Continuous Insurance Enforcement - Help!!
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LoonR1 said:
You can't get confirmation, because your situation makes no sense. The timescales are too short for a start.
You would get a warning letter giving you 30 days to SORN or insure. This would take at least two weeks to be sent ( as it takes this blog for thebMId to guarantee to be up to date) If you don't do as requested then you could get a fine. Your timelines are too short to be realistic.
I see.You would get a warning letter giving you 30 days to SORN or insure. This would take at least two weeks to be sent ( as it takes this blog for thebMId to guarantee to be up to date) If you don't do as requested then you could get a fine. Your timelines are too short to be realistic.
I may be wrong about the date the new car was received/insurance swapped over - may well have been earlier - don't know where GF has her docs. She may have had a warning letter. She tends to bin things rather than red them properly.
Excellent. I'm out.
Final bit of advice.
1. The letter is dated 25/03 and states that at that time it wasn't insured. You know it was uninsured from Feb
2. You've delayed dealing with this and are now in a spot of bother
3. Why did you remeber to SORN on 31/03 yet forget to deal with this at the same time?
4. The fact you've waited this long suggests you're not good with admin and probably chose ton ignore the warning letter which would've been sent in Feb. the date of 25th Marchbis to highlight that but remained uninsured or not SORNed after the window they have you to deal with it.
5. Well done. My bluff is sort of called, but I will leave SP&L as promised. Let the party begin.
Final bit of advice.
1. The letter is dated 25/03 and states that at that time it wasn't insured. You know it was uninsured from Feb
2. You've delayed dealing with this and are now in a spot of bother
3. Why did you remeber to SORN on 31/03 yet forget to deal with this at the same time?
4. The fact you've waited this long suggests you're not good with admin and probably chose ton ignore the warning letter which would've been sent in Feb. the date of 25th Marchbis to highlight that but remained uninsured or not SORNed after the window they have you to deal with it.
5. Well done. My bluff is sort of called, but I will leave SP&L as promised. Let the party begin.
LoonR1 said:
Excellent. I'm out.
Final bit of advice.
1. The letter is dated 25/03 and states that at that time it wasn't insured. You know it was uninsured from Feb
2. You've delayed dealing with this and are now in a spot of bother
3. Why did you remeber to SORN on 31/03 yet forget to deal with this at the same time?
4. The fact you've waited this long suggests you're not good with admin and probably chose ton ignore the warning letter which would've been sent in Feb. the date of 25th Marchbis to highlight that but remained uninsured or not SORNed after the window they have you to deal with it.
5. Well done. My bluff is sort of called, but I will leave SP&L as promised. Let the party begin.
Before you go...Final bit of advice.
1. The letter is dated 25/03 and states that at that time it wasn't insured. You know it was uninsured from Feb
2. You've delayed dealing with this and are now in a spot of bother
3. Why did you remeber to SORN on 31/03 yet forget to deal with this at the same time?
4. The fact you've waited this long suggests you're not good with admin and probably chose ton ignore the warning letter which would've been sent in Feb. the date of 25th Marchbis to highlight that but remained uninsured or not SORNed after the window they have you to deal with it.
5. Well done. My bluff is sort of called, but I will leave SP&L as promised. Let the party begin.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. see the tax disc everyday as I walk past the car - not aware of CIE until I was shown the fine letter.
4. Yes. Not my car so only see what I am shown - I have not be shown a warning letter, but suspect may have had one tat was not read and binned.
5. Not my intention.
6. Conclusion. I better pay the fine before it goes up to £100. Sounds like a job I can put off for another 9 days
LoonR1 said:
Sheepshanks said:
Until CIE came along that would be an entirely normal course of events.
You're right most people would waste money paying road tax for a car they couldn't use on the road as a matter of course. Obviously I'm guessing, but I seriously doubt many people would bother for the sake of a month's road tax - especially if they haven't encountered the new system and think they can sell the old car still taxed.
LoonR1 said:
CIE is not new, yet we suddenly seem to have a thread a day about it. Wonder why that is?
I think there's a whole bunch of people who create these threads just to give you something to do in your breaks.Regarding paying tax on a vehicle I was not using: The job of disposing of the old car was given to me and I had been waiting for the documentation from the GF and could not be arsed to chase her for it (I hate selling cars and I'm good at putting off stuff I am supposed to do but dislike doing).
I regularly waste money on stuff to be honest.
Been out of work for the last 6 weeks and can't bring myself to go and claim my £75 a week benefits. So now £450 I have thrown away.
Bought a £150 kitchen knife over a year ago - never used it.
Got loads of expensive tools that I have never used and 5 pairs of trainers and 4 jackets that I have never worn either. I can also see 3 DVDs and 5 PS3 games that I have had for over a year and they are still in their cellophane wrappers.
I regularly waste money on stuff to be honest.
Been out of work for the last 6 weeks and can't bring myself to go and claim my £75 a week benefits. So now £450 I have thrown away.
Bought a £150 kitchen knife over a year ago - never used it.
Got loads of expensive tools that I have never used and 5 pairs of trainers and 4 jackets that I have never worn either. I can also see 3 DVDs and 5 PS3 games that I have had for over a year and they are still in their cellophane wrappers.
MTech535 said:
When I start work - will my NI be adjusted so I pay for the time I was out of work?
No - but you can pay them voluntarily.I forget how it all works now - major issue is effect on pension for people who don't pay for years, but it can also impact eligibility for benefits, say if worked for a while and then became unemployed again.
MTech535 said:
Bought a £150 kitchen knife over a year ago - never used it.
Got loads of expensive tools that I have never used and 5 pairs of trainers and 4 jackets that I have never worn either. I can also see 3 DVDs and 5 PS3 games that I have had for over a year and they are still in their cellophane wrappers.
Car boot sale?Got loads of expensive tools that I have never used and 5 pairs of trainers and 4 jackets that I have never worn either. I can also see 3 DVDs and 5 PS3 games that I have had for over a year and they are still in their cellophane wrappers.
I'd pay the £50 now, and go and buy an A4 expanding document wallet, so you can get your st together.
I have them for the house, the cars/bikes, as well as personal finance,tax and employment stuff.
The thing with being a bit lazy is that its actually far less effort to get stuff done when you are organised.
I even have a chalk board in the garage with service/ tax/ins due dates written on it.
Ian
You don't have to pay the "fine"
1. You Sorned the vehicle in February when you took the car off the road.
You couldn't do it on line as your computer wasn't working, so you did it the old fashioned way, by posting it.
2. You checked the following month, and noticed that it wasn't registered as Sorn, so you re did it again at the end of March.
3. In the meantime, you've received your fine. You won't be paying this as you have already declared Sorn twice now, so tell them you'd like the matter to go to court.
1. You Sorned the vehicle in February when you took the car off the road.
You couldn't do it on line as your computer wasn't working, so you did it the old fashioned way, by posting it.
2. You checked the following month, and noticed that it wasn't registered as Sorn, so you re did it again at the end of March.
3. In the meantime, you've received your fine. You won't be paying this as you have already declared Sorn twice now, so tell them you'd like the matter to go to court.
Roo said:
Yeah, that'll work.
It probably would - although trying it after commenting in public that he hadn't sent is not worth the risk. DVLA have got into trouble for not accepting that putting stuff in the post to them is all that owners are required to do.The timing in the OPs case would work in his favour as he'd have SORN'd in Feb and then been alerted to the non-receipt by the tax reminder coming in March.
Edited by Sheepshanks on Sunday 19th April 00:07
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