Does a prop shaft count as a suspension component

Does a prop shaft count as a suspension component

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battered

4,088 posts

148 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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No. Transmission. It transmits the power.

Suspension is about controlling the car as it bounces about. So hubs don't count as suspension because they are just about allowing the wheels to turn.

BertBert

19,116 posts

212 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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battered said:
No. Transmission. It transmits the power.

Suspension is about controlling the car as it bounces about. So hubs don't count as suspension because they are just about allowing the wheels to turn.
not according to Variomatics' definition

Monty Python

4,812 posts

198 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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If you look on ECP the hub and driveshaft come under "transmission parts".

Slidingpillar

761 posts

137 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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I'd like to think DVLA will look at the bigger picture. The OP has never said what car. If the real point is that the correct hub is pretty much the same as the replacement, then I'd hope neither they nor the insurance company will care.

But if in the course of a hub swap, the suspension method changes, then they would certainly count it as such. Not knowing the car though, can't say.

Quite a few Lotuses use the driveshaft as an upper suspension link, but if you fit a modern CV type to miss out the rubber do-nuts you probably should tell the insurance company, but again, I'd be surprised if any loading was applied. I'd not even think of telling DVLA rightly or wrongly.

MaxRothery

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201 posts

113 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Slidingpillar said:
I'd like to think DVLA will look at the bigger picture. The OP has never said what car. If the real point is that the correct hub is pretty much the same as the replacement, then I'd hope neither they nor the insurance company will care.

But if in the course of a hub swap, the suspension method changes, then they would certainly count it as such. Not knowing the car though, can't say.

Quite a few Lotuses use the driveshaft as an upper suspension link, but if you fit a modern CV type to miss out the rubber do-nuts you probably should tell the insurance company, but again, I'd be surprised if any loading was applied. I'd not even think of telling DVLA rightly or wrongly.
If the hubs were to change, the suspension would be left in altered, it would have the exact same layout and angles, the only thing that's different is the hole the spindle sits in. On the later car, it's tapered and small to hold the rear bearing, on the earlier type, it's wider to accommodate the driveshaft

4rephill

5,042 posts

179 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Have you thought of contacting the relevant DVLA department and asking them about this issue? - That's the first thing I'd be doing rather than asking a group of well meaning strangers to hazard a guess about it!

Just a thought!

drdel

431 posts

129 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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It depends on the suspension design. On some (mainly older) cars the rear driveshaft also functioned as one of the suspension links (E-type, Imp some Triumph models etc. etc.

So a driveshaft can be both a suspension link and a transmission component !!

If your design causes the driveshaft to take/control wheel movement then DVLA could be right.

Fastpedeller

3,886 posts

147 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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What DVLA consider it to be will depend on who makes the decision, which could also change depending on the day or maybe the wind direction? Who knows for certain, but what ever they consider their answer will (in their eyes) be correct and not open to negotiation!