Ian Huntley sues for £100,000 compensation.
Discussion
Sadly whilst in jail the state is required to offer him better protection than it affords the general public at large.
I suspect he might well win on that basis.
The question is, is he going to be better off dead, or can we try and keep him in jail, alive, and in constant fear that someone is going to "get him".........
I suspect he might well win on that basis.
The question is, is he going to be better off dead, or can we try and keep him in jail, alive, and in constant fear that someone is going to "get him".........
Forget who he is and what he's done. It's not about him. It's about the Prison Service having a duty of care to ensure inmates are not injured or killed whilst in their care.
What Ian Huntley did was about as abhorrent as it can get, but under our justice system that quite rightly doesn't remove all his rights to protection under the law. I can only look on my time inside and, knowing how vulnerable you really are to attack, think how I would be feeling if the Prison Officers had failed to act properly if there was an obvious threat against me.
I have no sympathy for Ian Huntley whatsoever, I hope the guy dies in prison (however soon that may be), but that does not override my agreement with the principle that we should all be protected by the same laws and have the same recourse when something goes wrong. That is as much his right as it would be mine or yours.
What Ian Huntley did was about as abhorrent as it can get, but under our justice system that quite rightly doesn't remove all his rights to protection under the law. I can only look on my time inside and, knowing how vulnerable you really are to attack, think how I would be feeling if the Prison Officers had failed to act properly if there was an obvious threat against me.
I have no sympathy for Ian Huntley whatsoever, I hope the guy dies in prison (however soon that may be), but that does not override my agreement with the principle that we should all be protected by the same laws and have the same recourse when something goes wrong. That is as much his right as it would be mine or yours.
Edited by 10 Pence Short on Saturday 31st July 08:51
10 Pence Short said:
Forget who he is and what he's done. It's not about him. It's about the Prison Service having a duty of care to ensure inmates are not injured or killed whilst in their care.
What Ian Huntley did was about as abhorrent as it can get, but under our justice system that quite rightly doesn't remove all his rights to protection under the law. I can only look on my time inside and, knowing how vulnerable you really are to attack, think how I would be feeling if the Prison Officers had failed to act properly if there was an obvious threat against me.
I have no sympathy for Ian Huntley whatsoever, I hope the guy dies in prison (however soon that may be), but that does not override my agreement with the principle that we should all be protected by the same laws and have the same recourse when something goes wrong. That is as much his right as it would be mine or yours.
All this is self evidently true. I still think that Huntley himself will derive little or no real benefit. What Ian Huntley did was about as abhorrent as it can get, but under our justice system that quite rightly doesn't remove all his rights to protection under the law. I can only look on my time inside and, knowing how vulnerable you really are to attack, think how I would be feeling if the Prison Officers had failed to act properly if there was an obvious threat against me.
I have no sympathy for Ian Huntley whatsoever, I hope the guy dies in prison (however soon that may be), but that does not override my agreement with the principle that we should all be protected by the same laws and have the same recourse when something goes wrong. That is as much his right as it would be mine or yours.
Edited by 10 Pence Short on Saturday 31st July 08:51
7db said:
Then you are a barbarian and already removed from this society.
No I'm a realist and I don't want the money I pay in taxes going towards keeping monsters like that in relative comfort for the rest of his pathetic lifetime.We don't re-home mad dogs and try to reform them at tax payers expense...why is that?
People like Huntley are less than human and no amount of 'help' is going to make him of value to the society he transgressed against, except in the minds of tree hugging hippies who spout 'peace and love' and who think he can be changed.
If that makes me a barbarian so be it.
7db said:
You're first against the wall; you're one of the animals.
Now make up your mind I'm either a barbarian or I'm an animal...I can't be both.I'd like you to know...for the record...I've never killed anyone (although I would gladly change that in Huntley's case)I have however ended the life of several animals...some were for food and a couple were killed to protect others.
Now, did Huntley kill for food or was he somehow protecting us by killing those two little girls?
otolith said:
Shaid GTB said:
I wonder if the parents of the families he destroyed get any compo?
If he is awarded this money, and thus has some assets worth chasing, I wonder if there is any possibility of a civil case against him for the damage caused to the parents of his victims?Shaid GTB said:
otolith said:
Shaid GTB said:
I wonder if the parents of the families he destroyed get any compo?
If he is awarded this money, and thus has some assets worth chasing, I wonder if there is any possibility of a civil case against him for the damage caused to the parents of his victims?Money will never replace them but it may help show that society cares more for the victims rather than the ones who commit the crimes.
I take those who feel contempt towards his legal team for representing him have a similar level of contempt for the medical team that saved his life. It's called professionalism. You leave your personal views at the door and do the job to the highest standard. Hopefully this case will die young..... Like Huntley!
MilnerR said:
I take those who feel contempt towards his legal team for representing him have a similar level of contempt for the medical team that saved his life. It's called professionalism. You leave your personal views at the door and do the job to the highest standard. Hopefully this case will die young..... Like Huntley!
For the record...I don't feel contempt towards them I feel contempt towards a system that affords such animals as Huntley the same rights as a normal person. 
<I take those who feel contempt towards his legal team for representing him have a similar level of contempt for the medical team that saved his life. It's called professionalism.>
Not really - there is a slice of the legal profession (usually living in Hampstead or Islington) that seeks out this type of work because it makes them feel heroic. And makes them rich. So the Huntleys, terrorists, violent sex offenders, murderers, etc, etc, et al, get lawyers by the dozen and the terrorised old and vulnerable on sink estates do not.
Not really - there is a slice of the legal profession (usually living in Hampstead or Islington) that seeks out this type of work because it makes them feel heroic. And makes them rich. So the Huntleys, terrorists, violent sex offenders, murderers, etc, etc, et al, get lawyers by the dozen and the terrorised old and vulnerable on sink estates do not.
If prisoners' rights are (to be) the same as those outside prison (and I disagree that they should continue to enjoy many of those rights), then we should be able to sue the police for failing to exercise their 'duty of care' to us a citizens when we are attacked or robbed. It's a goose and gander sauce thing - Streaky
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