Quick One really....
Discussion
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I'm not surprised that there is so much debate about this.
I recall a Who-Wants-To-Be-Fecking-Rich where NOONE got the fastest-fingers question right. The question was....
What order do traffic lights change colour?
8 people, not one knew the right answer.
I remember that too
all NUMPTIES the lot of them.... I was almost embarrased for humanity on that one... 
Cheers
Matt.
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I agree with the red-amber bit especially as the numpties I've seen would take that long to get it into gear and pull off you'd only get one car through! I didn't think the mini had very good acceleration but the amount of times I've pulled off and checked in my mirrors to see numpties still at the lights!
Perhaps a sign saying "You'll be able to go in a minute, see that lever to the left, you can put it in 1st, check the diagram on top of the knob, if you're not sure, thats right. Ignore the nasty man behind you beeping his horn, remember speed kills"
Even easier if ur in a slushmatic (hence the mercedes)...
>> Edited by neil_cardiff on Thursday 20th June 12:48
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Some countries do have lights that go from red straight to green, always seemed a good idea to me.
South Africa for one have RED ---> GREEN for GO And AMBER --> RED for STOP. BUT Woman are allowed to use all red lights after 9:00pm as a FOUR WAY STOP .. Oh yes, there are only about ten round-abouts in the whole country! brings me to ask why the F
are there sooo many round-abouts in the UK?? .. They slow you down too much !! HEHEH Ok, I'll get my helmet and leave!
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[ brings me to ask why the F
I love those roundabouts!
Like this one:
[IMG]www.attrition.org/gallery/auto/this_way.jpg[/IMG]
(hope images work here)
I saw one of those camera's get an HGV the other day! It wasn't at traffic lights, it was a level crossing without a barrier, the guy was taking pigs to a slaughter house and the access was the other side of the level crossing , so he was slowing down, stopped to let traffic go by and then pulled away again, as he pulled away the lights went on and he got flashed because his rear wheels activated those pressure points in the road! 
The funiest part was, when he was leaving, two poor blokes had pulled up and where emptying the film out of one of the camera's, need I go on......
The funiest part was, when he was leaving, two poor blokes had pulled up and where emptying the film out of one of the camera's, need I go on......
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Arse! That'll teach me to spout forth without checking.
I stand corrected, and apologise
I guess I was too preoccuppied with my thoughts for Oulton Park on Saturday where the start lights definately go straight from Red to Green
I'll go hide now.
What were you racing? I was there with Graham (Honest I didn't see the black flag y'honour
) Walden and his Tasmin. 
Didn't see much of the racing though.
Congratulations to Graham though for bagging sixth place. PS cheers for letting me pass spanners. Had a great time. Hope you get your motor sorted without too much hassle.
Sorry, just commenting on the original post - the pictures are interpretted by someone. As Madcop says, it is a judgement call to see if you are "taking the piss". Consider the scenarios that could lead to a false prosecution if they relied on the picture alone?
1) Trundling through some lights following a very slow load - passed on green one side, took ages to cross junction to the point that I was in the middle while on red - nothing I can do and certainly not my fault.
2) Truck turning left or right at junction - pulls out blocking traffic to get turn around. Hence blocking people that have legally entered the camera zone - forcing them to stop and therefore be potentially flashed.
3) Incorrect light sequencing - seen this several times. Sequence goes completely awol and you are on green suddenly to be then red. And yes the Police were there as everyone was shit-scared to use the junction with the camera on it!!!!
The list goes on - you might be flashed, but like with the speed cameras, they are there to catch the people that blatantly do it rather than the innocents caught out...
Cheers,
Paul
1) Trundling through some lights following a very slow load - passed on green one side, took ages to cross junction to the point that I was in the middle while on red - nothing I can do and certainly not my fault.
2) Truck turning left or right at junction - pulls out blocking traffic to get turn around. Hence blocking people that have legally entered the camera zone - forcing them to stop and therefore be potentially flashed.
3) Incorrect light sequencing - seen this several times. Sequence goes completely awol and you are on green suddenly to be then red. And yes the Police were there as everyone was shit-scared to use the junction with the camera on it!!!!
The list goes on - you might be flashed, but like with the speed cameras, they are there to catch the people that blatantly do it rather than the innocents caught out...
