF compared to a Police spec Mondeo. Now tell me what weight they can carry and what a m/way car is equipped with. Now tell me what an 18 month old example with 180'000m is worth)
Just so it's clear, cars are a tool. They buy the cheapest that can do the job. Your Mondeo is neither cheaper, nor can they do the job
Also regarding the Ford mondeo... We have had them in tac group up here, one was written off and the other sounds like its about to blow up while its only 3 years old and on its last legs, yet we have 04 vectras still going around, the T5s have only gone out of service as they were out of warranty and very high mileage. Need a balance between reliability/speed/cost to run/sell on price. The skoda or mondeo ain't gonna sit at high speed as well as a specialist volvo/bmw.
pointedstarman said:
Skoda VRs is type approved, has similar performance (have owned / driven both) and is 50% the price of the BMW. It'd be a similar story with a Mondeo (given the number of Focus cars used I would guess Ford offer cars on good terms).
The maths do not add up whichever way you look at it.
We had a skoda Vrs, it was great for the first few months, then it was just a nightmare. It just didn't handle the driving it was put through. It had numerous problems and didn't last nearly as long as the Volvo/BMWs we have. Therefore was never cost effective.The maths do not add up whichever way you look at it.
We have Focus's, and mondeo's on Division, the mondeo's are in no way anywhere near Volvo's or BMW's.
I understand what you are saying in terms of costs, but trust me these are gone through by the powers that be taking into account all the life costs of the vehicles. The total number of these type of vehicles has been cut right back to save costs (as has all vehicles in the fleet) so much so that there can be a shortage at times!!!
T5R+ said:
The bit I cannot figure ...........why the Police are not allowed to "keep" the impounded vehicles and use them eg the number of decent 4x4's and German tackle, that the undesirables own and surely must be impounded would beggar belief.
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Edited by Swoxy on Thursday 15th November 20:15
TPS said:
pointedstarman said:
it don't justify buying BMW's / Disco's etc over Skoda's / Hyundai's etc when the latter are a) more reliable; b) available with similar discounts but from far lower list prices; c) cheaper to service.
Get a disco and get a skoda.Hook it up to a hgv and let me know which one pulls the hgv out of lane one and to safety.But I'm guessing from what's been said that a fair number of the posters on here are from Her Majesty's Constabulary and if you'd rather have a flash car than more police (or, indeed, risk your job so the rest of your coleagues can drive BMW's) then fine.
pointedstarman said:
TPS said:
pointedstarman said:
it don't justify buying BMW's / Disco's etc over Skoda's / Hyundai's etc when the latter are a) more reliable; b) available with similar discounts but from far lower list prices; c) cheaper to service.
Get a disco and get a skoda.Hook it up to a hgv and let me know which one pulls the hgv out of lane one and to safety.But I'm guessing from what's been said that a fair number of the posters on here are from Her Majesty's Constabulary and if you'd rather have a flash car than more police (or, indeed, risk your job so the rest of your coleagues can drive BMW's) then fine.
pointedstarman said:
But I'm guessing from what's been said that a fair number of the posters on here are from Her Majesty's Constabulary and if you'd rather have a flash car than more police (or, indeed, risk your job so the rest of your coleagues can drive BMW's) then fine.
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