129mph on a 70mph DC

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Calletrece

320 posts

132 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Spangles said:
We don't know which stretch of road it was. I'm guessing it was the other way towards Clacton.
True. I presumed it was the bit most akin to one of the circles of hell near Colchester.

And firmly tounge in cheek, I should add, just in case.

Grey Ghost

4,583 posts

222 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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crashley said:
I'd bet on a 56day ban and a fine related to salary for that.
I'll take your 56 day gambit and go with 3-6 months............plus the salary based fine. Essex Magistrates not known for any friendly reaction to such speeds over the years I've been driving and hearing about their decisions.

Ekona

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1,656 posts

204 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Spangles said:
Calletrece said:
I call BS on this story. No-one has managed to get up to that speed on that stretch of road!
We don't know which stretch of road it was. I'm guessing it was the other way towards Clacton.
Bingo.

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Spangles

1,441 posts

187 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Calletrece said:
Spangles said:
We don't know which stretch of road it was. I'm guessing it was the other way towards Clacton.
True. I presumed it was the bit most akin to one of the circles of hell near Colchester.

And firmly tounge in cheek, I should add, just in case.
I'm not going to disagree about that particular hole.

Osinjak

5,453 posts

123 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Calletrece said:
True. I presumed it was the bit most akin to one of the circles of hell near Colchester.

And firmly tounge in cheek, I should add, just in case.
What is a tounge?

WD39

20,083 posts

118 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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longblackcoat said:
making the mitigation work
What possible mitigation can you offer when speeding at 129mph and caught bang to rights?

WD39

20,083 posts

118 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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It's amazing how many speeders quote the weather or the time of day when caught.

'The Road was clear', 'It was three in the morning' etc.

No excuses please.

Antony Moxey

8,184 posts

221 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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WD39 said:
longblackcoat said:
making the mitigation work
What possible mitigation can you offer when speeding at 129mph and caught bang to rights?
I'd imagine you could come up with quite a few, although not sure many of them would hold much sway with the court.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

181 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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crashley said:
I feel for you, i really do. Exactly the same happened to me going past Stansted a few years back doing 126mph with the missus asleep in the passenger seat. The bike copper at the time wasn't impressed, albeit he was friendly, all things considered. I spoke to a solicitor and waited patiently (for 6mnths) for the ticket to appear but it never did.

I'd bet on a 56day ban and a fine related to salary for that.

Edited to add, the only time i've been to Chelmsford court for speeding i got 6points and a fine for doing 101mph on the A12.

Edited by crashley on Thursday 10th December 14:45
Laws are for the poor to obey and the guidance of the rich, what, what!

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

181 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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WD39 said:
on a clear sunny evening in the summer
It's amazing how many speeders quote the weather or the time of day when caught.

'The Road was clear', 'It was three in the morning' etc.

No excuses please.
Police do I think it clear and sunny you can add 40mph to the limit easy everyone knows that.

I never here I was doing 120 in a 50, poring with rain and I couldn't see 20 metres in front

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

181 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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WD39 said:
What possible mitigation can you offer when speeding at 129mph and caught bang to rights?
Need to come up with something was abused as a child, relative in their death bed. If I lose my licence Syrian refuges will take a hit on my sizeable donations. I found a solicitor very unsympathetic when I was 18 and up for 100 plus but I am sure they will be happy to take your money.

Or tell the truth petrol head and has a car that can dap on so thought great times to open the taps and see what this baby I'll do.

I find keeping it below 95 so much easier and if you do get caunt, you often aren't thrown to the mercy of jps who are all ex primary school teachers, police officers and members of brake. Your better off mugging old ladies or shop lifting as they get conditional discharges like MMs.


Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 10th December 19:06

drdel

433 posts

130 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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T'is plainly daft to drive at over the 100mph on a public road. Even on a DC its unlikely the car's tyres etc have been checked so any failure will easily send the car onto the other carriageway (unlike competition cars that go through scrutineering before racing)

Get yourself a race-car and enjoy your fix on the track you'll soon mature as a driver and discover you won't need to prove anything.

Oilchange

8,525 posts

262 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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If you read up on the sentencing stuff these ARE mitigating factors.
It's stuff like clear dry road, good visibility and no traffic / not over drink driving limit, not raining and/or in heavy traffic ...that help the Magistrates get a feel for the circumstances. these are called 'mitigating factors' as far as I can remember

Of course, if it IS raining in heavy traffic and the speeder overtook a long line of traffic then screamed past a load of school kids out walking... stand by!

WD39 said:
on a clear sunny evening in the summer
It's amazing how many speeders quote the weather or the time of day when caught.

'The Road was clear', 'It was three in the morning' etc.

No excuses please.

R8VXF

6,788 posts

117 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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drdel said:
T'is plainly daft to drive at over the 100mph on a public road. Even on a DC its unlikely the car's tyres etc have been checked so any failure will easily send the car onto the other carriageway (unlike competition cars that go through scrutineering before racing)

Get yourself a race-car and enjoy your fix on the track you'll soon mature as a driver and discover you won't need to prove anything.
Don't forget to renew your brake membership, it is up for renewal soon

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

185 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Oilchange said:
If you read up on the sentencing stuff these ARE mitigating factors.
It's stuff like clear dry road, good visibility and no traffic / not over drink driving limit, not raining and/or in heavy traffic ...that help the Magistrates get a feel for the circumstances. these are called 'mitigating factors' as far as I can remember

Of course, if it IS raining in heavy traffic and the speeder overtook a long line of traffic then screamed past a load of school kids out walking... stand by!

WD39 said:
on a clear sunny evening in the summer
It's amazing how many speeders quote the weather or the time of day when caught.

'The Road was clear', 'It was three in the morning' etc.

No excuses please.
Not about excuses; it's about giving the magistrates what they want. If they listen to arguments about "clear road", "dry day" them that's what you use.

Oilchange

8,525 posts

262 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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I just wrote the top bit...

agtlaw

6,762 posts

208 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Rookie error to focus on offence mitigation. Offender mitigation is much more important.

OP, if you have fewer than 6 live points then you're looking at a 1-3 month ban.

If you have 6 or more live points then you're most likely to get another 6 points - leading to a penalty points disqualification of at least 6 months.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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anonymous said:
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That's if it goes to court.

The FPN threshold is up to 96, I say 100 as I mean it as an indication so keeping it below 100 will more than likely keep it at 96 or below on the measuring device.


rgw2012

598 posts

145 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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agtlaw said:
Rookie error to focus on offence mitigation. Offender mitigation is much more important.

OP, if you have fewer than 6 live points then you're looking at a 1-3 month ban.

If you have 6 or more live points then you're most likely to get another 6 points - leading to a penalty points disqualification of at least 6 months.
When you say Offender mitigation do you mean it's important to focus on having a clean licence, that they're remorseful and learnt their lesson etc, rather than the state of the roads the offence was committed on?

agtlaw

6,762 posts

208 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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rgw2012 said:
When you say offender mitigation do you mean it's important to focus on having a clean licence, that they're remorseful and learnt their lesson etc, rather than the state of the roads the offence was committed on?
Yes.