AXE ATTACK on Speed Camera Operator and van!
Discussion
skymaster said:
PeteG said:
Greendubber said:
skymaster said:
If I saw a speed camera on fire would I call the fire brigade? No. I would let that damn thing burn.
Thats a shocking attitude to have. Sure no one likes camera vans but you're telling me you'd let someone burn to death for having to work in one?.Lets hope there arent too many people around with your attitude. How would you feel if someone said they'd be prepared to let you burn due to your chosen job?.
Really very sad.
Edited by skymaster on Friday 20th June 12:18
skymaster said:
PeteG said:
Greendubber said:
skymaster said:
If I saw a speed camera on fire would I call the fire brigade? No. I would let that damn thing burn.
Thats a shocking attitude to have. Sure no one likes camera vans but you're telling me you'd let someone burn to death for having to work in one?.Lets hope there arent too many people around with your attitude. How would you feel if someone said they'd be prepared to let you burn due to your chosen job?.
Really very sad.
Thermite, the only way to be sure!
HTHAs for the guy in Aus, it all sounds a bit like Michael Douglas in Falling Down to me.
IMHO with the amount of Buttf
king the motorist is getting through Tax and Stealth Taxes I am supprised that there has not been more attacks on the "system".I can't (on the basis what we know about this case) condone attacking the guy inside the van but could, perhaps see how events and attiudes could lead to such an event.
TonyHetherington said:
You call yourself the motorist's friend but all I ever seem to read of you, or about you, is nothing constructive what-so-ever.
You seem almost joyful at the attack on a (to quote you) "SCUM"era operator.
That is far from the motorist's friend. If anything, you are the genuine motorist's enemy as you are doing no good for the genuine argument against speeding policies with such statements.
The late Paul Smith was a good example of somebody who had the right, legal, ethically correct approach.
We'd lose nothing at all if "captain gatso"'s account were to become so many disparate bits, drifting aimlessly on the ethereal winds of the intertubes.You seem almost joyful at the attack on a (to quote you) "SCUM"era operator.
That is far from the motorist's friend. If anything, you are the genuine motorist's enemy as you are doing no good for the genuine argument against speeding policies with such statements.
The late Paul Smith was a good example of somebody who had the right, legal, ethically correct approach.
catso said:
skymaster said:
Yes, I was talking about fixed cameras.... you actually thought I would stand by and watch someone burn to death.... ha ha I do hate these people yes, but I have morals ...
So is that the point at which you would piss on them?......... 
CommanderJameson said:
TonyHetherington said:
You call yourself the motorist's friend but all I ever seem to read of you, or about you, is nothing constructive what-so-ever.
You seem almost joyful at the attack on a (to quote you) "SCUM"era operator.
That is far from the motorist's friend. If anything, you are the genuine motorist's enemy as you are doing no good for the genuine argument against speeding policies with such statements.
The late Paul Smith was a good example of somebody who had the right, legal, ethically correct approach.
We'd lose nothing at all if "captain gatso"'s account were to become so many disparate bits, drifting aimlessly on the ethereal winds of the intertubes.You seem almost joyful at the attack on a (to quote you) "SCUM"era operator.
That is far from the motorist's friend. If anything, you are the genuine motorist's enemy as you are doing no good for the genuine argument against speeding policies with such statements.
The late Paul Smith was a good example of somebody who had the right, legal, ethically correct approach.
skymaster said:
CommanderJameson said:
TonyHetherington said:
You call yourself the motorist's friend but all I ever seem to read of you, or about you, is nothing constructive what-so-ever.
You seem almost joyful at the attack on a (to quote you) "SCUM"era operator.
That is far from the motorist's friend. If anything, you are the genuine motorist's enemy as you are doing no good for the genuine argument against speeding policies with such statements.
The late Paul Smith was a good example of somebody who had the right, legal, ethically correct approach.
We'd lose nothing at all if "captain gatso"'s account were to become so many disparate bits, drifting aimlessly on the ethereal winds of the intertubes.You seem almost joyful at the attack on a (to quote you) "SCUM"era operator.
That is far from the motorist's friend. If anything, you are the genuine motorist's enemy as you are doing no good for the genuine argument against speeding policies with such statements.
The late Paul Smith was a good example of somebody who had the right, legal, ethically correct approach.
TonyHetherington said:
Absolutely; and even with his paper-based-legal-approach he was shot down and ignored, pushed to the back etc. But, surely, the answer is not violence?
Of course the answer is not violence.However, Captain Gatso is not advocating violence, he is WARNING of it occuring if the public at large continue to be teated the way they are by the government!
I myself have warned of this - the public are aggrieved on so many issues - taxes, interest rates, fuel prices andspeed cameras. At the same time they see government ministers and MPs with their noses in the expenses trough!
There will come a point when even reasonable men and women will say STOP! Enough is enough, and it will be just like the poll tax riots all over again!
Any "face" of government, real or perceived will become a target... some with good reason, and some undeserving.
