Drifter convicted of dangerous driving
Discussion
md. said:
Don't know if this vid has been posted in a while.
Always comes to mind when Hartside is mentioned...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6WthVp8G10
The guy who posted it doesn't like some of the feedback he's getting! Always comes to mind when Hartside is mentioned...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6WthVp8G10
Joeguard1990 said:
I blame his legal team if he had one.
All they had was a video with no number plates on the car and no way to identify the driver?
Except.......... as in his own words he thinks someone shopped him, so possibly a sworn statement saying who the driver was. He could of course tried to defend this by lying in court and committing perjury, but maybe someone with half a brain advised him not to unless he fancied a free holiday, courtesy of her Majesty.All they had was a video with no number plates on the car and no way to identify the driver?
Verdict - double cock
What would have happened if the driver denied it was him?
The Police/CPS based their dangerous driving charge on the video evidence posted to Facebook and a report from an acquaintance of the driver. It sounds as if the person who reported him is keeping a low profile – so I’m guessing they wouldn’t have stood up in court and testified against him.
If the Police/CPS were just left with the video evidence would the charge of stood up in court? The video I viewed doesn’t clearly show a number plate nor the driver’s face, so I imagine he would have got off scot free.
I know he pleaded guilty, hence the conviction and penalties he received but if he had of been less honest would he have gotten away with it?
The Police/CPS based their dangerous driving charge on the video evidence posted to Facebook and a report from an acquaintance of the driver. It sounds as if the person who reported him is keeping a low profile – so I’m guessing they wouldn’t have stood up in court and testified against him.
If the Police/CPS were just left with the video evidence would the charge of stood up in court? The video I viewed doesn’t clearly show a number plate nor the driver’s face, so I imagine he would have got off scot free.
I know he pleaded guilty, hence the conviction and penalties he received but if he had of been less honest would he have gotten away with it?
Who knows? Who cares?
Besides, if this was a thread in NPE about Scrotey Sid getting off some beef by fibbing and/ or by dirty lawyer tricks, all would say OMG broken Britain. But here it's all "and I would have got away with it if not for those meddling, er .... facts.". Because motorist.
Besides, if this was a thread in NPE about Scrotey Sid getting off some beef by fibbing and/ or by dirty lawyer tricks, all would say OMG broken Britain. But here it's all "and I would have got away with it if not for those meddling, er .... facts.". Because motorist.
Breadvan72 said:
Who knows? Who cares?
Besides, if this was a thread in NPE about Scrotey Sid getting off some beef by fibbing and/ or by dirty lawyer tricks, all would say OMG broken Britain. But here it's all "and I would have got away with it if not for those meddling, er .... facts.". Because motorist.
To be fair though on those that do question certain things, I think its more of a dis-proportionality between punishments given out from courts to public whereby in one case you get crims planning an 'activity' that creates victims, damages and loss, and those that plan an 'activity' that has no victims or resultant consequences (that being damage to person or infrastructure).Besides, if this was a thread in NPE about Scrotey Sid getting off some beef by fibbing and/ or by dirty lawyer tricks, all would say OMG broken Britain. But here it's all "and I would have got away with it if not for those meddling, er .... facts.". Because motorist.
Especially when the judge decides its going to be an 'example' case.
Wonder if this individual will get charged for dangerous driving
http://www.theladbible.com/articles/motorist-cause...
http://www.theladbible.com/articles/motorist-cause...
This one has been sentenced today too:
Chester man filmed himself driving at breakneck speeds
Published date: 16 July 2015 |
Published by: Staff reporter
A 49-year-old man from Chester admitted dangerous driving after filming himself driving at breakneck speeds around Cheshire and North Wales with a terrified passenger.
Frederick Randles, 49, from Heath Bank in Chester was sentenced to nine months in prison suspended for two years at Chester Crown Court on 16 July 2015. He was also ordered to carry out 250 hours of unpaid work, was disqualified from driving for 18 months and has to take an extended test. He was also ordered to pay £2,000 costs.
He pleaded guilty to two counts of dangerous driving and one count of careless driving, but pleaded not guilty to three further counts of dangerous driving which the prosecution have agreed to lie on file.
