LGVs banned from Lane 2
Discussion
towman said:
I in the paper today that
Do you realise that that was almost exactly half the length of the Declaration of Independence. If I was interested in all that I could read it in the papers for myself.
I don't come her for news, information or reasoned debate on matters affecting motorists - I come here for a
This has been done to death.
Lorries to be banned from middle lane
Get a life towman - this isn't the Lack of Speed, Plodding Along & The Mother In Law in the Back Forum!
In future try to make your posts a little less Ilkonsidered.
8Pack said:
Start a programme of building crawler lanes on steep uphill sections of motorways. Cheaper than a 4th lane with much the same results.
Again, good in theory, but.......... as the two examples on the M25 show, in heavy traffic this simply increases congestion due to the games of "chicken" which occur at the pinch point.
Question for you..... At the end of the crawler lane section, which lane should end?
Steve
diesel ed said:
I don't come her for news, information or reasoned debate on matters affecting motorists - I come here for a
Then please move out of this forum and visit the Pie and Piston where the posts are much more to your liking.
You may not agree with Towman but he has taken the time to consider his argument and write it in a coherent and reasoned manner, please respect that or move on.
Ace-T
diesel ed said:
Do you realise that that was almost exactly half the length of the Declaration of Independence.
No I didn`t, how fascinating.
diesel ed said:
If I was interested in all that I could read it in the papers for myself.
You could have saved yourself 30p. Besides, I`m not sure if was published in "Practical Trolling"
diesel ed said:
I don't come her for news, information or reasoned debate on matters affecting motorists - I come here for a
That makes two of us.
diesel ed said:It has now that you are involved.
This has been done to death.
diesel ed said:
Lorries to be banned from middle lane
Didn`t see it until later. Spank my arse and call me wanton.
diesel ed said:
Get a life towman - this isn't the Lack of Speed, Plodding Along & The Mother In Law in the Back Forum!
In future try to make your posts a little less Ilkonsidered.
Glad too see you listened to my advice about putting humour into your posts. With a little more effort you might be competant at it.
Toerag
towman said:
8Pack said:
Start a programme of building crawler lanes on steep uphill sections of motorways. Cheaper than a 4th lane with much the same results.
Again, good in theory, but.......... as the two examples on the M25 show, in heavy traffic this simply increases congestion due to the games of "chicken" which occur at the pinch point.
Question for you..... At the end of the crawler lane section, which lane should end?
Steve
I'm going off European practice Steve, seems to work OK there but it needs a "zipper" approach to the end of the lane. Something I think we in Britain are very bad at, (some euro's are as well)
One thing I would say is that from what I've seen, the Europeans tend to end the lane too soon after the hill, time is needed to sort yourself out on the flat.
Which lane? well! funnily enough I've seen both, sometimes it's been the slow lane, sometimes it's the fast lane (left or right hand drive countries). I suppose ending the crawler lane is safest providing there is still a hard shoulder.
>> Edited by 8Pack on Sunday 5th December 03:03
ace-T said:
Then please move out of this forum and visit the Pie and Piston where the posts are much more to your liking.
Nooooo. Don`t inflict him on them. He is better off here - we understand his needs and humour him. Besides, the people on P&P might allow him access to sharp objects.
Check out some of his earlier threads/posts via the profile and you will understand.
Steve
DOh Steve! You picked up 'is droppings ag'in! 
Incidently Steve re post: I'm not suggesting that LGV's use the crawler lane only, just that it's a way of allowing lightly loaded trucks to overtake heavily loaded ones (in the crawler lane) safely. The pinch point would be in the truckers hands to merge into one.
>> Edited by 8Pack on Sunday 5th December 03:26
Incidently Steve re post: I'm not suggesting that LGV's use the crawler lane only, just that it's a way of allowing lightly loaded trucks to overtake heavily loaded ones (in the crawler lane) safely. The pinch point would be in the truckers hands to merge into one.
