Clamping of untaxed cars
Discussion
But this does work...
if their is a good chance of getting caught, they get p****** of buying/wasting money on clapped out cars,
hey repeat offenders, give them a big fine, if that doesn't work send the bailiffs around...
few people may be inconvieniencd, but many thousands chavs off the road...
if you can suggest a better way, i'd be for it..
This seems to have a good chance of working.
I've owned dozens of cars, and HAVE NEVER had an invalid tax disc, plus if they link it to the database, they will know you've paid, and not clamp you... if your objection is 'innocent' get caught, i'd hope part of this would be making it EASIER to get a tax disc, declare sorn, etc would that stop the critiscm.
How else to get the scrotes off the roads?
saying this is just being silly:
'Why not clamp every car you see? That way you'll be SURE to catch the scrotes (along with everyone else, but why not?)'
is that really a helpful/rational suggestion...
Are you against apnr, this really works, scrotes don't like it, this isjust a logical extension.
B
if their is a good chance of getting caught, they get p****** of buying/wasting money on clapped out cars,
hey repeat offenders, give them a big fine, if that doesn't work send the bailiffs around...
few people may be inconvieniencd, but many thousands chavs off the road...
if you can suggest a better way, i'd be for it..
This seems to have a good chance of working.
I've owned dozens of cars, and HAVE NEVER had an invalid tax disc, plus if they link it to the database, they will know you've paid, and not clamp you... if your objection is 'innocent' get caught, i'd hope part of this would be making it EASIER to get a tax disc, declare sorn, etc would that stop the critiscm.
How else to get the scrotes off the roads?
saying this is just being silly:
'Why not clamp every car you see? That way you'll be SURE to catch the scrotes (along with everyone else, but why not?)'
is that really a helpful/rational suggestion...
Are you against apnr, this really works, scrotes don't like it, this isjust a logical extension.
B
Edited by bjwoods on Friday 23 June 22:24
Rob-C said:
It's true to say that a lot of dangerous drivers have no licence, insurance and tax, but it is flawed logic to assume that an expired tax disc automatically means the driver is dangerous.
Crucially, the dangerous, unlicensed, uninsured, untaxed, chavvy ones will not be deterred in the slightest - they'll simply buy another stolen, ringed, written off, cloned car for a lot less than you and I pay for a tax disc.
Crucially, the dangerous, unlicensed, uninsured, untaxed, chavvy ones will not be deterred in the slightest - they'll simply buy another stolen, ringed, written off, cloned car for a lot less than you and I pay for a tax disc.
Finally someone who understands what I`m getting at!!
bjwoods said:
How else to get the scrotes off the roads?
By making it far easier to see instantly which vehicles are mot`d and insured (you`d agree that this is the main/more serious problem?)
The gov`t is fond of getting joe public to "shop" offenders"? How does joe public know which cars on his street are insured and mot`d ?? Not by an out of date tax disc (although I will conceed that this may be an indicator
As I mentioned earlier, what about visible discs for the windscreen or gov`t issued number plates?
How about a chip in the car which holds all the data? If we wnt to get silly (and this gov`t often does), we could have petrol pumps which were not activated unless a chip was nearby. How about putting the chip by the petrol flap? Agreed it`s far fetched, but a good way of ensuring that only 100% legal vehicles have access to fuel!
towman said:
Rob-C said:
It's true to say that a lot of dangerous drivers have no licence, insurance and tax, but it is flawed logic to assume that an expired tax disc automatically means the driver is dangerous.
Crucially, the dangerous, unlicensed, uninsured, untaxed, chavvy ones will not be deterred in the slightest - they'll simply buy another stolen, ringed, written off, cloned car for a lot less than you and I pay for a tax disc.
Crucially, the dangerous, unlicensed, uninsured, untaxed, chavvy ones will not be deterred in the slightest - they'll simply buy another stolen, ringed, written off, cloned car for a lot less than you and I pay for a tax disc.
Finally someone who understands what I`m getting at!!
it is NOT flawed logic..
The statitistics show that the majority of untaxed cars (AND I'M TALKING over A MONTH OUT 0F DATE HERE) WOULD ALSO INDICATE the car/driver is also uninsured, and the very same statistics show, that these car are proportionately 10 times more likely to, have accidents, etc,etc...
I don't see why this is any difference to having an insurance disc..
ie can't get a new tax disc, if youhaven't got insurance.
so if you check tax discs, good chance not insured..
vs check insurance discs, etc,etc,etc
Personally i'd love tax discs to be abolished, but in the mean time, this seems aquick easy way to get dodgy cars /drivers of the road.
PLEASE note - I'm talking discs OVER a month out of date.
as i'm sure the police on here will confirm, most cars spotted with discs way out of date, turn out to be uninsured..
B
bjwoods said:
PLEASE note - I'm talking discs OVER a month out of date.
They're off again!
Do really believe these contracted-out, incentivised, private sector clamping companies apply a one >month discretion period on overdue tax discs? Or do you believe they have targets to meet and profits to make?
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