In January 2014 North Wales Police, were alerted to numerous items of footage with different passengers which had been uploaded onto Youtube.
The footage showed an Ariel Atom car being driven dangerously along B5130 between Saighton, Holt and Farndon areas of Chester and Lake Brenig and Nant Y Garth in North Wales.
http://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/150384/chest...
Chester man filmed himself driving at breakneck speeds
Published date: 16 July 2015 |
Published by: Staff reporter
A 49-year-old man from Chester admitted dangerous driving after filming himself driving at breakneck speeds around Cheshire and North Wales with a terrified passenger.
Frederick Randles, 49, from Heath Bank in Chester was sentenced to nine months in prison suspended for two years at Chester Crown Court on 16 July 2015. He was also ordered to carry out 250 hours of unpaid work, was disqualified from driving for 18 months and has to take an extended test. He was also ordered to pay £2,000 costs.
He pleaded guilty to two counts of dangerous driving and one count of careless driving, but pleaded not guilty to three further counts of dangerous driving which the prosecution have agreed to lie on file.
In January 2014 North Wales Police, were alerted to numerous items of footage with different passengers which had been uploaded onto Youtube.
The footage showed an Ariel Atom car being driven dangerously along B5130 between Saighton, Holt and Farndon areas of Chester and Lake Brenig and Nant Y Garth in North Wales.
http://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/150384/chest...
tapereel said:
This one has been sentenced today too:
Chester man filmed himself driving at breakneck speeds
Published date: 16 July 2015 |
Published by: Staff reporter
A 49-year-old man from Chester admitted dangerous driving after filming himself driving at breakneck speeds around Cheshire and North Wales with a terrified passenger.
Frederick Randles, 49, from Heath Bank in Chester was sentenced to nine months in prison suspended for two years at Chester Crown Court on 16 July 2015. He was also ordered to carry out 250 hours of unpaid work, was disqualified from driving for 18 months and has to take an extended test. He was also ordered to pay £2,000 costs.
He pleaded guilty to two counts of dangerous driving and one count of careless driving, but pleaded not guilty to three further counts of dangerous driving which the prosecution have agreed to lie on file.
In January 2014 North Wales Police, were alerted to numerous items of footage with different passengers which had been uploaded onto Youtube.
The footage showed an Ariel Atom car being driven dangerously along B5130 between Saighton, Holt and Farndon areas of Chester and Lake Brenig and Nant Y Garth in North Wales.
http://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/150384/chest...
Having watched the video, it looks quite slow for what an Atom can do. Chester man filmed himself driving at breakneck speeds
Published date: 16 July 2015 |
Published by: Staff reporter
A 49-year-old man from Chester admitted dangerous driving after filming himself driving at breakneck speeds around Cheshire and North Wales with a terrified passenger.
Frederick Randles, 49, from Heath Bank in Chester was sentenced to nine months in prison suspended for two years at Chester Crown Court on 16 July 2015. He was also ordered to carry out 250 hours of unpaid work, was disqualified from driving for 18 months and has to take an extended test. He was also ordered to pay £2,000 costs.
He pleaded guilty to two counts of dangerous driving and one count of careless driving, but pleaded not guilty to three further counts of dangerous driving which the prosecution have agreed to lie on file.
In January 2014 North Wales Police, were alerted to numerous items of footage with different passengers which had been uploaded onto Youtube.
The footage showed an Ariel Atom car being driven dangerously along B5130 between Saighton, Holt and Farndon areas of Chester and Lake Brenig and Nant Y Garth in North Wales.
http://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/150384/chest...
spikeyhead said:
tapereel said:
This one has been sentenced today too:
Chester man filmed himself driving at breakneck speeds
Published date: 16 July 2015 |
Published by: Staff reporter
A 49-year-old man from Chester admitted dangerous driving after filming himself driving at breakneck speeds around Cheshire and North Wales with a terrified passenger.
Frederick Randles, 49, from Heath Bank in Chester was sentenced to nine months in prison suspended for two years at Chester Crown Court on 16 July 2015. He was also ordered to carry out 250 hours of unpaid work, was disqualified from driving for 18 months and has to take an extended test. He was also ordered to pay £2,000 costs.
