The Law (of grammar) :)
Discussion
Holst said:
Making propper sentences and stuff is more important, nothing worse than a half page post with no full stops or capitals as you cant understand it.
A lack of punctuation did not appear to stop the Romans from communicating effectively.
This piece of Roman poetry illustrates that without modern sentence structure text can still make sense if we are intelligent enought to think it though.
Ceasar entered on his head
his helmet on his feet
his sandals in his hand
a sword in his eye
a wicked look
>> Edited by D Stanley on Thursday 2nd February 21:12
gilbertd said:
Brakes and breaks is the one that really gets to me. I've even seen it used incorrectly in newpapers. I thought journalists would at least be able to get something like that right.
Maybe they're all really ancient. In the 19th century "breaks" was used more often than not.
gilbertd said:
Mind you, I get told off by my daughter for wasting characters because I use proper spelling, punctuation and capitalisation in text messages too.
I do that too (apart from the capitalisation; because of the appalling ergonomics of my phone I just use capitals all the time).
U fink its bad now? its gonna get worser and worser 
"Du ur olds knw whr U r o wot ur doin coz D bil wl tel em"
www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=375395&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
"Du ur olds knw whr U r o wot ur doin coz D bil wl tel em"
www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=375395&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Ach .. jawohl... Englisch...
It ist an impossible language with an impossible structure.
You must a decenter language structure have. If this so is, send the verb to end of sentence. Also invert we somtimes subject und verb and have the most logical order for use of pronouns.
Und if you wwant serious BOF! logic ... learn French!
It ist an impossible language with an impossible structure.
You must a decenter language structure have. If this so is, send the verb to end of sentence. Also invert we somtimes subject und verb and have the most logical order for use of pronouns.
Und if you wwant serious BOF! logic ... learn French!
WildCat said:
Ach .. jawohl... Englisch...
It ist an impossible language with an impossible structure.
You must a decenter language structure have. If this so is, send the verb to end of sentence. Also invert we somtimes subject und verb and have the most logical order for use of pronouns.
Und if you wwant serious BOF! logic ... learn French!
Someone sent me this a while ago, I hope you see it as just a little gentle humour
The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
In the first year, 's' will be used instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard 'c' will be replaced with 'k.' Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters kan have one less letter.
There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome 'ph' will be replaced by 'f'. This will make words like 'fotograf' 20 per sent shorter.
In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent 'e's in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.
By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing 'th' by 'z' and 'W' by 'V'. During ze fifz year, ze unesesary 'o' kan be dropd from vords kontaining 'ou', and similar changes vud of kors; be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.
After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil b no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru.
Pet hates:
1. "its" vs "it's" (and even "its'", "hi's" and "her's" sometimes!) for the possessive
2. the so-called "grocer's apostrophe", such as "golden deliciou's", while real possessives don't get one ("last weeks newspaper", anyone?)
I love language. It's fun, and it's satisfying to get right. I don't always manage it, but I do try. It's like driving -- you can treat it as a necessity and get no pleasure from it, or try to do it right and enjoy it.
1. "its" vs "it's" (and even "its'", "hi's" and "her's" sometimes!) for the possessive
2. the so-called "grocer's apostrophe", such as "golden deliciou's", while real possessives don't get one ("last weeks newspaper", anyone?)
I love language. It's fun, and it's satisfying to get right. I don't always manage it, but I do try. It's like driving -- you can treat it as a necessity and get no pleasure from it, or try to do it right and enjoy it.
Peter Ward said:
It's like driving -- you can treat it as a necessity and get no pleasure from it, or try to do it right and enjoy it.
Well said, that man.
Disagree with the notion that it doesn't matter. If we wander away from the rules, we'll be unable to understand each other.
It might be wikkid, innit, but I don't understand a bloody word they're saying.
I can live with spelling mistakes and typo's, but when people use the wrong word (sort-of typos, but careless, e.g. breaks, loose, wreckless...) it annoys me - how can people not know the difference? I mean, was anyone taught about verbs, adjectives and nouns at school???
A typo isn't that difficult to read, but the wrong word, esp. if it's a different class of word, manages to become a road-block to your train-of-thought as you read the sentence.
A typo isn't that difficult to read, but the wrong word, esp. if it's a different class of word, manages to become a road-block to your train-of-thought as you read the sentence.
Dampener/dampened instead or damper/damped when describing suspension. The former words relate to something getting wet.
But much more importantly, when people say "jealous" instead of "envious". I am on a one-man crusade to stop this and am getting nowhere.
Jealousy refers to an intrusion on an exclusive relationship e.g between husband and wife.
Envy is when a person experiences something that highlights a personal shortcoming e.g. when a person sees someone else with a car or house they would like. It is not necessarily the particular car or house they want, they would just like to be in a position where they could have a car or house similar to the one they have seen.
But much more importantly, when people say "jealous" instead of "envious". I am on a one-man crusade to stop this and am getting nowhere.
Jealousy refers to an intrusion on an exclusive relationship e.g between husband and wife.
Envy is when a person experiences something that highlights a personal shortcoming e.g. when a person sees someone else with a car or house they would like. It is not necessarily the particular car or house they want, they would just like to be in a position where they could have a car or house similar to the one they have seen.
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