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In my experience this tagging lark is only as good as the determination of the person it is fitted to. I have caught people on tags who have been in breach of their bail conditions and who have removed the tag and left it at their bail address.
How they do it is beyond me but so is the theft of many expensive high powered cars with all sorts of immobiliser and alarm kit on. If its technical, someone, even those from the lower genes pools will find a way around it.
How they do it is beyond me but so is the theft of many expensive high powered cars with all sorts of immobiliser and alarm kit on. If its technical, someone, even those from the lower genes pools will find a way around it.
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In my experience this tagging lark is only as good as the determination of the person it is fitted to. I have caught people on tags who have been in breach of their bail conditions and who have removed the tag and left it at their bail address.
How they do it is beyond me but so is the theft of many expensive high powered cars with all sorts of immobiliser and alarm kit on. If its technical, someone, even those from the lower genes pools will find a way around it.
Its prity easy really :-) If you know how.
I good understanding of electronics helps
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In my experience this tagging lark is only as good as the determination of the person it is fitted to. I have caught people on tags who have been in breach of their bail conditions and who have removed the tag and left it at their bail address.
How they do it is beyond me but so is the theft of many expensive high powered cars with all sorts of immobiliser and alarm kit on. If its technical, someone, even those from the lower genes pools will find a way around it.
Just break the little shit's legs - lets see them run around nicking stuff with both legs in plaster
>> Edited by Fatboy on Monday 10th June 14:55
the only way that we as an inteligent society could reduce the number of these types of incident is by education and changing human nature. Crimes are committed by all members of society, yes that is you and I, we are all guilty of the temptation of a real bargain for example when a mate you know from the pub says he has some NIKE trainers for sale at £10. how many of us consider the poor shop owner who got burgled.
I agree that having your car stolen is like a personal insult and as a victim of car crime i understand the feelings of anger and revenge that arise in us, however i also know that statistics show that prison does not prevent people from re offending in fact it makes them more proficient criminals. The fact that the majority of these types of offences are committed by people from underprivileged backgrounds and apparently for little monetary gain shows that had they had the opportunity they too would also enjoy driving around in a nice TVR or PORSCHE and participating in track days. This is unfortunately beyond their comprehension and so they resort to stealing your nice cars and getting their kicks on the public highway.
Maybe the answer is communism! the only problem with that is that people in positions of power through money or their job, abuse this power and are no better than the underpriviliged car thieves. I too stole sweets as a child does this meen i should have had my legs broken or was it better that i was educated.
I agree that having your car stolen is like a personal insult and as a victim of car crime i understand the feelings of anger and revenge that arise in us, however i also know that statistics show that prison does not prevent people from re offending in fact it makes them more proficient criminals. The fact that the majority of these types of offences are committed by people from underprivileged backgrounds and apparently for little monetary gain shows that had they had the opportunity they too would also enjoy driving around in a nice TVR or PORSCHE and participating in track days. This is unfortunately beyond their comprehension and so they resort to stealing your nice cars and getting their kicks on the public highway.
Maybe the answer is communism! the only problem with that is that people in positions of power through money or their job, abuse this power and are no better than the underpriviliged car thieves. I too stole sweets as a child does this meen i should have had my legs broken or was it better that i was educated.
But I didn't steal sweets or anything else for that matter because I was too scared of what my dad would do if he found out.
I think there is merit in a 5000 pound reward for anyone willing to have a vasectomy. That way the people that 5000 pounds really makes a difference to don't wind up trying to care for, or in most cases not trying to care for numerous expensive kids.
How much is child support these days? 10 pounds a week? thats 10x52x18=9360 per child. Saves taxers even if it stops one child per couple, and thats aside from any welfare payments that also might be included.
That should mean that the problem is completely addressed in a couple of generations. Almost as good as the Golgafrincham B Ark.
BTW Outlaw, lease use a spellchecker, I know you're dyslexic, so am I. Your arguments stand a much high chance of being listened to if people can read them easily.
I think there is merit in a 5000 pound reward for anyone willing to have a vasectomy. That way the people that 5000 pounds really makes a difference to don't wind up trying to care for, or in most cases not trying to care for numerous expensive kids.