>> Edited by 8Pack on Sunday 5th December 03:26
ace-T said:Is that where I'll find threads such as this? -
I don't come her for news, information or reasoned debate on matters affecting motorists - I come here for a
Has anyone seen an Ilk?
ace-T said:
You may not agree with Towman but he has taken the time to consider his argument and write it in a coherent and reasoned manner, please respect that or move on.
Ace-T
Please, stop - you're cracking me up.
I can't take any more!
You mean not like these then? Six of One and Half Dozen of the Other..
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OK Ref, You'll Have To Explain The Aussie s6lnR!
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towman said:
If I was interested in all that I could read it in the papers for myself.
30p?
newspaper?! 
No wonder you insist on soundbites!
towman said:You're in the soup, me old China!
Spank my arse and call me wanton.
falcemob said:
tvradict said:
Speed limiters were fitted to trucks because 56mph was seen as the VMax for the tyres. Apparently, above this speed the tyres on trailers stand more chance of blowing out due to the heat created.
I think you will find it is good old EU legislation. 56mph because that equates to the French limit of 90kph for trucks and nothing to do with tyres.
>> Edited by falcemob on Saturday 4th December 17:24
Oh, so why do Renault Trucks have limiters at 53mph then?*
And Under EU Legislation the limiter should be set to 85kph not 90kph.
* I am aware that giving a renault a good bootfull every now and then will see 60mph, but they normally sit at 53, or at least thats what it says in the cab anyway.
Edited to add: It is of course EU legislation, but the tyre reason is the reason I was given, 85kph is/was seen as the speed above which tyres became unsafe due to the heat of sustained running vs the weight of the lorry. And of course the french always have to stick their ore in where it ain't wanted.
>> Edited by tvradict on Sunday 5th December 11:59
8Pack said:
DOh Steve! You picked up 'is droppings ag'in!
8Pack said:
No room in your world for humour. God! You wouldn't last 5 minutes where I work AND we still manage to do a serious responsible
job. Your world must be very grey, lighten up, and see the sun.
Wassup?
You haven't detected a whiff of hypocricy have you?
I wonder where that's coming from?!tvradict said:
Speed limiters were fitted to trucks because 56mph was seen as the VMax for the tyres. Apparently, above this speed the tyres on trailers stand more chance of blowing out due to the heat created.
I think you will find it is good old EU legislation. 56mph because that equates to the French limit of 90kph for trucks and nothing to do with tyres.
Oh, so why do Renault Trucks have limiters at 53mph then?*
And Under EU Legislation the limiter should be set to 85kph not 90kph.
* I am aware that giving a renault a good bootfull every now and then will see 60mph, but they normally sit at 53, or at least thats what it says in the cab anyway.
Edited to add: It is of course EU legislation, but the tyre reason is the reason I was given, 85kph is/was seen as the speed above which tyres became unsafe due to the heat of sustained running vs the weight of the lorry. And of course the french always have to stick their ore in where it ain't wanted.
To clear up the questions about limiters set at 85 kph.
This is absolutely nothing to do with tyres.
The reason is to meet the legislation requirement "that the vehicle will not exceed 90 kph"
OFF.Not Towman but yes, I'm fed up with Diesel Ed - as a newcomer (presumably) I don't think he quite understands yet that there are real people on the other end of his internet connection. He's far too aggressive and confrontational.
I suspect he's got a personality disorder.
>> Edited by regmolehusband on Monday 6th December 08:24
I suspect he's got a personality disorder.
>> Edited by regmolehusband on Monday 6th December 08:24
viggen114 said:
My immediates thoughts on reading this thread are
Nobody will be able to get on or off the said section of motorway because lane 1 will be either stopped or slow moving with NO GAPS
Now that should solve congestion on the said section during rush hours
my thoughts exactly. This'll be a bad idea that only comes to light too late.
regmolehusband said:
Not Towman but yes, I'm fed up with Diesel Ed - as a newomer (presumably) I don't think he quite understands yet that there are real people on the other end of his internet connection. He's far too aggressive and confrontational.
I suspect he's got a personality disorder.
>> Edited by regmolehusband on Sunday 5th December 22:41
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