Top 10 tips if you get pulled over
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Druid said:
Rusty Arches said:
Probing questions such as "Do you have any idea how fast you were going"
Known as the attitude test.I'm never anything but polite to the police, you couldn't wish for a nicer bloke to pull over. But I'm not dropping myself into it.
Edited by Rusty Arches on Wednesday 18th August 14:49
Mr_annie_vxr said:
An admission of excess speed would hold zero weight in court in proving how fast you were going.
Whereas conversely it shows that you know you are in the wrong (legally) and some advice may be sufficient.Two traffic stops, exactly the same stretch of road, both doing 50 in a 30. One said he didn't know how fast he was going...maybe 40, tops? The other was up front and admitted he was speeding. The evidence was there to prosecute both, what they said had no legal ramifications.
Guess which one got a ticket and which one got some advice?
Druid said:
Not a biker so correct me if I'm wrong but you are more likely to reduce injury by wearing leathers? Therefore wearing jeans/shorts and a T shirt tells me you have little interest in your own well being should some idiot pull out in front of you, so how much thought do you have for your fellow road users? Just a thought!
Seen a few in A&E coming off their bikes, sans proper leathers. TCP stung like a b
h.(But seriously, quite a big difference in the extent of the resultant wounds - wear leathers is my advice).
fat tony said:
Tiggsy said:
No one is saying the clothing issue is the law...it's saying a T shirt over 30mph makes you seem retarded and less likely to treated by the cop as someone who will listen to his sensible advice and go on your way bearing it in mind.
So a non motorbike riding/owning copper can make a judgment on what clothing is correct for me to wear on my bike? I dont think so. And even if he/she is a rider its my freedom of choice, As for being retarded, i've seen car drivers with hoodie tops up, baseball caps pulled over their eyebrows and ear phones in, or does that not matter?. Mr E Driver said:
Top 10 tips to help your wallet and license if you get pulled...on a bike, but some will apply in any other vehicle 
1. Attitude: The three 'offs'
2. Your bike
3. Location
4. Don't argue
5. Bribery
6. Be honest
7. Clothing
8. Be apologetic
9. Slip away quietly
10. Don't do a runner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE81. Attitude: The three 'offs'
2. Your bike
3. Location
4. Don't argue
5. Bribery
6. Be honest
7. Clothing
8. Be apologetic
9. Slip away quietly
10. Don't do a runner
Edited by nelly1 on Thursday 19th August 10:49
7db said:
Rusty Arches said:
Probing questions such as "Do you have any idea how fast you were going"
Looks like an interview of someone suspected of an offence to me.g3org3y said:
Druid said:
Not a biker so correct me if I'm wrong but you are more likely to reduce injury by wearing leathers? Therefore wearing jeans/shorts and a T shirt tells me you have little interest in your own well being should some idiot pull out in front of you, so how much thought do you have for your fellow road users? Just a thought!
Seen a few in A&E coming off their bikes, sans proper leathers. TCP stung like a bh.(But seriously, quite a big difference in the extent of the resultant wounds - wear leathers is my advice).
youngsyr said:
7db said:
Rusty Arches said:
Probing questions such as "Do you have any idea how fast you were going"
Looks like an interview of someone suspected of an offence to me.Usually raises a wry smile I have found.
I have unfortunately been stopped a few times, one once in the last 8 years though, and only once won a prize, which was a much smaller one that they could have given me.
It seems to help if, when questioned, you can replay the last X miles, as appropriate, of your journey up to the point the lights came on behind you. All the better if you can pinpoint exactly where you and they first came to eat other’s attention. Personally I believe that it shows you weren't just blatting along blindly and were fully aware of your surroundings (even if you weren't aware that that Silver Ford you went past like it was standing still had a couple of gents in white shirts in it...)
Rs2oo said:
Personally I dont think the hoodie is that bad when you compare it to a Burhah wearing driver who could be anyone male or female. One such person pulled across in front of me when I was on my scooter in Hackney. All I saw were the eyes. There is no way I couldh have identified the driver and how he/she could see properly is beyond me. Their peripheral vision must be zero.
-ishEither worries me - the lack of peripheral vision and the impact on hearing are both dangerous, IMHO.
nelly1 said:
excellent! nice to see darnell turner/harry monroe in his previous life Rude-boy said:
youngsyr said:
7db said:
Rusty Arches said:
Probing questions such as "Do you have any idea how fast you were going"
Looks like an interview of someone suspected of an offence to me.Usually raises a wry smile I have found.
I have unfortunately been stopped a few times, one once in the last 8 years though, and only once won a prize, which was a much smaller one that they could have given me.
It seems to help if, when questioned, you can replay the last X miles, as appropriate, of your journey up to the point the lights came on behind you. All the better if you can pinpoint exactly where you and they first came to eat other’s attention. Personally I believe that it shows you weren't just blatting along blindly and were fully aware of your surroundings (even if you weren't aware that that Silver Ford you went past like it was standing still had a couple of gents in white shirts in it...)
The paranoia from some folk on here is laughable. Can anyone hand on heart say "The Police stopped me and the only reason I got a ticket/reported was because I admitted how fast I was going."? (or even know someone it has happened to)
No? That will because it doesn't happen. Do people really think that the Police pull someone over thinking "I hope he bursts to what speed he was doing or that's me screwed". Again no. In part, as others have already said, because an admission that you were exceeding the limit wouldn't be enough evidence.
When you are stopped for speeding there will either be sufficient evidence to report you or there won't. What you say when stopped can influence the outcome but it won't provide the evidence if it is not there already.
Cat
No? That will because it doesn't happen. Do people really think that the Police pull someone over thinking "I hope he bursts to what speed he was doing or that's me screwed". Again no. In part, as others have already said, because an admission that you were exceeding the limit wouldn't be enough evidence.
When you are stopped for speeding there will either be sufficient evidence to report you or there won't. What you say when stopped can influence the outcome but it won't provide the evidence if it is not there already.
Cat
Cat said:
The paranoia from some folk on here is laughable. Can anyone hand on heart say "The Police stopped me and the only reason I got a ticket/reported was because I admitted how fast I was going."? (or even know someone it has happened to)
No? That will because it doesn't happen. Do people really think that the Police pull someone over thinking "I hope he bursts to what speed he was doing or that's me screwed". Again no. In part, as others have already said, because an admission that you were exceeding the limit wouldn't be enough evidence.
When you are stopped for speeding there will either be sufficient evidence to report you or there won't. What you say when stopped can influence the outcome but it won't provide the evidence if it is not there already.
Cat
Are you saying that no traffic officer has ever pulled over a driver without compelling evidence that they've done what he is accusing them of?No? That will because it doesn't happen. Do people really think that the Police pull someone over thinking "I hope he bursts to what speed he was doing or that's me screwed". Again no. In part, as others have already said, because an admission that you were exceeding the limit wouldn't be enough evidence.
When you are stopped for speeding there will either be sufficient evidence to report you or there won't. What you say when stopped can influence the outcome but it won't provide the evidence if it is not there already.
Cat
Let's not forget that you can plead guilty to a charge and be convicted on that basis without there being sufficient third party evidence to convict you.
I would be very surprised if no officer has ever pressed on with an FPN, knowing full well that he didn't have the evidence to secure a conviction in court, on the assumption that the driver will cough to it and so it will never see a courtroom.
youngsyr said:
I would be very surprised if no officer has ever pressed on with an FPN, knowing full well that he didn't have the evidence to secure a conviction in court, on the assumption that the driver will cough to it and so it will never see a courtroom.
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