How much is child support these days? 10 pounds a week? thats 10x52x18=9360 per child. Saves taxers even if it stops one child per couple, and thats aside from any welfare payments that also might be included.
That should mean that the problem is completely addressed in a couple of generations. Almost as good as the Golgafrincham B Ark.
BTW Outlaw, lease use a spellchecker, I know you're dyslexic, so am I. Your arguments stand a much high chance of being listened to if people can read them easily.
Really interesting thread and some very good points raised. Good stuff from the policeman on these forums I thought.
As some of you will know I am (very slowly) attempting to put a basic manifesto together with the aim of starting my own political party. This is going to take a while due to the nature of my work but I'll get there eventually. In the meantime, here are my thoughts on crime:
Yes, there are some bad policeman out there, but I genuinely believe that most of them are decent people who have their hands tied behind their back, not by the judiciary as such but by the government. I know I would get very disillusioned if I was repeatedly arresting the same person because they kept getting let out by the courts all the time.....
The courts are also operating with their hands tied behind their backs to an extent. A friend of mine is a magistrate and I asked her recently why stiffer sentences weren't handed out. She basically said that most magistrates she knew only wished the could, but they were always operating within government guidelines and 'recommendations'.
Any government that can say, "oh dear, our prisons are full, so lets only imprison someone if they've done something worse that that which would get the imprisoned currently" is simply stupid and sending out a terrible moral message. The answer to prison overcrowding can be deduced via simple logic:
Prisons are overcrowded.
We need more space but it is expensive.
Look at the cost per prisoner - can it, and more importantly, should it, be reduced?
Yes.
Cut the cost per prisoner by 50%+ (very easy if you lock them up in dingy rooms, packed in like sardines and take away their TVs, pool tables, gyms, etc.).
Now double the number of prisons.
Now have lots of space, can hand out longer sentences to people like paedophiles(20yrs+), murderers (30yrs+), rapists (20yrs+), muggers (10yrs+), etc.
This should act as a deterrent, hence reducing crime (also see point below about making them work).
Of course the above is grossly simplified and prevention is always better than cure so lots of other things need to be done that I don't have time for here.
One crucial point to my beliefs is that those who commit a crime should REALLY repay their debt to society. Not by doing 20hrs of community service for mugging an old lady but getting banged up for 10yrs, being taught building/construction skills, and repairing our road network, public transport infrastructure, dry stone walls, etc. at low cost. We even have them doing the mining, etc. They shouldn't put too many people out of jobs as they will be doing extra work, not replacing those doing the level of work that goes on now.
It's important to note that I think they should be paid for their work! (Whilst still reducing the overall cost). My idea is that they get paid £x/week, x% of which goes into a fund for when they get out (unless they have done something really nasty) and the remainder of which is used to buy their privileges. I am aware that a limited form of this is already used but to my knowledge there is nothing like this on a national scale and with the payout at the end.
The purpose of the payout is to give them something to start from. Then if they go back in to a life of crime they get banged up for twice as long as they have no excuse - they have some money, skills and experience of working. We get something out of them - improvements to our standard of living and our country.
Our also believe that corporal punishment in schools should be reintroduced but under a much stricter framework as I have heard too many stories of unfair and severe punishments being meated out. My proposal is to have a committee made up of the school headteacher, another teacher (excluding the person who is proposing the punishment - although they are allowed to submit written evidence they should not be there as their colleagues could feel pressured) and a policeman and/or a social worker. These would be held maybe once a week and the punishment could be dealt out by the head or perhaps the policeman? If it were done by the policeman we might even see children starting to respect them and that should carry through to adulthood. Of course, I'm not proposing that each case takes three hours to sort out, just a few minutes as there are likely to be quite a few, but the idea is that the teacher has to justify the punishment and has time to regain his/her cool and make a reasonable decision.
Though there is a considerable investment of time and resources here I think the potential payback in the long term is worth considering....
Chaning the topic altogether - the RIPA bill. Hmmmm... what a load of sh!te. Here's the logic:
Police demand your encryption key and/or password as they have a feeling you've been up to something.
