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Thanks for the input all
The pickup time for the children is 15.15.
The other parents with wheelchair user children are all fed up with it too and we have done exactly what you suggest; hatched a plan where we get there earlier and get the spaces. It took 3 consecutive days going earlier each time to beat him there - he and his stone faced wife (recently elected to the council) arrive at 1440!
I'm not sure about the other parents but I work and (own small business) and it's hard to leaving really early.
The pickup time for the children is 15.15.
The other parents with wheelchair user children are all fed up with it too and we have done exactly what you suggest; hatched a plan where we get there earlier and get the spaces. It took 3 consecutive days going earlier each time to beat him there - he and his stone faced wife (recently elected to the council) arrive at 1440!
I'm not sure about the other parents but I work and (own small business) and it's hard to leaving really early.
Firstly...
Just walk away a few steps, take a photograph of his car in situ and leave it with him.
If he's a local councillor, he's highly likely to be a member of a political party. Find out who the lead member is for his party at your council via the council's website (if his party has control it'll be the Council leader, if not it may be the opposition leader) and write them a letter or email explaining the problem in detail and including your photograph.
Make it clear that if the matter isn't dealt with appropriately you will pass your letter of complaint on to the local press.
Bad local publicity is like kryptonite to local politicians.
But have a word first - your entire complaint is currently based on heresay.
Jonsv8 said:
Having a quiet word isn't going to help either as the parking person and the letter from the head hasn't made a difference.
There is no way you can know this until you have a word. People like this are often far less likely to resist requests from people who are directly affected by their actions. If he tells you to do one, there is no need to lose your temper or fall out with him.Just walk away a few steps, take a photograph of his car in situ and leave it with him.
If he's a local councillor, he's highly likely to be a member of a political party. Find out who the lead member is for his party at your council via the council's website (if his party has control it'll be the Council leader, if not it may be the opposition leader) and write them a letter or email explaining the problem in detail and including your photograph.
Make it clear that if the matter isn't dealt with appropriately you will pass your letter of complaint on to the local press.
Bad local publicity is like kryptonite to local politicians.
But have a word first - your entire complaint is currently based on heresay.
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"Disabled councillor hounded from legally parking in disabled spot"
Get a grip
R_U_LOCAL said:
There is no way you can know this until you have a word. People like this are often far less likely to resist requests from people who are directly affected by their actions. If he tells you to do one, there is no need to lose your temper or fall out with him.
Just walk away a few steps, take a photograph of his car in situ and leave it with him.
If he's a local councillor, he's highly likely to be a member of a political party. Find out who the lead member is for his party at your council via the council's website (if his party has control it'll be the Council leader, if not it may be the opposition leader) and write them a letter or email explaining the problem in detail and including your photograph.
Make it clear that if the matter isn't dealt with appropriately you will pass your letter of complaint on to the local press.
Bad local publicity is like kryptonite to local politicians.
But have a word first - your entire complaint is currently based on heresay.
I can see the headline now...Just walk away a few steps, take a photograph of his car in situ and leave it with him.
If he's a local councillor, he's highly likely to be a member of a political party. Find out who the lead member is for his party at your council via the council's website (if his party has control it'll be the Council leader, if not it may be the opposition leader) and write them a letter or email explaining the problem in detail and including your photograph.
Make it clear that if the matter isn't dealt with appropriately you will pass your letter of complaint on to the local press.
Bad local publicity is like kryptonite to local politicians.
But have a word first - your entire complaint is currently based on heresay.
"Disabled councillor hounded from legally parking in disabled spot"
Get a grip
Jonsv8 said:
I can see the headline now...
"Disabled councillor hounded from legally parking in disabled spot"
Get a grip
My sincere apologies. I was under the impression that the OP was looking for advice."Disabled councillor hounded from legally parking in disabled spot"
Get a grip
I forgot this was PH.
Do you know where he lives OP? Get yourself to the meat aisle at Iceland...
R_U_LOCAL said:
Jonsv8 said:
I can see the headline now...
"Disabled councillor hounded from legally parking in disabled spot"
Get a grip
My sincere apologies. I was under the impression that the OP was looking for advice."Disabled councillor hounded from legally parking in disabled spot"
Get a grip
I forgot this was PH.
Do you know where he lives OP? Get yourself to the meat aisle at Iceland...
R_U_LOCAL said:
Jonsv8 said:
I can see the headline now...
"Disabled councillor hounded from legally parking in disabled spot"
Get a grip
My sincere apologies. I was under the impression that the OP was looking for advice."Disabled councillor hounded from legally parking in disabled spot"
Get a grip
I forgot this was PH.