At 27 years old, you are not going to remember the previous riots we have experienced, or the conditions under which they came about.
Captain Gatso is popular in the media because he is doing what many wish they could do themselves. It's unusual for the government not to realise what the people want and go some way towards meeting their expectations (not).
You should let the posters who respond here judge the posts of others, since PistonHeads is a forum, not a news media.
If the Captains (or any others) posts dont fulfill what others expect, then they will respond (or blank) accordingly, and you might have your eyes opened to something which you were not aware.
Stifling debate by exerting your own views over others just puts you in the same league as the government, and could lose you the respect of posters who want to respond, and not find stories deleted or edited to sanitise the site.
MillWheel said:
TonyHetherington said:
Absolutely; and even with his paper-based-legal-approach he was shot down and ignored, pushed to the back etc. But, surely, the answer is not violence?
Of course the answer is not violence.However, Captain Gatso is not advocating violence, he is WARNING of it occuring if the public at large continue to be teated the way they are by the government!
Mr Trophy said:
MillWheel said:
TonyHetherington said:
Absolutely; and even with his paper-based-legal-approach he was shot down and ignored, pushed to the back etc. But, surely, the answer is not violence?
Of course the answer is not violence.However, Captain Gatso is not advocating violence, he is WARNING of it occuring if the public at large continue to be teated the way they are by the government!
MillWheel said:
[There will come a point when even reasonable men and women will say STOP! Enough is enough, and it will be just like the poll tax riots all over again!
Any "face" of government, real or perceived will become a target... some with good reason, and some undeserving.
At 27 years old, you are not going to remember the previous riots we have experienced, or the conditions under which they came about.
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IIRC the type of people who were rioting in thepolltax riots would fall into one of the following categories today.Any "face" of government, real or perceived will become a target... some with good reason, and some undeserving.
At 27 years old, you are not going to remember the previous riots we have experienced, or the conditions under which they came about.
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1: EcoMentallist, liberal, do-gooder, who now supports green tax and anti speed propaganda.
2: Good fornothing Chav from a sink estate milking the system.
The target of todays oppression is the normal, reasonable guy who it will take a lot to get him to brake the law and protest.
All this is supported by those who are quick to take action as they are either in full support or are not paying taxes anyway.
Mr Trophy said:
Im currently at work at the moment. However, that aside. If you go onto Youtube and type "burnt speed camera" There is a chap on a motorbike who burns the fix camera. Interesting to watch. Alot of folk drive past and not one person stops.
Probably cos he's doing good work.10 Pence Short said:
I'm totally against automated speed enforcement outside of urban limits,
10 Pence Short said:
but I don't see the justification in someone attacking a chap with an axe.
Depends what he's done to deserve it?10 Pence Short said:
Fight the system, not the individuals.
Nazi prison guards. Upholding the system of persecution. Fair targets?Make the bed then lie in it. Expect to be hated, no?
Deltaf01 said:
10 Pence Short said:
I'm totally against automated speed enforcement outside of urban limits,
10 Pence Short said:
but I don't see the justification in someone attacking a chap with an axe.
Depends what he's done to deserve it?10 Pence Short said:
Fight the system, not the individuals.
Nazi prison guards. Upholding the system of persecution. Fair targets?Make the bed then lie in it. Expect to be hated, no?
As for your Nazi comments- it's the usual poppycock sprouted by people who have no better argument than to revert to the ridiculous.
TonyHetherington said:
10 Pence Short said:
I'm not sure who adopted who, but I don't think Captain Gatso's attitude reflects that well on PH.
I would like to clarify that there is absolutely ZERO link between Captain Gatso and PistonHeads or Haymarket, be it formally or informally.http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=542512&hw=+%2BCaptain+%2BGatso
Edited by 10 Pence Short on Friday 20th June 13:36
MillWheel said:
You should let the posters who respond here judge the posts of others, since PistonHeads is a forum, not a news media.
If the Captains (or any others) posts dont fulfill what others expect, then they will respond (or blank) accordingly, and you might have your eyes opened to something which you were not aware.
Stifling debate by exerting your own views over others just puts you in the same league as the government, and could lose you the respect of posters who want to respond, and not find stories deleted or edited to sanitise the site.
Hi MillWheel,If the Captains (or any others) posts dont fulfill what others expect, then they will respond (or blank) accordingly, and you might have your eyes opened to something which you were not aware.
Stifling debate by exerting your own views over others just puts you in the same league as the government, and could lose you the respect of posters who want to respond, and not find stories deleted or edited to sanitise the site.
I agree with your sentiment entirely, and as part of the moderation team it's a difficult balance between hosting comments and them being discussed versus not having them appear on our site - we battle with it everyday. The instances to which I referred to above were in respect of comments that we believed were not for the good of the site to have, whether they are disagreed with or not. It, of course, is not a decision we ever take lightly and is no less important to a speeding thread than a totally non motoring related discussion.
I hope that explains a little why such decisions may get made.
Tony
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