You're either
(a) an innocent member of the public who doesn't want their privacy being violated and you refuse. You are given up to 2yrs in prison under the RIPA laws.
(b) an innocent member of the public who doesn't want their privacy being violated but is too scared so gives the key/password over, though they have done nothing wrong and anything private you have on your machine (e-mails, personal diary, pictures of the wife n@ked, etc.) is viewed
(c) a terrorist/murder/paedophile/serious criminal who has incriminating evidence encyrpted on your comupter. You know that if you give your key/password you'll get decades in prison. So, obviously you refuse to hand over your key/password so you get at most 2yrs in prison instead of 10, 20 or more.
If anyone can tell me how that is intended to catch terrorists and serious criminals I'll eat my TVR with soy sauce and a bottle of red. What the bill does do is give the government and all their cronies carte blanche to spy on ordinary Joe Public. There is even talk now of GPS systems being inserted in mobile phone batteries so that you can be tracked (remember, you are tracked by default and the records kept for years even when you are not using your phone but it is just switched on) regardless of whether the phone is on or not. Combine this with e-mail interception, the most observed (via CCTV) population IN THE WORLD and, lo and behold, Big Brother came several years ago and most of us didn't even notice, or even care... (I won't even go in to DNA samples being taken from people - criminals should be made to give their fingerprints as they can only provide ID, DNA however can tell you an enormous amount about a person, e.g. their intelligence, likelihood of getting certain diseases, genetic/family background, etc.)
Right, it's 10:40pm and I'm still at work and can't be @rsed to write anything else now. I'd be interested to hear peoples comments (constructive please!) and suggestions for improving and/or adding to my ideas, or identification of weakeness.
If anyone wants to e-mail through pistonheads then please feel free.
Regards.
roadsweeper.
PS: Outlaw, I've liked some of your posts in the past but it sounds like your trying to say that "some car thieves are alright." Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm right then you've gone down considerably in my opinion. It's one thing to criticse the police for @nally enforcing stupid speed laws, quite another to criticse them for trying to keep us safe from thieving scum who don't care whether they ruin people's lives or not. Let me put it this way, any car thief caught after doing 90mph in a 30mph zone would get 5yrs if it were up to me.
As some of you will know I am (very slowly) attempting to put a basic manifesto together with the aim of starting my own political party. This is going to take a while due to the nature of my work but I'll get there eventually. In the meantime, here are my thoughts on crime:
Yes, there are some bad policeman out there, but I genuinely believe that most of them are decent people who have their hands tied behind their back, not by the judiciary as such but by the government. I know I would get very disillusioned if I was repeatedly arresting the same person because they kept getting let out by the courts all the time.....
The courts are also operating with their hands tied behind their backs to an extent. A friend of mine is a magistrate and I asked her recently why stiffer sentences weren't handed out. She basically said that most magistrates she knew only wished the could, but they were always operating within government guidelines and 'recommendations'.
Any government that can say, "oh dear, our prisons are full, so lets only imprison someone if they've done something worse that that which would get the imprisoned currently" is simply stupid and sending out a terrible moral message. The answer to prison overcrowding can be deduced via simple logic:
Prisons are overcrowded.
We need more space but it is expensive.
Look at the cost per prisoner - can it, and more importantly, should it, be reduced?
Yes.
Cut the cost per prisoner by 50%+ (very easy if you lock them up in dingy rooms, packed in like sardines and take away their TVs, pool tables, gyms, etc.).
Now double the number of prisons.
Now have lots of space, can hand out longer sentences to people like paedophiles(20yrs+), murderers (30yrs+), rapists (20yrs+), muggers (10yrs+), etc.
This should act as a deterrent, hence reducing crime (also see point below about making them work).
Of course the above is grossly simplified and prevention is always better than cure so lots of other things need to be done that I don't have time for here.
One crucial point to my beliefs is that those who commit a crime should REALLY repay their debt to society. Not by doing 20hrs of community service for mugging an old lady but getting banged up for 10yrs, being taught building/construction skills, and repairing our road network, public transport infrastructure, dry stone walls, etc. at low cost. We even have them doing the mining, etc. They shouldn't put too many people out of jobs as they will be doing extra work, not replacing those doing the level of work that goes on now.
