Asda HGV - how slow is too slow?
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Super Slo Mo said:
n A roads (single carriageways) until quite recently in England it's because it was the law.
It might still be law in Scotland.
ETA: HGV's are still subject to a 40mph speed limit on single carriage ways in Scotland, A9 excepted (I think).
I was referring to the last couple of years or so when the speed limit is 50 yet some trucks still drive at 40.It might still be law in Scotland.
ETA: HGV's are still subject to a 40mph speed limit on single carriage ways in Scotland, A9 excepted (I think).
Edited by Super Slo Mo on Monday 14th November 09:21
The law was changed to allow traffic to flow faster on A roads. Some drivers or haulage companies seem not to have got the memo
NinjaPower said:
I was referring to the last couple of years or so when the speed limit is 50 yet some trucks still drive at 40.
The law was changed to allow traffic to flow faster on A roads. Some drivers or haulage companies seem not to have got the memo
Oh ffs!!! It is perfectly acceptable for anyone, car, lorry or motorbike, to do 40 in a 50 limit. It wouldn't occur to me to get annoyed over that. The law was changed to allow traffic to flow faster on A roads. Some drivers or haulage companies seem not to have got the memo
TwigtheWonderkid said:
NinjaPower said:
I was referring to the last couple of years or so when the speed limit is 50 yet some trucks still drive at 40.
The law was changed to allow traffic to flow faster on A roads. Some drivers or haulage companies seem not to have got the memo
Oh ffs!!! It is perfectly acceptable for anyone, car, lorry or motorbike, to do 40 in a 50 limit. It wouldn't occur to me to get annoyed over that. The law was changed to allow traffic to flow faster on A roads. Some drivers or haulage companies seem not to have got the memo
king anti-social to drive 20% under the speed limit for no reason. Certainly when I passed my test you would fail for not making due progress for such behaviour.I've seen quite a few cars, usually Hyundais, driven by old biddies or Mums who sit 2 inches from the steering wheel, who are doing less than 60 on the motorway.
That is the problem I think. When Lorries do come up to these vehicles they move into L2 which can cause some tailbacks in some scenarios.
That is the problem I think. When Lorries do come up to these vehicles they move into L2 which can cause some tailbacks in some scenarios.
surveyor said:
It isn't. It's fking anti-social to drive 20% under the speed limit for no reason. Certainly when I passed my test you would fail for not making due progress for such behaviour.
You would also fail a test for tuning the radio whilst driving, having your elbow resting on the window, and numerous other things that we all do quite happily once you've passed your test.king anti-social to drive 20% under the speed limit for no reason. Certainly when I passed my test you would fail for not making due progress for such behaviour.Taking the test is to show that you can do certain skills, not that you must do them forever more. You need to be able to reverse around a corner to pass your test. But once past, if you don't like doing it and want to do it, you need never do it again.
Doing 40 in a 50 isn't antisocial at all. It's perfectly acceptable. If it causes you an issue, you should've left earlier!!!
NinjaPower said:
I was referring to the last couple of years or so when the speed limit is 50 yet some trucks still drive at 40.
The law was changed to allow traffic to flow faster on A roads. Some drivers or haulage companies seem not to have got the memo
It's been a long time since I drove a truck, but I encountered many situations where I was trying to do 40 mph (ish, usually 42-43) and got stuck behind some dodderer doing comfortably under that (35-36). There was no way I could get my vehicle past without a 1 mile clear straight, so we would end up with a huge tailback. The law was changed to allow traffic to flow faster on A roads. Some drivers or haulage companies seem not to have got the memo
No amount of encouragement when we approached laybys would get them to pull over either. There were a few occasions where it completely screwed up my schedule as I ran out of driving time and had to pull over for a break earlier in the journey than I'd intended, and thus missed a delivery slot. This was mostly around the Lake District area though.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Doing 40 in a 50 isn't antisocial at all. It's perfectly acceptable. If it causes you an issue, you should've left earlier!!!
Driving at 40 isn't antisocial. Causing long tailbacks and not allowing people to pass you is. In many US states they have a law whereby any slow vehicle with 5 or more other vehicles behind them is obliged to pull over to let them past. I'd like to see the same sort of law here.surveyor said:
It isn't. It's fking anti-social to drive 20% under the speed limit for no reason. Certainly when I passed my test you would fail for not making due progress for such behaviour.
Really? Driving a 30-40 ton articulated lorry brings with it a different perception of danger, on many single lane roads it may well be perceived to be dangerous to go any faster than 40 mph. Very different in a car.king anti-social to drive 20% under the speed limit for no reason. Certainly when I passed my test you would fail for not making due progress for such behaviour.KevinCamaroSS said:
surveyor said:
It isn't. It's fking anti-social to drive 20% under the speed limit for no reason. Certainly when I passed my test you would fail for not making due progress for such behaviour.
Really? Driving a 30-40 ton articulated lorry brings with it a different perception of danger, on many single lane roads it may well be perceived to be dangerous to go any faster than 40 mph. Very different in a car.king anti-social to drive 20% under the speed limit for no reason. Certainly when I passed my test you would fail for not making due progress for such behaviour.If it's a bad road then I don't think anyone will complain. It's the wide long A roads where traffic bunches up -usually heading to Norfolk.
