Incitement to religious hatred....and other racist behaviour

Incitement to religious hatred....and other racist behaviour

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Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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If anybody has a look in the News, Politics and Economics section of this site, then you'll see a plethora of overtly racist posts and a very clear anti-Muslim slant, a lot of which goes unchecked by the mods.

Whilst there might not have been a rise in racism, what there has been is an increase in how blatant it is and how it seems to be accepted more and more. Even Biker Banter has a thread where being asked to take your helmet off when filling up with petrol has turned into a debate on the burka. There have also been comments like "special people being allowed to live different lifestyles in our communities".

I am a white middle class, good earning near 50 year old with far more right wing than left wing views and have always voted Tory. I find the current trend of overt racism quite distasteful.

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

132 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Gavia said:
I am a white middle class, good earning near 50 year old with far more right wing than left wing views and have always voted Tory. I find the current trend of overt racism quite distasteful.
I just find it ignorant. Usually bilge spurted by "Britain First" types that have a lion or cross or St George as a cover photo on Facebook.



Fozziebear

1,840 posts

142 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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WaferThinHam said:
I just find it ignorant. Usually bilge spurted by "Britain First" types that have a lion or cross or St George as a cover photo on Facebook.
That's the problem, I have a George cross flag but I won't fly it outside my house as I'd be classed as a bigot, it's the ignorant groups that have distorted national pride.

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

132 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Fozziebear said:
That's the problem, I have a George cross flag but I won't fly it outside my house as I'd be classed as a bigot, it's the ignorant groups that have distorted national pride.
I quite agree. I'd say a Union flag would be perceived as less racist. That's just one man's opinion though. Pity most county flags are crap really.

voyds9

8,489 posts

285 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Gavia said:
I find the current trend of overt racism quite distasteful.
I quite agree lets keep it hidden.

Loyly

18,034 posts

161 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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elanfan said:
In the bin please mods
laugh

OP is just another troll.

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

142 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Loyly said:
elanfan said:
In the bin please mods
laugh

OP is just another troll.
Troll or not these conversations are good to have, I can respect others opinions even if I don't agree. So as long as the adults here can keep the thread together and not just drop into an xx bashing session we should continue

Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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voyds9 said:
Gavia said:
I find the current trend of overt racism quite distasteful.
I quite agree lets keep it hidden.
Sadly racism will always exist to some extent and if it has to remain hidden, if not extinguished, then that's fine by me. The sooner I can go on a forum or facebook and not see some ignoramus spouting vile racist bks the better.

If you want to mock me, because you enjoy being a pedant, then good for you.

pcvdriver

Original Poster:

1,819 posts

201 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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singlecoil said:
If there was some way you could get on the Internet, you would easily be able to check the spelling of any words you are not sure of.
I've seen it spelt with two different spellings, however one was in the Grauniad, so thought I'd better query it? - I guess they stopped paying for sub-editors some time ago ;-)


pcvdriver

Original Poster:

1,819 posts

201 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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hidetheelephants said:
It isn't on the rise, it's just more visible because of Facebook etc. The sadsacks who get off on this stuff are just that, sadsacks. Many supporters of the old firm hail from across the water, the ferries and planes from Ireland and NI are busy on match days so I fail to see what difference an Irish passport makes.

As for the rest of the post it's not clear to me what point, if any, you are trying to make.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Sunday 5th February 07:25
The Irish passport means that I will be able to continue to work in Europe when the fancy takes me (I do tour work with bands occasionally), or due to necessity, like in the past. Just remember that approx 2 to 2.5 million Brits work and live abroad in Europe.......and in the next two years, a lot of them are going to have to jump through bureaucratic hoops in order to continue with their lifestyle abroad, which pre-Brexit was completely unnecessary.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

232 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Gavia said:
voyds9 said:
Gavia said:
I find the current trend of overt racism quite distasteful.
I quite agree lets keep it hidden.
Sadly racism will always exist to some extent and if it has to remain hidden, if not extinguished, then that's fine by me. The sooner I can go on a forum or facebook and not see some ignoramus spouting vile racist bks the better.

If you want to mock me, because you enjoy being a pedant, then good for you.
"I see the KKK"

Where Gavia, where?