It's important to note that I think they should be paid for their work! (Whilst still reducing the overall cost). My idea is that they get paid £x/week, x% of which goes into a fund for when they get out (unless they have done something really nasty) and the remainder of which is used to buy their privileges. I am aware that a limited form of this is already used but to my knowledge there is nothing like this on a national scale and with the payout at the end.
The purpose of the payout is to give them something to start from. Then if they go back in to a life of crime they get banged up for twice as long as they have no excuse - they have some money, skills and experience of working. We get something out of them - improvements to our standard of living and our country.
Our also believe that corporal punishment in schools should be reintroduced but under a much stricter framework as I have heard too many stories of unfair and severe punishments being meated out. My proposal is to have a committee made up of the school headteacher, another teacher (excluding the person who is proposing the punishment - although they are allowed to submit written evidence they should not be there as their colleagues could feel pressured) and a policeman and/or a social worker. These would be held maybe once a week and the punishment could be dealt out by the head or perhaps the policeman? If it were done by the policeman we might even see children starting to respect them and that should carry through to adulthood. Of course, I'm not proposing that each case takes three hours to sort out, just a few minutes as there are likely to be quite a few, but the idea is that the teacher has to justify the punishment and has time to regain his/her cool and make a reasonable decision.
Though there is a considerable investment of time and resources here I think the potential payback in the long term is worth considering....
Chaning the topic altogether - the RIPA bill. Hmmmm... what a load of sh!te. Here's the logic:
Police demand your encryption key and/or password as they have a feeling you've been up to something.
You're either
(a) an innocent member of the public who doesn't want their privacy being violated and you refuse. You are given up to 2yrs in prison under the RIPA laws.
(b) an innocent member of the public who doesn't want their privacy being violated but is too scared so gives the key/password over, though they have done nothing wrong and anything private you have on your machine (e-mails, personal diary, pictures of the wife n@ked, etc.) is viewed
(c) a terrorist/murder/paedophile/serious criminal who has incriminating evidence encyrpted on your comupter. You know that if you give your key/password you'll get decades in prison. So, obviously you refuse to hand over your key/password so you get at most 2yrs in prison instead of 10, 20 or more.
If anyone can tell me how that is intended to catch terrorists and serious criminals I'll eat my TVR with soy sauce and a bottle of red. What the bill does do is give the government and all their cronies carte blanche to spy on ordinary Joe Public. There is even talk now of GPS systems being inserted in mobile phone batteries so that you can be tracked (remember, you are tracked by default and the records kept for years even when you are not using your phone but it is just switched on) regardless of whether the phone is on or not. Combine this with e-mail interception, the most observed (via CCTV) population IN THE WORLD and, lo and behold, Big Brother came several years ago and most of us didn't even notice, or even care... (I won't even go in to DNA samples being taken from people - criminals should be made to give their fingerprints as they can only provide ID, DNA however can tell you an enormous amount about a person, e.g. their intelligence, likelihood of getting certain diseases, genetic/family background, etc.)
Right, it's 10:40pm and I'm still at work and can't be @rsed to write anything else now. I'd be interested to hear peoples comments (constructive please!) and suggestions for improving and/or adding to my ideas, or identification of weakeness.
If anyone wants to e-mail through pistonheads then please feel free.
Regards.
roadsweeper.
PS: Outlaw, I've liked some of your posts in the past but it sounds like your trying to say that "some car thieves are alright." Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm right then you've gone down considerably in my opinion. It's one thing to criticse the police for @nally enforcing stupid speed laws, quite another to criticse them for trying to keep us safe from thieving scum who don't care whether they ruin people's lives or not. Let me put it this way, any car thief caught after doing 90mph in a 30mph zone would get 5yrs if it were up to me.
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Really interesting thread and some very good points raised. Good stuff from the policeman on these forums I thought.
