Headlight Dipping

[mojocvh]

My old V70 has 2 H4's for each headlight, stuck those Phillips vision plus things in there, wow dipped beam performance is very very good indeed now.

Mojo.

[bluepolarbear]

xiphias said:

AJLintern said: xiphias said: I can't turn the fog lights on unless main beams are on full beams, not even if they're only dipped! Are you sure they're not driving lights? They only come on with main beam - no problem with those, as long as you remember to dip your lights! A) Whats the difference? B) Labelled as foggies in the manual.

One you use in fog the other when it's dark. Driving lights are normally wired to come on when you select high beam. Front fogs are as about as useful as having a lighted candle at the front of the car whereas driving lights will turn night into day.

[bluepolarbear]

jazzyjeff said:

The difference is its illegal to drive with fog lights on except when there's dense fog (well that's what Plod told me when he stopped me a few years ago, despite the numpty not realising they were driving lamps and not accepting my assurance as such). JJ

They are correct - less than 100m. It is also illegal to have the front fogs on without the back fogs, illegal to dazzle with them, and illegal to leave them on.

I'm sure a BiB will correct me but I think that driving lights and fog lights have different E markings which allow the BiB to tell what they are.

[zumbruk]

bigdods said:

Many moons ago I had a car (cant remember which one now) which had a F and R printed on the dashboard light that came on when the fogs were turned on. Very good but I guess the letters interfered with the designer aesthetics ....

Not using words saves the cost and inconvenience of (i) having the words translated & (ii) making a different dashboard for each different language market. That's why 'Merkin cars have words on everything - 'cos they don't GAS.

[zumbruk]

eccles said:

i might be being a bit pedantic, but for ages i've thought there should be some kind of test when you buy a new car, to prove you know what knob does what, and what that 'funny' light on the dash is for.

I was sitting in a traffic jam once behind some numpty with his rear fogs on, even though it wasn't foggy. After a while, I got out and tapped on his window and asked him to switch them off. His reply was "This car doesn't have rear fogs." "Yes, it does", I replied, pointing at the illuminated switch on his dashboard. He pushed it and the lights went out. "I wondered what that did", he said.

Sigh.

[just_william]

As a concessus or opinion.... Which would public rather??? Folks fines for doing 80mph in a 70mph limit or folks with fog lights on when not foggy? Know which way I'd vote. The annoying one

[Flat in Fifth]

bluepolarbear said:

It is also illegal to have the front fogs on without the back fogs,

You might like to rephrase and qualify that, bpb?

Front fogs on without rear fogs? Quite in order. Some vehicle manufacturers limit your switching options but that is their choice. For example you could be in visibility <100m where you feel it is appropriate and helpful to have front fogs on, yet a vehicle behind you would be dazzled by your rear fogs. Therefore it is good practice to turn rears off, yet leave fronts on. Just one example.

[eccles]

zumbruk said:

eccles said: i might be being a bit pedantic, but for ages i've thought there should be some kind of test when you buy a new car, to prove you know what knob does what, and what that 'funny' light on the dash is for. I was sitting in a traffic jam once behind some numpty with his rear fogs on, even though it wasn't foggy. After a while, I got out and tapped on his window and asked him to switch them off. His reply was "This car doesn't have rear fogs." "Yes, it does", I replied, pointing at the illuminated switch on his dashboard. He pushed it and the lights went out. "I wondered what that did", he said. Sigh.

i had a similar experience with one our storemen in work, he was driving along with his rear fogs on, when i pointed this out to him at work, he said he wondered why his rear window wasn't clearing!

[bluepolarbear]

Flat in Fifth said:

bluepolarbear said: It is also illegal to have the front fogs on without the back fogs, You might like to rephrase and qualify that, bpb? Front fogs on without rear fogs? Quite in order. Some vehicle manufacturers limit your switching options but that is their choice. For example you could be in visibility <100m where you feel it is appropriate and helpful to have front fogs on, yet a vehicle behind you would be dazzled by your rear fogs. Therefore it is good practice to turn rears off, yet leave fronts on. Just one example.

Fair point thought there was some law behind it. Don't have front fogs on the current I've always rated just behind the beetle flower holder in the usefulness stakes.

[pbsaxman]

One of the good ideas on the Scooby. When you turn off the engine the front and rear fogs switch off automatically. Not possible to leave them on. I know that wouldn't stop all the numpties but it would shave the numbers a bit!!

[lord summerisle]

same in my cit c4...

tho in that you cant turn the rears on without first turning on the fronts! grr daft froggies

[mr_p]

lord summerisle said:

same in my cit c4... tho in that you cant turn the rears on without first turning on the fronts! grr daft froggies

And americans, my focus can only have the rear one on if the fronts are too.