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Vipers

32,931 posts

229 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Bring in the A team, take theese morons out. Period.

I know its a civil matter, but I am just gobsmacked the police cannot interviene on these situations.

As usual, joe public out on a limb.




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hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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I'm sorry but I call BS on this entire story.

streaky

19,311 posts

250 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Dizeee said:
streaky said:
You and your father must report the assault and criminal damage to the police now.

In the case as described, a charge of blackmail (s21 Theft Act 1968) might also be open, in that they made an unwarranted demand with menaces. To avoid conviction, they would need to show that they believed that (1) they had reasonable grounds for making the demand and (2) that the use of the menaces was a proper means of reinforcing the demand. I would suggest that, whilst the first test might be satisfied in principle (but I also suggest that the amount charged could be factored in), the second test would be hard for a jury to swallow.

Streaky
In theory maybe, but we both know any report of anything stemming from a clampers will not be looked at.
I suggest that when one of those alleging an assault is a solicitor (even one not practising criminal law in that area), the police will pay a little more attention. If they do not, then the local newspaper office should be the next port of call ... and the officer who refuses to deal with the complaint should be made aware of that at the end of the interview - Streaky

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

202 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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hornetrider said:
I'm sorry but I call BS on this entire story.
I've been coming back to this thread for an hour or so thinking the same thing.

stitched

3,813 posts

174 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Sorry but couldn't help a chuckle.
Do hope you wipe the floor with the clampers.

Bill

52,980 posts

256 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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hondafanatic said:
hornetrider said:
I'm sorry but I call BS on this entire story.
I've been coming back to this thread for an hour or so thinking the same thing.
yesWe need custard.

over_the_hill

3,190 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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So you are delivering for Domino's in the evenings while you do your apprenticeship. Presumably for extra cash.

If you are that hard up why are you running an Alfa 147 that you seem to be throwing money at.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

Do your insurance company know you are using your car for business purposes.

Why do you already have a solicitor. Most people I know wouldn't know where to start when it came to contacting a solicitor.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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over_the_hill said:
Why do you already have a solicitor. Most people I know wouldn't know where to start when it came to contacting a solicitor.
I do agree with that! The amount of people that say "Right, I'm calling my solicitor" and i start to think, what kind of person has a solicitor on standby to sort out arguments, unless they keep getting into stupid problems?

Granted, some people will work with them all the time, but in a lot of cases, it should be "right! I'm going to get the yellow pages and call AAA Solicitors4U.com!"

stitched

3,813 posts

174 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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TheEnd said:
over_the_hill said:
Why do you already have a solicitor. Most people I know wouldn't know where to start when it came to contacting a solicitor.
I do agree with that! The amount of people that say "Right, I'm calling my solicitor" and i start to think, what kind of person has a solicitor on standby to sort out arguments, unless they keep getting into stupid problems?

Granted, some people will work with them all the time, but in a lot of cases, it should be "right! I'm going to get the yellow pages and call AAA Solicitors4U.com!"
However some of us had a 'family solicitor'
The chap I used to call had done work for my granfather and father and always answered any query I had, more of a friend than a brief but incredibly handy.
No longer here alas.

Flintstone

8,644 posts

248 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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over_the_hill said:
Why do you already have a solicitor.
Observation's not your strong point, is it?

over_the_hill

3,190 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Flintstone said:
over_the_hill said:
Why do you already have a solicitor.
Observation's not your strong point, is it?
Why - just because his father is one.

streaky

19,311 posts

250 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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over_the_hill said:
Flintstone said:
over_the_hill said:
Why do you already have a solicitor.
Observation's not your strong point, is it?
Why - just because his father is one.
Solicitors tend to know other solicitors. I have a solicitor. He's a good friend and has the "family solicitor" for 26 years. My children have both used his firm (for civil matters). Previously I had a "family solicitor" who had originally been engaged by my father. I used him for conveyancing and other civil matters. Among my friends and ex-colleagues it's not uncommon, but maybe it's a "class" thing wink - Streaky

TTwiggy

11,553 posts

205 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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streaky said:
over_the_hill said:
Flintstone said:
over_the_hill said:
Why do you already have a solicitor.
Observation's not your strong point, is it?
Why - just because his father is one.
Solicitors tend to know other solicitors. I have a solicitor. He's a good friend and has the "family solicitor" for 26 years. My children have both used his firm (for civil matters). Previously I had a "family solicitor" who had originally been engaged by my father. I used him for conveyancing and other civil matters. Among my friends and ex-colleagues it's not uncommon, but maybe it's a "class" thing wink - Streaky
Since the onset of the credit crunch, I have been forced to use my butler's solicitor.

Dizeee

18,380 posts

207 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Despite what may be apparent in terms of offences, they are all connected to an incident of clamping, which in itself is an unregulated practice that the practicers are currently allowed to get away with. They are able to use an element of force in the process of their "business" and so trying to make criminal matters out of a civil practice just doesn't happen...

As the OP will no doubt allude to over the course of the thread, it will never be a police matter.

masermartin

1,629 posts

178 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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ITT: people inferring you can get away with murder (literally) if the dispute started over a clamping incident.

Pcot

863 posts

183 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Park legally, its not difficult is it.
If you choose to park on private land, when you know damn well you shouldn't be, you face the consequences i'm afraid (even if its only for as long as it takes for a pizza to cook)
No sympathy from me.....move along now!!

Vipers

32,931 posts

229 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Pcot said:
Park legally, its not difficult is it.
If you choose to park on private land, when you know damn well you shouldn't be, you face the consequences i'm afraid (even if its only for as long as it takes for a pizza to cook)
No sympathy from me.....move along now!!
Trouble is it isn't always that easy work out if you should park or not, as many say, signs are not visible. Having said, some of the so called "consequences" are basically enforced by bully boys, who intimidate motorists, and demanding extorniate amount of monies to let you go.

I think the word is Blackmail.

Even if you park next to a sign saying Private Parking, the realease fee should be reasonable, without being bullied into coughing loads of dosh.


I agree parking is not difficult, but where the clampers don't ply their trade, we see people parking where they feel like it, so for many, parking is difficult without or without clampers being around rolleyes

Having said that, I have never parked where I shouldn't have in all my 45 odd years of driving, havn't got any points either.


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shouldbworking

4,769 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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24 ccjs for that company. I'm impressed smile

TTwiggy

11,553 posts

205 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Pcot said:
Park legally, its not difficult is it.
If you choose to park on private land, when you know damn well you shouldn't be, you face the consequences i'm afraid (even if its only for as long as it takes for a pizza to cook)
No sympathy from me.....move along now!!
All true, but the issue has always been about the punishment far outweighing the crime – it's not hard to avoid speeding, but would you support a system where speed cameras could shoot your tyres out?

Dracoro

8,696 posts

246 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Vipers said:
Having said that, I have never parked where I shouldn't have in all my 45 odd years of driving, havn't got any points either.
I had a dentist appointment once, usually in and out in half an hour but put in enough money to meter for 90 minutes just to be safe.

Was in the dentist chair for far longer than could be reasonably expected and got a £30 parking ticket. Annoying but can't do much about it. Now what if the car was taken and a £3000 fine applied, somewhat ridiculous no?

In the OPs case, the fine is ridiculous, as it taking the car away. There is NO excuse. The "punishment" does NOT fit the *crime*.

However, I will ask again, was the car parked on the road or on private land?