"Everywhere"

LOL

singlecoil

34,059 posts

248 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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pcvdriver said:
The Irish passport means that I will be able to continue to work in Europe when the fancy takes me (I do tour work with bands occasionally), or due to necessity, like in the past. Just remember that approx 2 to 2.5 million Brits work and live abroad in Europe.......and in the next two years, a lot of them are going to have to jump through bureaucratic hoops in order to continue with their lifestyle abroad, which pre-Brexit was completely unnecessary.
I shouldn't think so. There is such a thing as negative reciprocity.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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pcvdriver said:
The Irish passport means that I will be able to continue to work in Europe when the fancy takes me (I do tour work with bands occasionally), or due to necessity, like in the past. Just remember that approx 2 to 2.5 million Brits work and live abroad in Europe.......and in the next two years, a lot of them are going to have to jump through bureaucratic hoops in order to continue with their lifestyle abroad, which pre-Brexit was completely unnecessary.
Says who?

pcvdriver

Original Poster:

1,819 posts

201 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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rscott said:
Trying to stop this becoming another debate on the rights & wrongs of Brexit and going back to the OP...

I don't think there are more racists now than 3 years ago, but they have become more brazen in their behaviour.
Some feel that the result gives them the right to tell non UK citizens (or just those who "don't look British") that it's time for them to go home.
I didn't say that there were more racists - just that there are more and more racist (and in the case of white foreigners, xenophobic) attacks. They are certainly becoming more brazen, as if they have a special licence to air their filthy views....which is frankly disgusting.

Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Smiler. said:
"I see the KKK"

Where Gavia, where?

"Everywhere"

LOL
Wouldn't I need to be in the US for that to be relevant?

Love the way you think you've read my mind btw, bit sad to say the least.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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bmw535i said:
Says who?
I thought the PM was clear that the free movement of people was a "red line"?

pcvdriver

Original Poster:

1,819 posts

201 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Gavia said:
If anybody has a look in the News, Politics and Economics section of this site, then you'll see a plethora of overtly racist posts and a very clear anti-Muslim slant, a lot of which goes unchecked by the mods.

Whilst there might not have been a rise in racism, what there has been is an increase in how blatant it is and how it seems to be accepted more and more. Even Biker Banter has a thread where being asked to take your helmet off when filling up with petrol has turned into a debate on the burka. There have also been comments like "special people being allowed to live different lifestyles in our communities".

I am a white middle class, good earning near 50 year old with far more right wing than left wing views and have always voted Tory. I find the current trend of overt racism quite distasteful.
I think we're politically diametrically opposed to each other - but I'm glad you and I have the same distaste for racism that so many on here seem to fail to share.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

232 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Gavia said:
Smiler. said:
"I see the KKK"

Where Gavia, where?

"Everywhere"

LOL
Wouldn't I need to be in the US for that to be relevant?

Love the way you think you've read my mind btw, bit sad to say the least.
Riiiight.

Who's the one labelling everyone with an opinion that differes to your own as racist?

Keep digging smile

pcvdriver

Original Poster:

1,819 posts

201 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Fozziebear said:
Loyly said:
elanfan said:
In the bin please mods
laugh

OP is just another troll.
Troll or not these conversations are good to have, I can respect others opinions even if I don't agree. So as long as the adults here can keep the thread together and not just drop into an xx bashing session we should continue
It's my guess that Loyly and Elanfan don't see racism as a problem, so would rather just shout troll, when they see something they don't agree with......which is classic trolling behaviour - which is quite ironic, don't you think?

pcvdriver

Original Poster:

1,819 posts

201 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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bmw535i said:
pcvdriver said:
The Irish passport means that I will be able to continue to work in Europe when the fancy takes me (I do tour work with bands occasionally), or due to necessity, like in the past. Just remember that approx 2 to 2.5 million Brits work and live abroad in Europe.......and in the next two years, a lot of them are going to have to jump through bureaucratic hoops in order to continue with their lifestyle abroad, which pre-Brexit was completely unnecessary.
Says who?
So in your opinion, we'll (those of us who have the inclination, or the need to) just pop over to Europe to work whenever we feel like?.....and we'll have no need of getting visas or work permits? If you think that's the case, then you may be in for a shock. Whatever you think of our own immigration levels, many British citizens rely on the unfettered access to the work market within the EU at the moment. Once we leave - how can you blithely say, it won't be a problem?