He pleaded guilty to two counts of dangerous driving and one count of careless driving, but pleaded not guilty to three further counts of dangerous driving which the prosecution have agreed to lie on file.
In January 2014 North Wales Police, were alerted to numerous items of footage with different passengers which had been uploaded onto Youtube.
The footage showed an Ariel Atom car being driven dangerously along B5130 between Saighton, Holt and Farndon areas of Chester and Lake Brenig and Nant Y Garth in North Wales.
http://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/150384/chest...
Having watched the video, it looks quite slow for what an Atom can do. Chester man filmed himself driving at breakneck speeds
Published date: 16 July 2015 |
Published by: Staff reporter
A 49-year-old man from Chester admitted dangerous driving after filming himself driving at breakneck speeds around Cheshire and North Wales with a terrified passenger.
Frederick Randles, 49, from Heath Bank in Chester was sentenced to nine months in prison suspended for two years at Chester Crown Court on 16 July 2015. He was also ordered to carry out 250 hours of unpaid work, was disqualified from driving for 18 months and has to take an extended test. He was also ordered to pay £2,000 costs.
He pleaded guilty to two counts of dangerous driving and one count of careless driving, but pleaded not guilty to three further counts of dangerous driving which the prosecution have agreed to lie on file.
In January 2014 North Wales Police, were alerted to numerous items of footage with different passengers which had been uploaded onto Youtube.
The footage showed an Ariel Atom car being driven dangerously along B5130 between Saighton, Holt and Farndon areas of Chester and Lake Brenig and Nant Y Garth in North Wales.
http://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/150384/chest...
Bradley1500 said:
I was asking to see people's thoughts and I care or I wouldn't of asked.
Obviously he was guilty as he decided to drift on the public road, but I feel if he hadn't of admitted the offence he wouldn't have been convicted.
there is probably some sticker or other identifying feature to show it's his car. Then, as the RK, he's asked to name the driver. Start lying then leads to a world of pain. Guilty, perjury or permitting others to drive while uninsured, etc.Obviously he was guilty as he decided to drift on the public road, but I feel if he hadn't of admitted the offence he wouldn't have been convicted.
speedking31 said:
Bradley1500 said:
I was asking to see people's thoughts and I care or I wouldn't of asked.
Obviously he was guilty as he decided to drift on the public road, but I feel if he hadn't of admitted the offence he wouldn't have been convicted.
there is probably some sticker or other identifying feature to show it's his car. Then, as the RK, he's asked to name the driver. Start lying then leads to a world of pain. Guilty, perjury or permitting others to drive while uninsured, etc.Obviously he was guilty as he decided to drift on the public road, but I feel if he hadn't of admitted the offence he wouldn't have been convicted.
Add in the fact that the way it being handled clearly points to a driver who is more than just your average chav 'boy racer' (I do wish ignorant media reporters could refrain from spouting such stereotypical emotive b
s). That narrows down the list of potential suspects quite considerably. It doesn't take a degree in rocket science to work out where to start looking. As an experiment I did a methodical Google search without using his name, just the words drift and touge. I found him and his S14 in less than 30 minutes. All it would need is a police officer with some brains and an interest in cars to do likewise. Heck even the Keystone Cops might have managed it given a spare morning or afternoon!Merely removing the front number plate (yet keeping the rear one
) was never going to guarantee anonymity. It also betrays the fact that the driver knew full well that what he was doing was contrary to the RTA 1988 and would have major consequences if he was found out. He needs to choose his friends more carefully as well. The twazzock who posted the vid on social media might as well have taken out a full page ad in the tabloids.eccles said:
Mike22233 said:
So it's ok for Chris Harris but not this guy?
Many of the TopGear road tests show dodgy driving on public roads as well.Where's the difference? Same level of evidence, surely...
I would also state, for those on here castigating the poor sod, that there will be a LOT of people on here who've deliberately provoked their car on the road, the only difference being they didn't video it and host it. There but for the grace of god and all that...
So, how about we take the "let him who is without sin..." approach, m'kay?!?
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