woman killed in rta with hired R8
Discussion
over_the_hill said:
Main story aside what type of people pay £600 a day (or £1400 for a weekend) to hire a car.
That is a serious amount of cash and well in excess of a weeks take-home for the vast majority. (I do of course realise that for most PH'ers it's just pocket change)
Anyone that does have that type of cash to chuck around probably wouldn't need the hire because they would already have something similar or could probably blag a free test drive for a day or so as an already established customer.
To be fair the love of cars is not defined by income so there are an awful lot of people in the UK who are very pasionate about cars but will never earn enough to own one so saving up for a weekend experience in one is a very big thing. In many ways I would say it was a more sensible way to spunk some hard earned than a week in Ayanappa banging the same kind of pigs you'd be dragging out of the local Whetherspoons back home. I would also argue that it probably shows a more prudent mindset than the typical bloke who cripples himself with crappy debt to buy somethign half arsed.That is a serious amount of cash and well in excess of a weeks take-home for the vast majority. (I do of course realise that for most PH'ers it's just pocket change)
Anyone that does have that type of cash to chuck around probably wouldn't need the hire because they would already have something similar or could probably blag a free test drive for a day or so as an already established customer.
I once went to Birmingham to buy a car with a friend.
Upon getting there the car had been moted by the owners uncle only a day before. I found numerous faults with car which were mot failures and clearly not just happened in the last 24 hrs. The owner produced a v5 not in her name and it turned out to be the previous keeper and she just hadn't bothered changing it in two years of ownership. They had a big house with some nice cars and looked to have money and generally didnt seem to have any respect for the legislation in this country covering car ownership. Last time I went to Birmingham lucky.
I expect it was self employed (non tax paying) types who deal in cash for mobile phones and accessories and they have the type of cash needed to hire a car like this, but have little respect for our laws.
Upon getting there the car had been moted by the owners uncle only a day before. I found numerous faults with car which were mot failures and clearly not just happened in the last 24 hrs. The owner produced a v5 not in her name and it turned out to be the previous keeper and she just hadn't bothered changing it in two years of ownership. They had a big house with some nice cars and looked to have money and generally didnt seem to have any respect for the legislation in this country covering car ownership. Last time I went to Birmingham lucky.
I expect it was self employed (non tax paying) types who deal in cash for mobile phones and accessories and they have the type of cash needed to hire a car like this, but have little respect for our laws.
Not unusual.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the f
k they are................
fking pricks of the highest order.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the f
k they are................f
king pricks of the highest order.Edited by RSoovy4 on Wednesday 4th September 11:06
RSoovy4 said:
Not unusual.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars. It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car.
Normally he charges around £200 cash innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the fk they are................
fking pricks of the highest order.
Didn't know you've now moved out Soov. Sorry to see you go. I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars. It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car.
Normally he charges around £200 cash innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the f
k they are................f
king pricks of the highest order.The description is spot on though. Given that what is going on is so transparently obvious, even to thickies like me, I remain astonished that something isn't done about it. The fine, upstanding guy who smashed up the R8 (original topic of this thread) was likely to be in this category and that's an accident that could have been prevented.
f
king pricks - precisely. Oli.
zcacogp said:
RSoovy4 said:
Not unusual.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars. It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car.
Normally he charges around £200 cash innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the fk they are................
fking pricks of the highest order.
Didn't know you've now moved out Soov. Sorry to see you go. I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars. It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car.
Normally he charges around £200 cash innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the f
k they are................f
king pricks of the highest order.The description is spot on though. Given that what is going on is so transparently obvious, even to thickies like me, I remain astonished that something isn't done about it. The fine, upstanding guy who smashed up the R8 (original topic of this thread) was likely to be in this category and that's an accident that could have been prevented.
f
king pricks - precisely. Oli.
I'm glad I'm out.
Edited by RSoovy4 on Wednesday 4th September 11:20
RedSpike66 said:
Phil Dicky said:
Starfighter said:
So, the charge list...
Driver
Excess speed - Physical evidence from the impact damage.
Damgerous / Careless / WoDCA.
Failure to stop (doing a runner).
Failure to provide details at the road side.
TWOC / Agrivated Vehicle taking.
Without insurance.
Renter
Causing or permitting no insurnce by allowing the drive to take the wheel.
Anything else?
Renter will just claim vehicle taken without his knowledgeDriver
Excess speed - Physical evidence from the impact damage.
Damgerous / Careless / WoDCA.
Failure to stop (doing a runner).
Failure to provide details at the road side.
TWOC / Agrivated Vehicle taking.
Without insurance.
Renter
Causing or permitting no insurnce by allowing the drive to take the wheel.
Anything else?
RSoovy4 said:
From what I hear there's been trouble recently at that car park - the local Serbian car wash blokes (who are very decent fellows as far as I have experienced having given some of them some legal advice about visa and the like in exchnage for washing the RS) have been getting fed up with it, and have given a few of the yoofs and their uncles a bit of a warning to do it somewhere else or get a hiding from some big lads with civil war experience.
Now that's a scrap I'd like to see. And I'd buy the Serbian guys a pint or two afterwards. Oli.
RSoovy4 said:
Not unusual.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the fk they are................
fking pricks of the highest order.
Sounds like absolute sI've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the f
k they are................f
king pricks of the highest order.Edited by RSoovy4 on Wednesday 4th September 11:06
te to me...KFC said:
RSoovy4 said:
Not unusual.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the fk they are................
fking pricks of the highest order.
Sounds like absolute sI've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the f
k they are................f
king pricks of the highest order.Edited by RSoovy4 on Wednesday 4th September 11:06
te to me...RSoovy4 said:
KFC said:
RSoovy4 said:
Not unusual.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the fk they are................
fking pricks of the highest order.
Sounds like absolute sI've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the f
k they are................f
king pricks of the highest order.Edited by RSoovy4 on Wednesday 4th September 11:06
te to me...
Interesting idea. Given that I think such scum make up a fair proportion of the clientèle of the hire companies, it isn't in their interests to put a stop to the practices. However, given that the hire companies often don't own the cars in question - they hire them from the owners and sub-hire them to their own clients - it would be shockingly irresponsible if they were knowingly allowing this to happen.
Oli.
Oli.
Six year sentance
Video of crash here released by west miss police, travelling over 70mph in a 30 ...utter cock socket for that but even more so for leaving the scene
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=...
Police statement here
We have released dramatic CCTV footage of a high speed crash, in which a woman lost her life, to show the consequences of speeding.
Saqib Hussain was sentenced to six years in prison yesterday for causing Noreen Ryan's death after the Audi R8 Spyder he was driving at 76mph crashed into the car Ms Ryan was travelling in, while in a thirty zone.
The 25-year-old was speeding along Shaftmoor Lane in Acocks Green at around 11.30pm on 26 August when he ploughed into the Ford Fiesta, in which Ms Ryan was the front seat passenger, as it pulled out of Reddings Lane.
Sadly, the impact on the Fiesta was so great that Ms Ryan received multiple injuries and despite the best efforts of the emergency services, she was pronounced dead on arrival at hospital.
Ms Ryan's sister Mary was the driver of the Fiesta and was trapped in her seat, suffering from serious injuries to her back and pelvis.
When officers arrived at the scene, the Audi was still there but nobody was with it. Witnesses recalled seeing two men leave the car and get inside a Mercedes, which arrived shortly after the crash, before driving off.
Clearly this was a serious collision and officers were also concerned about the welfare of the occupants of the Audi, so local hospitals were made aware of what had happened.
Less than half an hour after the crash, we got a call from Solihull Hospital. Hussain had gone there to drop off his passenger in the Audi, who had suffered a nasty facial injury in the collision. We immediately went to the hospital however, Hussain had already left and his friend maintained he had received his injuries in an assault.
At around 3am the next day, Hussain finally handed himself in at Stechford Police Station and was subsequently arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving.
He was later charged with the offence and also two counts of causing serious injury by dangerous driving, causing death by driving a vehicle while uninsured and failing to stop at the scene of a collision.
Hussain of Alexander Road, Acocks Green, pleaded guilty to all the offences and was handed a six year prison sentence at Birmingham Crown Court yesterday.
Anyone who is tempted to put their foot down consider the consequences before doing so. Could you live with yourself if you killed someone and would your loved ones cope if you were sent to prison? It simply isn't worth the risk.
To find out more about the work of our Collision Investigation Unit and how traffic officers aim to keep people safe on our roads
Video of crash here released by west miss police, travelling over 70mph in a 30 ...utter cock socket for that but even more so for leaving the scene
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=...
Police statement here
We have released dramatic CCTV footage of a high speed crash, in which a woman lost her life, to show the consequences of speeding.
Saqib Hussain was sentenced to six years in prison yesterday for causing Noreen Ryan's death after the Audi R8 Spyder he was driving at 76mph crashed into the car Ms Ryan was travelling in, while in a thirty zone.
The 25-year-old was speeding along Shaftmoor Lane in Acocks Green at around 11.30pm on 26 August when he ploughed into the Ford Fiesta, in which Ms Ryan was the front seat passenger, as it pulled out of Reddings Lane.
Sadly, the impact on the Fiesta was so great that Ms Ryan received multiple injuries and despite the best efforts of the emergency services, she was pronounced dead on arrival at hospital.
Ms Ryan's sister Mary was the driver of the Fiesta and was trapped in her seat, suffering from serious injuries to her back and pelvis.
When officers arrived at the scene, the Audi was still there but nobody was with it. Witnesses recalled seeing two men leave the car and get inside a Mercedes, which arrived shortly after the crash, before driving off.
Clearly this was a serious collision and officers were also concerned about the welfare of the occupants of the Audi, so local hospitals were made aware of what had happened.
Less than half an hour after the crash, we got a call from Solihull Hospital. Hussain had gone there to drop off his passenger in the Audi, who had suffered a nasty facial injury in the collision. We immediately went to the hospital however, Hussain had already left and his friend maintained he had received his injuries in an assault.
At around 3am the next day, Hussain finally handed himself in at Stechford Police Station and was subsequently arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving.
He was later charged with the offence and also two counts of causing serious injury by dangerous driving, causing death by driving a vehicle while uninsured and failing to stop at the scene of a collision.
Hussain of Alexander Road, Acocks Green, pleaded guilty to all the offences and was handed a six year prison sentence at Birmingham Crown Court yesterday.
Anyone who is tempted to put their foot down consider the consequences before doing so. Could you live with yourself if you killed someone and would your loved ones cope if you were sent to prison? It simply isn't worth the risk.
To find out more about the work of our Collision Investigation Unit and how traffic officers aim to keep people safe on our roads
Edited by rigga on Tuesday 16th September 16:20
Well well. Saqib Hussain, eh? Who'd have thunk the perp had a name like that? I wonder if he was at this wedding here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igIWppUuKo&fea...
(Taken from this thread.)
I also wonder what happened to the guy who originally hired the car, and who sub-hired it to Hussain. (And what checks were done on the car hire company).
Oli.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igIWppUuKo&fea...
(Taken from this thread.)
I also wonder what happened to the guy who originally hired the car, and who sub-hired it to Hussain. (And what checks were done on the car hire company).
Oli.
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