As some of you will know I am (very slowly) attempting to put a basic manifesto together with the aim of starting my own political party. This is going to take a while due to the nature of my work but I'll get there eventually. In the meantime, here are my thoughts on crime:
Yes, there are some bad policeman out there, but I genuinely believe that most of them are decent people who have their hands tied behind their back, not by the judiciary as such but by the government. I know I would get very disillusioned if I was repeatedly arresting the same person because they kept getting let out by the courts all the time.....
The courts are also operating with their hands tied behind their backs to an extent. A friend of mine is a magistrate and I asked her recently why stiffer sentences weren't handed out. She basically said that most magistrates she knew only wished the could, but they were always operating within government guidelines and 'recommendations'.
Any government that can say, "oh dear, our prisons are full, so lets only imprison someone if they've done something worse that that which would get the imprisoned currently" is simply stupid and sending out a terrible moral message. The answer to prison overcrowding can be deduced via simple logic:
Prisons are overcrowded.
We need more space but it is expensive.
Look at the cost per prisoner - can it, and more importantly, should it, be reduced?
Yes.
Cut the cost per prisoner by 50%+ (very easy if you lock them up in dingy rooms, packed in like sardines and take away their TVs, pool tables, gyms, etc.).
Now double the number of prisons.
Now have lots of space, can hand out longer sentences to people like paedophiles(20yrs+), murderers (30yrs+), rapists (20yrs+), muggers (10yrs+), etc.
This should act as a deterrent, hence reducing crime (also see point below about making them work).
Of course the above is grossly simplified and prevention is always better than cure so lots of other things need to be done that I don't have time for here.
One crucial point to my beliefs is that those who commit a crime should REALLY repay their debt to society. Not by doing 20hrs of community service for mugging an old lady but getting banged up for 10yrs, being taught building/construction skills, and repairing our road network, public transport infrastructure, dry stone walls, etc. at low cost. We even have them doing the mining, etc. They shouldn't put too many people out of jobs as they will be doing extra work, not replacing those doing the level of work that goes on now.
It's important to note that I think they should be paid for their work! (Whilst still reducing the overall cost). My idea is that they get paid £x/week, x% of which goes into a fund for when they get out (unless they have done something really nasty) and the remainder of which is used to buy their privileges. I am aware that a limited form of this is already used but to my knowledge there is nothing like this on a national scale and with the payout at the end.
The purpose of the payout is to give them something to start from. Then if they go back in to a life of crime they get banged up for twice as long as they have no excuse - they have some money, skills and experience of working. We get something out of them - improvements to our standard of living and our country.
Our also believe that corporal punishment in schools should be reintroduced but under a much stricter framework as I have heard too many stories of unfair and severe punishments being meated out. My proposal is to have a committee made up of the school headteacher, another teacher (excluding the person who is proposing the punishment - although they are allowed to submit written evidence they should not be there as their colleagues could feel pressured) and a policeman and/or a social worker. These would be held maybe once a week and the punishment could be dealt out by the head or perhaps the policeman? If it were done by the policeman we might even see children starting to respect them and that should carry through to adulthood. Of course, I'm not proposing that each case takes three hours to sort out, just a few minutes as there are likely to be quite a few, but the idea is that the teacher has to justify the punishment and has time to regain his/her cool and make a reasonable decision.
Though there is a considerable investment of time and resources here I think the potential payback in the long term is worth considering....
Chaning the topic altogether - the RIPA bill. Hmmmm... what a load of sh!te. Here's the logic:
Police demand your encryption key and/or password as they have a feeling you've been up to something.
You're either
(a) an innocent member of the public who doesn't want their privacy being violated and you refuse. You are given up to 2yrs in prison under the RIPA laws.
(b) an innocent member of the public who doesn't want their privacy being violated but is too scared so gives the key/password over, though they have done nothing wrong and anything private you have on your machine (e-mails, personal diary, pictures of the wife n@ked, etc.) is viewed
(c) a terrorist/murder/paedophile/serious criminal who has incriminating evidence encyrpted on your comupter. You know that if you give your key/password you'll get decades in prison. So, obviously you refuse to hand over your key/password so you get at most 2yrs in prison instead of 10, 20 or more.