Do you know where he lives OP? Get yourself to the meat aisle at Iceland...
OP, if your current emotional state has put you in the position of not wanting a face to face confrontation there is another way.
There is nothing to stop you and the other parents writing reasoned unemotional letters explaining why he should desist. Obtaining his address should not be that difficult.
There is nothing to stop you and the other parents writing reasoned unemotional letters explaining why he should desist. Obtaining his address should not be that difficult.
tapereel said:
Get the head to change the spaces to "wheel chairs only"
Personally I think this is the first action to try, clearly the Head understands the issue and perhaps hasn't thought of this suggestion.No harm in discussing it with him.
Perhaps change the positions from parking spaces to drop off zones to prevent them from turning up early and just sitting in the spot.
thescamper said:
OP, if your current emotional state has put you in the position of not wanting a face to face confrontation there is another way.
There is nothing to stop you and the other parents writing reasoned unemotional letters explaining why he should desist. Obtaining his address should not be that difficult.
This sounds like a good idea, but if it doesn't count as face to face confrontation would you be able to all hand your letters to him on the same day? This would/should be harder to ignore whereas at home they could all just go straight in the bin. It would be a pretty poor person who when handed 10-15 letters about the situation didn't have a look at themselves and their behaviour, especially if they are worded to explain your situation and how it could be made easier as opposed to please stop parking there.There is nothing to stop you and the other parents writing reasoned unemotional letters explaining why he should desist. Obtaining his address should not be that difficult.
If he is someone who would respond to this with "I don't know what's got into this lot" then it probably won't work , but at least you have tried and can maybe get the school to step in.
I hope whatever you choose goes well and good luck with getting it resolved.
Get the head to be with the parking attendant / caretaker at the start and end of the day.
Assuming it's private land, then they both need to speak with the individual and clearly tell him that the spaces are for the pupils that need them and not someone who happens to have a blue card and just sits and waits.
They need to be armed with the information (as already listed earlier in the topic) that clearly shows his blue card is not valid on private land.
The head and leadership team need to step up and own this and not leave it to parents or carers, the latter will never get a satisfactory outcome as there is no authority.
This guy is clearly used to getting his own way and standing behind a badge of one sort or another to bully people in to what he wants.
"Retired" this and "ex" that clearly shows he is a real "Richard Cranium"....
Assuming it's private land, then they both need to speak with the individual and clearly tell him that the spaces are for the pupils that need them and not someone who happens to have a blue card and just sits and waits.
They need to be armed with the information (as already listed earlier in the topic) that clearly shows his blue card is not valid on private land.
The head and leadership team need to step up and own this and not leave it to parents or carers, the latter will never get a satisfactory outcome as there is no authority.
This guy is clearly used to getting his own way and standing behind a badge of one sort or another to bully people in to what he wants.
"Retired" this and "ex" that clearly shows he is a real "Richard Cranium"....
Seesure said:
This guy is clearly used to getting his own way and standing behind a badge of one sort or another to bully people in to what he wants.
He may well be used to that. He may also think the letter from the head was in support of him if it said "Parents and guardians are respectfully reminded that the disabled spaces are for those with disability badges" or something similar, as he has a disabled badge. He's not exactly bullying anyone though is he? The head needs to man up and deal with it in person.
Imagine the reverse. Disabled person comes on here and complains that the locals are all ganging up on him and want him to park somewhere inconvenient even though he has a blue badge and parks lawfully. At face value we'd be behind that person in a flash.
He's at worst being inconsiderate given the circumstance and the lack of proper parking facilities. Nothing more.
Jonsv8 said:
He's at worst being inconsiderate given the circumstance and the lack of proper parking facilities. Nothing more.
I would say selfish and inconsiderate.There are too few spaces by the sounds of it but why someone who, by the sounds of it, doesn't even need to get out of their car, choses to use one to the detriment and inconvenience of all others, many of whom are in far greater need is something which requires a special sort of selfish sense of entitlement.
Quite often in life we are entitled to things but have to question if we really need them and if it is appropriate. At Le Mans I was handed 3 Porsche flags (FOC) I don't need 3 at all, I only really wanted one it was nice to have a second for the Mrs. The third was therefore handed to a grateful child who was devoid of a flag. It's about common decency and being socially aware. Something you would have thought that a retired police officer who has political intents and his elected wife might like to think on.
