RE: Firestarter
Discussion
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When you get bored with thermite check out this guy's web site.
http://ghg.ecn.purdue.edu/~ghg/
He lights barbeques by pouring gallons and gallons of liquid oxygen on them. Now, you resourceful guys should be able to adapt this technique to the humble gatso
Hmmmmmm Very Interesting! Now where did I put that liquid Oxygen!
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WARNING: an ignition source, such as a lit cigarette or one glowing coal, must be present before pouring on the LOX. If charcoal is PRESOAKED in LOX first, an explosion will result. One briquette presoaked in LOX is approx equiv to 1 stick of dynamite.
So basically, if you put a candle, the little ones that come in a silver tray thingy, on top of a gatso, then threw LOX at it, cause a flame!!
So that means that sitting a tray of LOX on top of a gatso and throwing a Flare of similar into it, it would
!!! 
Right, maybe a scientist can answer this, What temp does LOX evaporate? And would just adding a flame to it in a vacuum cause it to go bang??? I has an idea!!!
If you put LOX in a sealed tray, with loads of Charcoal in the tray too! Put a fuse on it, maybe a 30 second one, and put on somekind of device that, when a light hits it it causes a spark and lights said fuse! So if someone sets of a Gatso, this Flash hits the 'device' which lights the spark and 30 seconds later, no evidence, no gatso!!
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Otherwise known as thermite I believe.
Those who are studying exothermic chemical reactions at university/college may be interested to learn that an effective reactant ratio is 8:3 iron oxide : aluminium powder (weight/weight). In order to trigger the release of thermal energy a lighted magnesium strip is recommended. When handling this material it is strongly suggested that all appropriate health and safety guidelines are adhered etc etc (cont. p94)...yawn.
This information was in no way gleaned from an edition of an particular science cook er..text book which I can happily say I have never seen in my life before, and whose authors may have either sadly passed away or be incarcerated in a state penitentiary somewhere in the US.
This is clearly a sign of a misspent youth but there are lots of things you can make, Blue Peter style, from handy household materials.
There's plenty of helpful web sites and Petrol Ted wouldn't thank me for getting this site shut down by giving you detailed instructions on how to make your own napalm (hint - don't throw away those polystyrene slabs you new video came packed in) or how to pack ammonium nitrate and diesel oil into a milk churn (popular with the Irish lads that one) or even how to make nitro glycerine (don't try that one at home, I'm not joking here, it is seriously f*****g dangerous)
Not that I would ever advocate the use of such things against public property but you can have a lot of fun in the back garden
There's plenty of helpful web sites and Petrol Ted wouldn't thank me for getting this site shut down by giving you detailed instructions on how to make your own napalm (hint - don't throw away those polystyrene slabs you new video came packed in) or how to pack ammonium nitrate and diesel oil into a milk churn (popular with the Irish lads that one) or even how to make nitro glycerine (don't try that one at home, I'm not joking here, it is seriously f*****g dangerous)
Not that I would ever advocate the use of such things against public property but you can have a lot of fun in the back garden
Another highly amusing 'experiment' is to put Dry Ice (solid CO2, -70 deg C) in a 500ml coke bottle, screw the lid down tight, and run away. Last time we tried it the bang set off car alarms 50 metres away!!!
LOX evapourates at -183 deg C - rather nippy you might say It's an oxidant, and therefore needs a fuel in order to go bang. It will not cause a bang in a vacuum, but the flame would burn very brightly
>> Edited by Fatboy on Monday 18th March 12:38
LOX evapourates at -183 deg C - rather nippy you might say
It's an oxidant, and therefore needs a fuel in order to go bang. It will not cause a bang in a vacuum, but the flame would burn very brightly >> Edited by Fatboy on Monday 18th March 12:38
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LOX evapourates at -183 deg C - rather nippy you might say
Well thats that idea out the window! So it doesn't go bang, but would it explode? (There is no noise in a vacuum, even I know that!) If it wouldn't work in a vacuum, then we could just put it in an open contaier and throw a match at it!
I'm liking this idea already!!!! Steve, any chance you could e-mail some of these 'dangerous' things to me?!?!?! I have a couple of mates that reckon they are soldiers! A few bangs and flashes here and there would soon sort them out!!!
Far be it from me to support actions of criminal damage. Might I suggest a decent size square of Duck tape over the camera lens? This would be very quick indeed, even quicker than the spray paint, and would not wash off or allow the camera to possibly see through the paint. It wouldn't be detected until someone came to change the film. 
Might I suggest a decent size square of Duck tape over the camera lens? This would be very quick indeed, even quicker than the spray paint, and would not wash off or allow the camera to possibly see through the paint. It wouldn't be detected until someone came to change the film. Thats a wonderful idea - whose gonna be brave enuff to try it first tho........ and how big does the tape have to be...
Get yourself a white van with orange strips, some orange flashing lights (make it look like yer meant to be there), park up next to a camera, grab yer step ladders, up, stick, down, gone - 2 mins tops... Perfect!!
Get yourself a white van with orange strips, some orange flashing lights (make it look like yer meant to be there), park up next to a camera, grab yer step ladders, up, stick, down, gone - 2 mins tops... Perfect!!
Or a can of ORANGE spray paint with a large (big jet not mist) nozzle. Then no need for a ladder etc, just nonchalantly walk past, spray, and byeeee.......
And NEVER Ducktape as it carries fingerprints.... or didn't the boys in blue tell you?
>> Edited by JMGS4 on Thursday 21st March 07:59
And NEVER Ducktape as it carries fingerprints.... or didn't the boys in blue tell you?
>> Edited by JMGS4 on Thursday 21st March 07:59
I would say about 3" square should do it.
GLOVES!! Why is the detection rate for burglary so low?
There is an offence of going eqipped to commit criminal damage. Pair of disposable gloves and tape in a boot are routine! Word of warning: If anyone does actually take up this idea, destroy the remainder of the role of tape. The Forensic Science Service (who the Police use for their clever forensic examinations) can examine tape, and match a piece of tape to the role it came from. They can also perform a mechanical fit from the bit torn off to the roll!
That said, I can't evisage a Senior Officer authorising the expense of such an examination for a matter such as this, so perhaps I'm being just a little too careful! 
GLOVES!! Why is the detection rate for burglary so low?
There is an offence of going eqipped to commit criminal damage. Pair of disposable gloves and tape in a boot are routine! Word of warning: If anyone does actually take up this idea, destroy the remainder of the role of tape. The Forensic Science Service (who the Police use for their clever forensic examinations) can examine tape, and match a piece of tape to the role it came from. They can also perform a mechanical fit from the bit torn off to the roll!
That said, I can't evisage a Senior Officer authorising the expense of such an examination for a matter such as this, so perhaps I'm being just a little too careful!
But I can see Mr Self Important Superintendent authorising ANY amount to catch those heinious criminals that damaged his precious revenue camera!! lololololololol
Talking about the use of gloves, the well-intentioned individual responsible for this was perhaps a little confused as to their actual purpose:
Pic from www.speedcam.co.uk
Pic from www.speedcam.co.uk
I'm so glad to hear the appetite for destruction is still upon you all.. however, aren't you a tiny bit worried that "the man" is going to flag up your interest in such deeds..?
By the way, my summons has come through, but I don't care - my mitigation is cast iron and true. For once!
C
By the way, my summons has come through, but I don't care - my mitigation is cast iron and true. For once!
C
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