If anyone can tell me how that is intended to catch terrorists and serious criminals I'll eat my TVR with soy sauce and a bottle of red. What the bill does do is give the government and all their cronies carte blanche to spy on ordinary Joe Public. There is even talk now of GPS systems being inserted in mobile phone batteries so that you can be tracked (remember, you are tracked by default and the records kept for years even when you are not using your phone but it is just switched on) regardless of whether the phone is on or not. Combine this with e-mail interception, the most observed (via CCTV) population IN THE WORLD and, lo and behold, Big Brother came several years ago and most of us didn't even notice, or even care... (I won't even go in to DNA samples being taken from people - criminals should be made to give their fingerprints as they can only provide ID, DNA however can tell you an enormous amount about a person, e.g. their intelligence, likelihood of getting certain diseases, genetic/family background, etc.)
Right, it's 10:40pm and I'm still at work and can't be @rsed to write anything else now. I'd be interested to hear peoples comments (constructive please!) and suggestions for improving and/or adding to my ideas, or identification of weakeness.
If anyone wants to e-mail through pistonheads then please feel free.
Regards.
roadsweeper.
PS: Outlaw, I've liked some of your posts in the past but it sounds like your trying to say that "some car thieves are alright." Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm right then you've gone down considerably in my opinion. It's one thing to criticse the police for @nally enforcing stupid speed laws, quite another to criticse them for trying to keep us safe from thieving scum who don't care whether they ruin people's lives or not. Let me put it this way, any car thief caught after doing 90mph in a 30mph zone would get 5yrs if it were up to me.
no m8 you got me wroung
and a kid doing 90 in a 30 is more likely to get life, from hitting a brick wall than 5 years anyway
you mixing up a car thief with a joy rider m8.
I never said I was a Ex joyrider there a hell of a difference m8.
A joy rider wants to race round like a twat. and burn it or ends up wapping it around a tree or kill them selfss and some one else in the prosess.
a car thief wants it in the lock up as soon as poss and get home and put his feet up till the next one, Job done.
A high speed chase is the last thing they want
car theft aint TWOC they are two diferent things.
yea Ill grant you crime ait right or moral.
but what the thieving scum goverments/and big thieving scum buisnesses do to the public every days a bigger crime.
while on the subject of thieving scum . The royal Firm woops family spring to mind.
untill every man woman and child give`s up greed there will, aways be crime simple as that.
maybe one day mankind will give it up,If we dont blow our selfs up first.
but then again greed is human nature aint it
evolouton aint got that far yea has it?
A world without greed is like Communism, a great idear but It cant never work because someone will allways gets greedy. Its human nature.
right where the RIPA bill comes in is a few few years back when Zimmerman relised public key incription to the masses, the PGP prograM
It got the boys aT the top vere woried for the first time in the history the public could send a comunication that they could not read.
THEY COULD NOT BE HAVING THAT SO IT WANT LONG BEFORE THE NICKED HIM FOR TRANSPORTING WEPONS IN THE STATES.
and leaned on him to he givem a back door in.
hence proving there aint no freedom in the land of the free.
hence the RIPA bill no such thing as privast anywhere left on the globe m8.
"I am going to murder the prime minister"
"I have just solved the cold fusion problem"
that will give em some thing to read when the message get tagged for human atention by the computers.
the law has never been nor will be about justist or what is write or wroung Its all about keeping the pesants in there place.
before the law they used the church to club the pesants and colect the Tax in the name of god.
nothing much has changed much since then just the mean are more complicated.
and the peasants had a better chance of hidding in the old days.
one more thing on the RIPA bill
It never going to work any way they dint think it out very well
as everyone forgets passwords
and you cant tell em if you dont remember and they cant tell if you realy cant remember till the invent a mind reading gizmo.
>> Edited by outlaw on Friday 14th June 05:04
>> Edited by outlaw on Friday 14th June 05:09
Roadsweeper Brilliant post mate - I'd vote for you 
Time to have fun by saying lots of keywords over your mobile then posting it round the country then
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There is even talk now of GPS systems being inserted in mobile phone batteries so that you can be tracked (remember, you are tracked by default and the records kept for years even when you are not using your phone but it is just switched on) regardless of whether the phone is on or not
Time to have fun by saying lots of keywords over your mobile then posting it round the country then
Outlaw got me thinking... has anyone noticed the check digits on all standard barcodes? They all have 3 6s, i.e. 666.