NinjaPower said:
This 40mph HGV thing really fks me off.
Not particularly when they are on the motorway as it's easy to ignore them and pass them, but on A roads they cause mayhem for mile after mile as a slow moving roadblock which eventually drivers get fed up with and start attempting Kamakazi overtakes.
It's fine when they do 50 as people look at their slightly over-reading speedos and think "he's doing almost 60, so that's fine I'll just carry on driving behind him"
But at 40... the anger and overtaking starts.
And it's very often a fking ASDA truck.
My understanding is that they do it mostly for own fuel consumption reasons, and therefore don't give a toss about holding up ordinary motorists.
Indeed, they're a complete PITA on the A69 sticking to 40 ks me off.Not particularly when they are on the motorway as it's easy to ignore them and pass them, but on A roads they cause mayhem for mile after mile as a slow moving roadblock which eventually drivers get fed up with and start attempting Kamakazi overtakes.
It's fine when they do 50 as people look at their slightly over-reading speedos and think "he's doing almost 60, so that's fine I'll just carry on driving behind him"
But at 40... the anger and overtaking starts.
And it's very often a f
king ASDA truck.My understanding is that they do it mostly for own fuel consumption reasons, and therefore don't give a toss about holding up ordinary motorists.
Some of you are moaning about speeds which supermarket trucks are doing on single carriageways, it's for various reasons, 99.9% of the time a supermarket driver is never in a hurry, the job is not pressured as supermarket own transport isn't run for profit, it's a supply chain, so the driver is hardly ever pushed by his transport office to get a move on.
It's also an image thing as no supermarket wants it's trucks thundering through towns and villages on the speed limit, people who complain to a supermarket about the low speeds will be told it's partly a safety issue as no supermarket wants its vehicles involved in accidents as that is also bad for the company image.
Most supermarket goods are transported on roll cages, 45 of these on a standard trailer, although they are secured, they will still move, if they gain a momentum which can be caused by high speed and bends and cambers in the road then the chances of rolling the truck increase.
Lastly the 50mph speed limit is exactly that, a limit, not a target.
It's also an image thing as no supermarket wants it's trucks thundering through towns and villages on the speed limit, people who complain to a supermarket about the low speeds will be told it's partly a safety issue as no supermarket wants its vehicles involved in accidents as that is also bad for the company image.
Most supermarket goods are transported on roll cages, 45 of these on a standard trailer, although they are secured, they will still move, if they gain a momentum which can be caused by high speed and bends and cambers in the road then the chances of rolling the truck increase.
Lastly the 50mph speed limit is exactly that, a limit, not a target.
a4cabrio said:
Some of you are moaning about speeds which supermarket trucks are doing on single carriageways, it's for various reasons, 99.9% of the time a supermarket driver is never in a hurry, the job is not pressured as supermarket own transport isn't run for profit, it's a supply chain, so the driver is hardly ever pushed by his transport office to get a move on.
It's also an image thing as no supermarket wants it's trucks thundering through towns and villages on the speed limit, people who complain to a supermarket about the low speeds will be told it's partly a safety issue as no supermarket wants its vehicles involved in accidents as that is also bad for the company image.
Most supermarket goods are transported on roll cages, 45 of these on a standard trailer, although they are secured, they will still move, if they gain a momentum which can be caused by high speed and bends and cambers in the road then the chances of rolling the truck increase.
Lastly the 50mph speed limit is exactly that, a limit, not a target.
Ah yes, those troublesome roll cages. That's what it is! Such a dangerous load that requires a really careful hand and stay below 40 mph It's also an image thing as no supermarket wants it's trucks thundering through towns and villages on the speed limit, people who complain to a supermarket about the low speeds will be told it's partly a safety issue as no supermarket wants its vehicles involved in accidents as that is also bad for the company image.
Most supermarket goods are transported on roll cages, 45 of these on a standard trailer, although they are secured, they will still move, if they gain a momentum which can be caused by high speed and bends and cambers in the road then the chances of rolling the truck increase.
Lastly the 50mph speed limit is exactly that, a limit, not a target.
. So much s
t spouted in this thread it's unreal.a4cabrio said:
Some of you are moaning about speeds which supermarket trucks are doing on single carriageways, it's for various reasons, 99.9% of the time a supermarket driver is never in a hurry, the job is not pressured as supermarket own transport isn't run for profit, it's a supply chain, so the driver is hardly ever pushed by his transport office to get a move on.
In that case, they should have no problem with pulling over at every opportunity to let faster traffic pass.Pete317 said:
vonhosen said:
40mph will potentially make for an easier legal overtake than 50 will.
There are so few places available for overtaking that most of the time you end up sitting behind a long queue of traffic behind them at 40 for mile after endless mile.vonhosen said:
Pete317 said:
vonhosen said:
40mph will potentially make for an easier legal overtake than 50 will.
There are so few places available for overtaking that most of the time you end up sitting behind a long queue of traffic behind them at 40 for mile after endless mile.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff