Bath - "keen cyclist" councillor forcing 20mph limits
Bath - "keen cyclist" councillor forcing 20mph limits
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Mon Ami Mate

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6,589 posts

296 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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I invite the people of PH to follow this link and add to this debate.

Bath gained a Lib Dem council last year, by a factor of one councillor.

They have given the transport portfolio to a man who describes himself as a "keen cyclist", who has never held a driving licence. He is now setting about turning the whole place into one big pedestrianised cycle track, and is forcing motorised transport out of the city.

His latest wheeze is to employ a blanket 20mph limit throughout the entire city, including major arteries and trunk roads.

I'm sure some PHers could add sensibly to the debate...

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/impose-20mph-speed-lim...

magpie215

5,008 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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It is happening everywhere.

Lancashire county council has announced it intends to have 20MPH limits in place on all the counties residential roads by 2013.

chris182

4,236 posts

181 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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What a fantastically stupid idea. Oh well, I finish uni in Bath in a few months and will be moving away so hopefully I'll miss this particular bit of genius.

miniman

29,821 posts

290 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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The only places it could practicably be enforced are the major streets and the "ring" road (such as it is). Anyone managing >20 on those roads deserves a medal as they are normally close to gridlock. There are plenty of other routes into the city that aren't jammed with traffic.

BMWBen

4,906 posts

229 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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Mon Ami Mate said:
I invite the people of PH to follow this link and add to this debate.

Bath gained a Lib Dem council last year, by a factor of one councillor.

They have given the transport portfolio to a man who describes himself as a "keen cyclist", who has never held a driving licence. He is now setting about turning the whole place into one big pedestrianised cycle track, and is forcing motorised transport out of the city.

His latest wheeze is to employ a blanket 20mph limit throughout the entire city, including major arteries and trunk roads.

I'm sure some PHers could add sensibly to the debate...

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/impose-20mph-speed-lim...
He should describe himself as a "fat and slow" cyclist if he thinks 20mph is adequate laugh

Mon Ami Mate

Original Poster:

6,589 posts

296 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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BMWBen said:
He should describe himself as a "fat and slow" cyclist if he thinks 20mph is adequate laugh
That's the point, he demands the limit for motorised transport. There is no suggestion that the limit would be applied to cyclists.

DSM2

3,624 posts

228 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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BMWBen said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
I invite the people of PH to follow this link and add to this debate.

Bath gained a Lib Dem council last year, by a factor of one councillor.

They have given the transport portfolio to a man who describes himself as a "keen cyclist", who has never held a driving licence. He is now setting about turning the whole place into one big pedestrianised cycle track, and is forcing motorised transport out of the city.

His latest wheeze is to employ a blanket 20mph limit throughout the entire city, including major arteries and trunk roads.

I'm sure some PHers could add sensibly to the debate...

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/impose-20mph-speed-lim...
He should describe himself as a "fat and slow" cyclist if he thinks 20mph is adequate laugh
He should describe himself as corrupt if he puts such self serving changes through.

ExChrispy Porker

17,668 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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Most of the traffic in central Bath travels at walking pace anyway. 20 mph would be an improvement.

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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ExChrispy Porker said:
Most of the traffic in central Bath travels at walking pace anyway. 20 mph would be an improvement.
Certainly would!

Honk

2,005 posts

231 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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Corrupt fker....

LongQ

13,864 posts

261 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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How can anyone possibly complain?

This is the British form of democracy in action. I'm sure the people of Bath are more than able to make up their collective mind about the benefits of the scheme and in a few years they will get an option to comment via the ballot box. Unless anything changes between now and then.

Of course I am assuming that they will actually have a choice at that time. It is possible that they won't.

williamp

20,291 posts

301 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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having been to Bath several times, the residents do seem to be a bit...happy clappy? so the majority probably would support it. And traffic is bad anyhow, can you really do more then that at most times?

ExChrispy Porker

17,668 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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It's something in the water. I worked in Bath for 15 years, and I can categorically state that there are more nutters per square inch there than anywhere else I ever worked.
This does not make it a bad place. Far from it, I loved the place, but there are some very peculiar people around.

HarveyM

154 posts

201 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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The council well and truly screwed up the traffic flow around the new Southgate shopping centre. The solution is to install another bus gate to stop cars from using one of the adjacent roads. On that basis, I'm not expecting a rational or successful outcome on the speed limits. Slowing the traffic with a 20mph limit is not tackling the root cause - too much traffic in the city centre to start with!

Mon Ami Mate

Original Poster:

6,589 posts

296 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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Mole at the meeting tells me they have agreed to set up 20mph limits on rural nsl roads outside the city.

Iain XR4i

1,703 posts

180 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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Somewhere still voting Lib Dem. How quaint!

West Lothian Council cut most, if not all, of their NSL single carriageways to 50mph a few years ago. Cameras appeared too. Money-raiser anyone?

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

259 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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Given the man is a complete idiot, and stuck in post with no experience, it's possible he is not supported wholly by his department.

Perhaps your mole might like to enquire a little, and see if the signs department could suggest that the signage resembles this, with the number changed? biggrin


defblade

8,027 posts

241 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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Mon Ami Mate said:
From the link:

Chris Jenkins has tweeted: "Where in Bath is it possible to actually drive more than 20mph?"

:which is pretty much what went through my head, and I left bath in 1993 so I can't imagine it's any better now....

HarveyM

154 posts

201 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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Many drivers hit 30+ mph when the lights turn amber!

Traffic is often very bad, but away from the city centre queues there's plenty of opportunity to drive at a decent speed.

davepoth

29,395 posts

227 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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Mon Ami Mate said:
Mole at the meeting tells me they have agreed to set up 20mph limits on rural nsl roads outside the city.
That'll be to ruin all of the rat runs that have been caused by the stupid "improvements" the council have made on our main roads.