RE: Police Too Busy

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mondeoman

11,430 posts

268 months

Tuesday 12th March 2002
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After all, its the traffic department who keep the roads moving. If it weren’t for them, the country would grind to a halt.








CarZee

13,382 posts

269 months

Tuesday 12th March 2002
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You need to hand in your license if you're getting Epilepsy, mate

Jason F

1,183 posts

286 months

Tuesday 12th March 2002
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I am aware of how unlikely it is that most of us will actually bother writing to our MP, council etc, for all our incessant bitching. Having done this, I also know how unproductive an excercise it is, should you actually get around to it.



I have done this, and am formulating a response to his answers (they were not really too convincing). Can someone also post the URL of the site to mail your MP, cause I have quite a few bones to pick...........

CarZee

13,382 posts

269 months

Tuesday 12th March 2002
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hertsbiker

6,317 posts

273 months

Tuesday 12th March 2002
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Surely the fact that it's one of the easiest 'crimes' to police is a factor. It's black and white - you were either speeding or you weren't and the amount of evidence required to be produced in support of the accusation is minimal in comparison to other crimes.



Not so! The evidence can be incorrect, or illegally obtained. Or the subject may have mitigation. Or may wish to invoke Article 6. And the evidence may be rigged, which is worse. It does happen, despite what they say.

C

Jason F

1,183 posts

286 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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I like www.faxyourmp.com



Thank u.. I can see me using this a LOT !!!

XPLOD

53 posts

268 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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Can I just clear up one myth concerning "the clear up rate." Most crimes are classed as "recordable crimes." These include theft, damage, and even more minor offences such as littering. They do not however include speeding. The number of tickets/prosecutions for speeding has no effect on crime figures or detection rates!

big rumbly

973 posts

286 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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Hi XPLOD,
is this really true?
Quote"The number of tickets/prosecutions for speeding has no effect on crime figures or detection rates!
Then why so much attention/time given to it?


Regards
Big Rumbly


XPLOD

53 posts

268 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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Hello Big Rumbly
Just to clarify; when Police do their files for prosecutions, the are either "Crime" or "Non-Crime." That is not to say speeding isn't a crime, the point is you do not have a criminal record if you get a speeding ticket. You do if you get caught say stealing. Geddit? Out of interest, Drink Driving comes under Crime, and you do get a criminal record, i.e. a CRO (Criminal Record Office) number.
The reason the Police pay attention to speeding is because there are these wonderful things called Government initialives. They include things like reducing the fear of crime, working in partnership with other agencies/communities. They have included for many years reduce road deaths and casualties. This is done through various types of enforcement; including marked patrols, unmarked cars, Vascar/Laser speed traps, use of mobile Gatsos and so on.
So motoring matters don't form part of "Crime" statistics like number of muggings detected, but are obviously looked at closely.

Jason F

1,183 posts

286 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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So motoring matters don't form part of "Crime" statistics like number of muggings detected, but are obviously looked at closely.



I think Motoring offences per se have been reclassified into a new section created and hereafter known as 'Soft Easy Target' or 'Tax for having the Audacity to own a motor vehicle and yet not be in Govt'

hertsbiker

6,317 posts

273 months

Thursday 21st March 2002
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We need to make a pressure group to counter "fear of being nicked" !!! set it up legally like, and get a grant to issue everyone with Geodesy & flip-up number plates !!

C