Reading from the book of revelations (can't quote as I dont know it word for word): everything bought and sold will carry the mark of the devil (six, threescore and six) or his name. And man will pay for everything using a mark on his hand or his head...
Heard rumours about an intention to place a chip in the hand that could be used for our "credits" eliminating the use of money.
Strange.
Reading from the book of revelations (can't quote as I dont know it word for word): everything bought and sold will carry the mark of the devil (six, threescore and six) or his name. And man will pay for everything using a mark on his hand or his head...
Heard rumours about an intention to place a chip in the hand that could be used for our "credits" eliminating the use of money.
Strange.
Before I left the Police there was active talk of GPS type tracking systems being put in Officers radios to locate them. Their every movements would be tracked and logged so the bosses knew where you where at all times. Perhaps Madcop or John Robson could tell me how far this systme has come, but three years ago it was readily available.
Anyway, are we sure there are no such devices in our mobiles now
Anyway, are we sure there are no such devices in our mobiles now
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Reading from the book of revelations (can't quote as I dont know it word for word): everything bought and sold will carry the mark of the devil (six, threescore and six) or his name. And man will pay for everything using a mark on his hand or his head...
Woe to you oh Earth and sea, for the devil sends the beast with wrath, for he knows the time is short. Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast - for it is a human number - it's number is six hundred and sixty-six
Thanks go to Iron Maiden for that quote
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Anyway, are we sure there are no such devices in our mobiles now
Yup, cos I know a couple of people who work for companies that are developing them. The hardware is pretty much there, but the software isn't yet....
Craig
yes your quite right the goverments leaned on them to install the hardware, at the moment they can pin point you to the nearest cell.
when the systems go live in a few years the will be able to pin point you to the exact spot your stading on
when it go`s live my mobile go`s in the bin and the contract will be canciled.
Im not going to pay for the goverment to trace every move i make.
soon after that the control of cctv will be taken out of the hand of the private sector and will all be linked to a centeral computer system.
the cctv will cover the bit that the saterlites miss.
why you think they put so much monye in cctv
because of a few mugging on the street I dont think so do you ?
and I would like to see every one do the same until the phone compaint remove the system or go out of buissness.
lfe and fredom as we know it now, will be over in the next ten years.
>> Edited by outlaw on Friday 14th June 18:38
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Time to have fun by saying lots of keywords over your mobile then posting it round the country then
Funny how most dodgy p@rn sites have XX-X in the URL, it was let slip that during valentines day this year the 'snooping spider' system used to monitor mobile text messages was overloaded by genuine messages, kisses (XX-X) being sent to loved ones. Not that such a system exist
, thats why you have to remove the - from between the X's, don't want the web spider picking up the post here 
Harry
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Before I left the Police there was active talk of GPS type tracking systems being put in Officers radios to locate them. Their every movements would be tracked and logged so the bosses knew where you where at all times. Perhaps Madcop or John Robson could tell me how far this systme has come, but three years ago it was readily available.
Anyway, are we sure there are no such devices in our mobiles now
You are not wrong phil.
Hows this for a worrying development.
The new multi million £ TETRA radio system that is being groomed to replace the police radio network starting this year and being universal within the next three years across the country.
This system has GPS built into it so you can be tracked continually even when the radio is switched off!!
The control rooms will also be able to open up the channel of individual officers so that they can be heard without the officer pressing any transmit buttons.
The idea behind that is apparently safety whereby if you are uncontactable from the control centre, they will be able to locete and listen to see if you are in danger. Very comendable but I doubt for a minute that that is what it will be used for.
It will be used to evesdrop on random conversations to find out political views etc.
Personally I have no problem being listened to, as I try and remain fair and balanced in all that I do, but imagine a private conversation with your partner on a mobile or something like that.
Very worrying.
No need for outlaw to carry his tape recorder any more as it can be heard at the press of a button from somewhere else.
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