Cheers,
Paul
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1) Trundling through some lights following a very slow load - passed on green one side, took ages to cross junction to the point that I was in the middle while on red - nothing I can do and certainly not my fault.
2) Truck turning left or right at junction - pulls out blocking traffic to get turn around. Hence blocking people that have legally entered the camera zone - forcing them to stop and therefore be potentially flashed.
In theory you're supposed to wait until the other side of the junction is clear before starting.
What about if you're turning right and waiting inside the junction, and someone coming the other way rushes the amber preventing you from moving before the lights go red?
Always wondered about that law on that one - if you follow the "wait until junction is clear" line then you'd never move until the rush hour's over.
Most of these operate by an induction loop. Look for a thin strip of tarmac in the road, under which lies an electric coil. This soil is only activated when the lights turn red. Not amber, flashing amber etc. If the coil senses pressure when activated, it completes an electric circuit and flash.
False alarms are always possible, but sounds to me like your idea of 0.5 seconds is just a wee bit out.
False alarms are always possible, but sounds to me like your idea of 0.5 seconds is just a wee bit out.
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What were you racing? I was there with Graham (Honest I didn't see the black flag y'honour ) Walden and his Tasmin.
Kumho BMW Championship. Bright yellow M5 with the loudest exhaust on the day. A mere 110db at 3000rpm!!
I'd knocked the rev limiter back to a 4 cylinder because a real 4500rpm would have been off the scale!
See this months Total BMW for a luvverly 6 page article on the beast...makes a dramatic change from the Talbot Sunbeam of last year
Andrew
>> Edited by apguy on Thursday 27th June 17:18
Excellent! Those bimmers were feckin fast. 
Were you also the guy with a "slightly scratched" passenger door?
I didn't see your race unfortunately because it was a bit frantic in the paddock getting Graham's car sorted and through scrutineering again. How did you do? Will you be at Croft on July 27/28?
Matt
Were you also the guy with a "slightly scratched" passenger door? I didn't see your race unfortunately because it was a bit frantic in the paddock getting Graham's car sorted and through scrutineering again. How did you do? Will you be at Croft on July 27/28?
Matt
Errr, the dodgy door - yup that was me.
Due to 'evil' handling I lost it in qualifying and my team-mate ploughed into the side of me: doh!
So after only 3 laps in a brand new car, qualifying was over for me. So I lined up 23rd out of 26 on the grid. A combination of aggression, a very wide car and a large amount of power (mmmmm....) meant a finishing position of 14th.
See you at Croft?
Due to 'evil' handling I lost it in qualifying and my team-mate ploughed into the side of me: doh!
So after only 3 laps in a brand new car, qualifying was over for me. So I lined up 23rd out of 26 on the grid. A combination of aggression, a very wide car and a large amount of power (mmmmm....) meant a finishing position of 14th.
See you at Croft?
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Most of these operate by an induction loop. Look for a thin strip of tarmac in the road, under which lies an electric coil. This soil is only activated when the lights turn red. Not amber, flashing amber etc. If the coil senses pressure when activated, it completes an electric circuit and flash.
False alarms are always possible, but sounds to me like your idea of 0.5 seconds is just a wee bit out.
Its not pressure, its the presence of a large mass of metal that induces a voltage (or is it current - I cant remember) in the coil and that triggers the camera. Its the same system that you see at traffic lights that are used to adjust the timing of the lights - you approach, if there is no traffic in the other lanes they will change to your favour. Had a episode with them coming out of a petrol station the other night - lights were on red, the exit misses the loop... you can guess how long I could've sat there.....
quote:Saw you driving in the paddock and thought to myself "Big hole in door so don't walk in front of that guy!"
Errr, the dodgy door - yup that was me.
Due to 'evil' handling I lost it in qualifying and my team-mate ploughed into the side of me: doh!
quote:Not a bad result from 23rd though. Well done.
So after only 3 laps in a brand new car, qualifying was over for me. So I lined up 23rd out of 26 on the grid...meant a finishing position of 14th.
quote:Lots of power indeed. In testing you guys were flying past those Westies like they were in reverse!
. A combination of aggression, a very wide car and a large amount of power (mmmmm....)
quote:Hopefully I'll be ther with Graham again. I'll pop over and say hi at some point. We'll be with the Red Tasmin convertible and the White Transit with Black Cat Racing on it. (Hiding somewhere near the Blue Moore Racing truck). See you there.
See you at Croft?
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