I would have no more difficulty in expressing these views directly and to the wider local voters. Sure the media might try the 'persecuted local disabled man' approach but it is highly unlikely when they have the juicer nugget of local councillor puts their needs before that of children at disabled school...
Sorry for my belated reply; just getting chance to catch up.
Ive spoken with the head this morning and discussed getting the usage of the spaces defined in the school policy. This way they can police and enforce it easier.
To be fair, the bloke was not taking one up this morning but I was unsure if that was because they were taken before he arrived.
Ill keep this thread updated
Ive spoken with the head this morning and discussed getting the usage of the spaces defined in the school policy. This way they can police and enforce it easier.
To be fair, the bloke was not taking one up this morning but I was unsure if that was because they were taken before he arrived.
Ill keep this thread updated
Same old same old give so folk and blue badge and they turn to selfish muppets.
Still think there should be two levels of blue badge wheelchair and non wheelchair would solve this issue.
My daughters school operates a no car policy on the drive accept disabled children but thats doesn't stop some old fart rocking up everyday and parking in disabled as his wife the badges holder never leaves the soding car.
I also have a neighbour next to our house we rent, same sort of deal ex cid used to be someone now is able bodied but not a well chap has motab car and badge. He has created merry hell in our small close since 2007, so much so he stopped the recycling lorries accessing 7 properties Residents have to take there rubbish to the entrance.
small two car widths road: houses have drives and gardens and drives at the front no rear gardens. He has extended his garden to his two car drive into more garden and insists on parking at the foot of his drive. Everyone else parked over to the other side of the road. In 5 years had a number of occasions were he blocked the road by parking opposite to all other cars parked and we had stalemates getting in and out. He just says he is disable and has a blue badge which is means 5 feet of road make all the difference. My old neighbours moved as they had enough of him despite being friends with him for 2-3 years.
I have been unfortunate enough to live next door to another elderly BB holder and he spent his days worrying about people parking outside or near his house on a small residential new build estate. He would park bikes leave his bikes in the road to stop people parking outside his house. In the end he crashed his car into one that parked outside his house and blamed them for parking as he was disable. In the case his drive was next to his front door and closer than the road!! There should be some sort of mental screening before you give them out!
Still think there should be two levels of blue badge wheelchair and non wheelchair would solve this issue.
My daughters school operates a no car policy on the drive accept disabled children but thats doesn't stop some old fart rocking up everyday and parking in disabled as his wife the badges holder never leaves the soding car.
I also have a neighbour next to our house we rent, same sort of deal ex cid used to be someone now is able bodied but not a well chap has motab car and badge. He has created merry hell in our small close since 2007, so much so he stopped the recycling lorries accessing 7 properties Residents have to take there rubbish to the entrance.
small two car widths road: houses have drives and gardens and drives at the front no rear gardens. He has extended his garden to his two car drive into more garden and insists on parking at the foot of his drive. Everyone else parked over to the other side of the road. In 5 years had a number of occasions were he blocked the road by parking opposite to all other cars parked and we had stalemates getting in and out. He just says he is disable and has a blue badge which is means 5 feet of road make all the difference. My old neighbours moved as they had enough of him despite being friends with him for 2-3 years.
I have been unfortunate enough to live next door to another elderly BB holder and he spent his days worrying about people parking outside or near his house on a small residential new build estate. He would park bikes leave his bikes in the road to stop people parking outside his house. In the end he crashed his car into one that parked outside his house and blamed them for parking as he was disable. In the case his drive was next to his front door and closer than the road!! There should be some sort of mental screening before you give them out!
It's about time that councils clamped down on Blue-Badge abusers!
So many of them think that it's a licence to park anywhere they like.
From.gov
We often have people parking half way across the entrance to the next door pub's car park entrance and blocking my drive. There are double yellow lines and a dropped kerb. Coming out of the drive is perilous as you often can't see traffic coming from the right until half your car is in the road!
I have to go in to find the driver sometimes and they always say "I'm allowed to park there, Blue-Badge!"
Ignorant
s! My father had a Blue Badge for most of his life and he would never park in such a way as to inconvenience anybody else!
So many of them think that it's a licence to park anywhere they like.
From.gov
We often have people parking half way across the entrance to the next door pub's car park entrance and blocking my drive. There are double yellow lines and a dropped kerb. Coming out of the drive is perilous as you often can't see traffic coming from the right until half your car is in the road!
I have to go in to find the driver sometimes and they always say "I'm allowed to park there, Blue-Badge!"
Ignorant
s! My father had a Blue Badge for most of his life and he would never park in such a way as to inconvenience anybody else!Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff