Big guy on train could face charges
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The guy who helped get the swearing passenger off the train
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16179152
Did he go to far?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16177959
Heres the guy who filmed it
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16173835
the student keeps saying hes paid
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16179152
Did he go to far?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16177959
Heres the guy who filmed it
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16173835
the student keeps saying hes paid
saaby93 said:
The guy who helped get the swearing passenger off the train
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16179152
Did he go to far?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16177959
Heres the guy who filmed it
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16173835
the student keeps saying hes paid
He was trespassing when told by the ticket inspector to get off, whether he had a ticket or not. If he refuses to get off then reasonable proportionate force can be used to eject him. The more he struggles the more force can be used.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16179152
Did he go to far?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16177959
Heres the guy who filmed it
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16173835
the student keeps saying hes paid
He had two single tickets!
So why didn't he tell the conductor that? (he just keeps saying he's paid)
Why didn't he show the conductor both tickets? (Conductor, keeps showing him that the ticket he has is for the journey going the other way)
He tried his luck, got called on it and lost. He's now just enjoying/milking his 15 minutes of fame.
So why didn't he tell the conductor that? (he just keeps saying he's paid)
Why didn't he show the conductor both tickets? (Conductor, keeps showing him that the ticket he has is for the journey going the other way)
He tried his luck, got called on it and lost. He's now just enjoying/milking his 15 minutes of fame.
KrazyIvan said:
He's now just enjoying/milking his 15 minutes of fame.
Let's hope he enjoys it. Rail staff will know him on sight from now on and will challenge him every journey he makes. If he gets his face out there more, maybe people will start challenging him in shops and bars as well. I'd also like to see his chances at interview once he's finished his 'course'...KrazyIvan said:
He had two single tickets!
So why didn't he tell the conductor that? (he just keeps saying he's paid)
Why didn't he show the conductor both tickets? (Conductor, keeps showing him that the ticket he has is for the journey going the other way)
He tried his luck, got called on it and lost. He's now just enjoying/milking his 15 minutes of fame.
Thanks for explaining. Did he buy two single tickets for the same direction?So why didn't he tell the conductor that? (he just keeps saying he's paid)
Why didn't he show the conductor both tickets? (Conductor, keeps showing him that the ticket he has is for the journey going the other way)
He tried his luck, got called on it and lost. He's now just enjoying/milking his 15 minutes of fame.
We weren't there and all we have to go on are second or third-hand reports from a few people who were and a short, edited badly recorded video clip.
If they had waited for the Police to sort this out, they would still be sitting there in the train now. The young lad seems to have lots of reasons now why he was not in the wrong, but at the time he was belligerent and rude even judging just from the short clip we've all seen.
A 'clip 'round the ear' mentality would sort out a lot of what's wrong in this country at the moment so I don't blame the Big Man for doing what he did, but now the media are on his back, the poor guy is probably going to wish he hadn't got on that train in the first place.
The bottom line is, if you want a quiet life just sit in a corner and don't say or do anything.
If they had waited for the Police to sort this out, they would still be sitting there in the train now. The young lad seems to have lots of reasons now why he was not in the wrong, but at the time he was belligerent and rude even judging just from the short clip we've all seen.
A 'clip 'round the ear' mentality would sort out a lot of what's wrong in this country at the moment so I don't blame the Big Man for doing what he did, but now the media are on his back, the poor guy is probably going to wish he hadn't got on that train in the first place.
The bottom line is, if you want a quiet life just sit in a corner and don't say or do anything.
saaby93 said:
KrazyIvan said:
He had two single tickets!
So why didn't he tell the conductor that? (he just keeps saying he's paid)
Why didn't he show the conductor both tickets? (Conductor, keeps showing him that the ticket he has is for the journey going the other way)
He tried his luck, got called on it and lost. He's now just enjoying/milking his 15 minutes of fame.
Thanks for explaining. Did he buy two single tickets for the same direction?So why didn't he tell the conductor that? (he just keeps saying he's paid)
Why didn't he show the conductor both tickets? (Conductor, keeps showing him that the ticket he has is for the journey going the other way)
He tried his luck, got called on it and lost. He's now just enjoying/milking his 15 minutes of fame.
vonhosen said:
Even if he had a valid ticket, if he's told to leave he's got to.
definitely toldhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16179152
Out of a whole train only one guy prepared to help out
EU_Foreigner said:
Is there a legal implication as the "big man" asked the conductor if he should remove the bloke ...
He clearly asked the 'official' who was physically incapable to remove the bloke if he could move him on his behalf. The conductor said yes and the bigman used reasonable force to remove him and keep him from re-entering the carriage. All the evidence to let the bigman go.Mojooo said:
The only one that will get stuffed is the old codger - he better hope the kid didnt actually have a valid ticket
If the kid had 2 singles bought in error then I do feel somewhat sorry for him
The kid was almost certainly being a tt though soprob deserved what he got.
Your passage is conditional even if you do have a valid ticket. Be abusive etc & the service can be withdrawn & you ejected even if you've paid. Bit like someone buying a cinema ticket & then ruining the performance for everyone else, just because they've bought a ticket doesn't mean they can't be ejected. If the kid had 2 singles bought in error then I do feel somewhat sorry for him
The kid was almost certainly being a tt though soprob deserved what he got.
lad now confirming he had wrong ticket
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-cent...
big guy still keeping head down
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-cent...
big guy still keeping head down
Jujuuk68 said:
Heh. Some of the guy's interests are "Top 10 Ways 2 Become A Female Playa, stroking furry walls after smoking a jeffrey, Coming home drunk and then turning into Gordon Ramsay"Hope big man doesn't get any grief from the rozzers for being a good citizen.
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